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On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 01:10:17PM +0000, Domagoj Bazina wrote:

I have question about freeipa-client, that packages was available as apt-package in Debian 10, also it can be found in Sid option, https://pkgs.org/search/?q=freeipa-client.

Freeipa was removed from Debian 11 due to a long-standing
release-cricital bug, #970880.

This package is not available in Debian 11 distribution, and version from older Debian 10 can't be installed. Is there any replacement for this package, or are there any plans for implementation of that package in Debian 11?

Packages that didn't make it into a release before the release won't
make it back into the release after the release. There might be a
possibility via a backport, but for this to happen, freeipa would need
to return to testing first.

#970880 has not seen action in half a year, so I'd not hold my breath
waiting for a backport to appear.

*I've also tried option with adding contribution repository. (apt-get install software-properties-common apt-add-repository contrib)

This is a totally not helping action. Please consider reading a few
Debian docs.

Greetings
Marc

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On 3.9.2021 19.02, Marc Haber wrote:

On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 01:10:17PM +0000, Domagoj Bazina wrote:

This package is not available in Debian 11 distribution, and version from older Debian 10 can't be installed. Is there any replacement for this package, or are there any plans for implementation of that package in Debian 11?

Packages that didn't make it into a release before the release won't
make it back into the release after the release. There might be a
possibility via a backport, but for this to happen, freeipa would need
to return to testing first.

My plan was to backport a client-only package, like it was in Buster
(though not via backports). Is that not possible?


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On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 09:05:35 +0300, Timo Aaltonen <tjaalton@gmail.com>
wrote:

On 3.9.2021 19.02, Marc Haber wrote:

On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 01:10:17PM +0000, Domagoj Bazina wrote:

This package is not available in Debian 11 distribution, and version from older Debian 10 can't be installed. Is there any replacement for this package, or are there any plans for implementation of that package in Debian 11?

Packages that didn't make it into a release before the release won't
make it back into the release after the release. There might be a
possibility via a backport, but for this to happen, freeipa would need
to return to testing first.

My plan was to backport a client-only package, like it was in Buster
(though not via backports). Is that not possible?

You're of course free to roll your own, local package. It shold be
possible. Just don't expect any official movement in Debian stable,
testing or stable-backports until that RC bug is fixed or resolved in
some other way.

Greetings
Marc
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On 4.9.2021 11.58, Marc Haber wrote:

On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 09:05:35 +0300, Timo Aaltonen <tjaalton@gmail.com>
wrote:

On 3.9.2021 19.02, Marc Haber wrote:

On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 01:10:17PM +0000, Domagoj Bazina wrote:

This package is not available in Debian 11 distribution, and version from older Debian 10 can't be installed. Is there any replacement for this package, or are there any plans for implementation of that package in Debian 11?

Packages that didn't make it into a release before the release won't
make it back into the release after the release. There might be a
possibility via a backport, but for this to happen, freeipa would need
to return to testing first.

My plan was to backport a client-only package, like it was in Buster
(though not via backports). Is that not possible?

You're of course free to roll your own, local package. It shold be
possible. Just don't expect any official movement in Debian stable,
testing or stable-backports until that RC bug is fixed or resolved in
some other way.

Why? The bug is about the server, doesn't involve the client in any way
(other than they're built from the same source)...


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On Sat, 04 Sep 2021 at 17:02:50 +0300, Timo Aaltonen wrote:

On 4.9.2021 11.58, Marc Haber wrote:

You're of course free to roll your own, local package. It shold be possible. Just don't expect any official movement in Debian stable,
testing or stable-backports until that RC bug is fixed or resolved in
some other way.

Why? The bug is about the server, doesn't involve the client in any way (other than they're built from the same source)...

At the risk of stating the obvious: testing migration, release-critical
bug monitoring, removals from testing, removals from unstable, etc. all
operate at the level of source packages, not binary packages. A source
package is either suitable for inclusion in stable or it isn't; it is
not possible to include half a source package in stable.

If the client is useful and usable, but the server is RC-buggy, one
possible route would be to stop building the server-related binary
packages until they can be fixed, so that every remaining binary package
is non-RC-buggy.

smcv

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Simon McVittie kirjoitti 4.9.2021 klo 19.44:

On Sat, 04 Sep 2021 at 17:02:50 +0300, Timo Aaltonen wrote:

On 4.9.2021 11.58, Marc Haber wrote:

You're of course free to roll your own, local package. It shold be
possible. Just don't expect any official movement in Debian stable,
testing or stable-backports until that RC bug is fixed or resolved in
some other way.

Why? The bug is about the server, doesn't involve the client in any way
(other than they're built from the same source)...

At the risk of stating the obvious: testing migration, release-critical
bug monitoring, removals from testing, removals from unstable, etc. all operate at the level of source packages, not binary packages. A source package is either suitable for inclusion in stable or it isn't; it is
not possible to include half a source package in stable.

If the client is useful and usable, but the server is RC-buggy, one
possible route would be to stop building the server-related binary
packages until they can be fixed, so that every remaining binary package
is non-RC-buggy.

Yes, that's what I did before, kept the full build in experimental and
only client in sid etc. But that's a pain to keep in sync and get tested
etc.. What I'd backport is not the exact version of what's in sid,
instead the server build would be disabled.

If that's not possible then maybe I'll postpone the backport until the
server works again... however long that'll take.


t

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