If you don't know enough about the situation to comment about the transphobia, then you should also refrain from comment about the tone.
On 6/24/24 6:59 AM, Alexandru Mihail wrote:Debian
will not be attending Debcamp/Debconf at all this year last week of
July/first week of August as I am tired of drama in the Debian community >> right now and sledge was being an asshole and banned me from OFTC for a
month like the transphobic pig he is, however will be attending as an
online visitor at GUADEC 2024 in mid-July and resume my engagement in
GNOME after this will also participate Online at Fedora's conference in
the second week of August (but have no energy to fly to them on site this >> year in the USA) will however help at the openSUSE conference in Germany >> in 1 week and go to the guy in England in August, but 3-30th July I will >> be at home in Sweden and chill
Let's keep the discussion civil shall we ? You're sending mail to the
devel list which is read and parsed by many, many people and bots in a plethora of environments. This is not the right place for profanity. Take care
On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 12:18:56PM +0200, somebody *claiming* to be Luna Jernberg wrote:
<junk elided>
Just to be 100% clear, that mail didn't come from Luna's normal gmail
account but was instead spoofed and sent via emkei.cz, a "free online
fake mailer". It's now blocked from Debian lists.
On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 12:32:59PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 12:18:56PM +0200, somebody *claiming* to be Luna Jernberg wrote:
<junk elided>
Just to be 100% clear, that mail didn't come from Luna's normal gmail account but was instead spoofed and sent via emkei.cz, a "free online
fake mailer". It's now blocked from Debian lists.
If what you're saying is correct (based on headers that make sense), it's a bit
concerning since someone is launching targeted spoofing attacks with the name of actual Debian contributors.
The style of writing mail - everything in one line, CCing several lists is similar to how Luna writes it too. Freaky.
Perhaps our policies need to evolve to expect (or require?)
cryptographic signatures from DDs in mailing list discussion. We may eventually reach a point where AI can fabricate those as well, but that
seems to not be possible yet.
The style of writing mail - everything in one line, CCing several lists is similar to how Luna writes it too. Freaky.
AI can already generate audio and video that convincingly imitate real people. Why not the same with email? Though, the implications are rather serious.
Perhaps our policies need to evolve to expect (or require?)
cryptographic signatures from DDs in mailing list discussion.
On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 08:39:51AM +0530, Nilesh Patra wrote:
On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 12:32:59PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 12:18:56PM +0200, somebody *claiming* to be Luna Jernberg wrote:
<junk elided>
Just to be 100% clear, that mail didn't come from Luna's normal gmail account but was instead spoofed and sent via emkei.cz, a "free online fake mailer". It's now blocked from Debian lists.
If what you're saying is correct (based on headers that make sense), it's a bit
concerning since someone is launching targeted spoofing attacks with the name
of actual Debian contributors.
The style of writing mail - everything in one line, CCing several lists is similar to how Luna writes it too. Freaky.
AI can already generate audio and video that convincingly imitate real people. Why not the same with email? Though, the implications are rather serious.
Perhaps our policies need to evolve to expect (or require?)
cryptographic signatures from DDs in mailing list discussion. We may eventually reach a point where AI can fabricate those as well, but that
seems to not be possible yet.
Roberto C. Sánchez dijo [Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 06:14:54AM -0400]:
On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 08:39:51AM +0530, Nilesh Patra wrote:
On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 12:32:59PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 12:18:56PM +0200, somebody *claiming* to be Luna Jernberg wrote:
<junk elided>
Just to be 100% clear, that mail didn't come from Luna's normal gmail account but was instead spoofed and sent via emkei.cz, a "free online fake mailer". It's now blocked from Debian lists.
If what you're saying is correct (based on headers that make sense), it's a bit
concerning since someone is launching targeted spoofing attacks with the name
of actual Debian contributors.
The style of writing mail - everything in one line, CCing several lists is
similar to how Luna writes it too. Freaky.
Sadly, we do have our resident, established, well-known favorite
troll. And the project has quite recently made an announcement
involving him:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-news/2024/msg00000.html
So, given no evidence otherwise, I point my finger to said troll's
general direction.
AI can already generate audio and video that convincingly imitate real people. Why not the same with email? Though, the implications are rather serious.
Perhaps our policies need to evolve to expect (or require?)
cryptographic signatures from DDs in mailing list discussion. We may eventually reach a point where AI can fabricate those as well, but that seems to not be possible yet.
This time around we don't need to overcomplicate things given we know
it is his establihed pattern to come up with false identities trying
to smear sh*t on DD's noses.
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