Hello,

I have just uploaded
* base-files
* bash
* dash
* glibc
* util-linux
to unstable. These were the last remaining packages shipping aliased
files inside the package set relevant to debootstrap.

Once any of these packages has been built until the last of these has
been built, debootstrap (and other implementations) will fail to work.
I performed these uploads simultaneously to keep the disruptance
minimal. While the changes are already part of Ubuntu noble and I have extensively tested them locally, I cannot entirely rule out mistakes and
will handle them in the next days. If you spot problems that look
related to these uploads, please X-Debbugs-Cc me in your bug reports or
contact me on IRC (e.g. #debian-usrmerge).

For trixie, there currently are migration blocks to prevent partial
migration of these changes. The release team will lift them once we are satisfied with the situation in unstable such that the time where debootstrapping trixie also is minimized.

Thanks for bearing with me and also thanks to all the people (release
team and affected package maintainers in particular) who support this
work.

Helmut

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Hi Helmut,

Quoting Helmut Grohne (2024-06-06 09:28:52)

I have just uploaded
* base-files
* bash
* dash
* glibc
* util-linux
to unstable. These were the last remaining packages shipping aliased
files inside the package set relevant to debootstrap.

thank you (and freexian for funding you) sooooo much for finally reaching this milestone!! Thank you also for doing all your work with incredible diligence and attention to detail. This is really outstanding and what I consider to be a model for how changes in Debian should be performed.

Your upload timing seems to have been great: the buildds seem to already have gone through most of what you uploaded.

I cannot wait for the next dinstall in ~5 hours to test what you uploaded with the mmdebstrap test suite (which is also testing debootstrap).

Too bad that it is just these days that snapshot.d.o is moving to the new infrastructure (a big thanks to the team who is working on that) which means that this crucial transition in unstable will not be part of snapshot.debian.org. There are no timestamps recorded for June yet.

Thanks!

cheers, josch
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On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 at 10:02, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> wrote:

Hi Helmut,

Quoting Helmut Grohne (2024-06-06 09:28:52)

I have just uploaded
* base-files
* bash
* dash
* glibc
* util-linux
to unstable. These were the last remaining packages shipping aliased
files inside the package set relevant to debootstrap.

thank you (and freexian for funding you) sooooo much for finally reaching this
milestone!! Thank you also for doing all your work with incredible diligence and attention to detail. This is really outstanding and what I consider to be a
model for how changes in Debian should be performed.

Your upload timing seems to have been great: the buildds seem to already have gone through most of what you uploaded.

I cannot wait for the next dinstall in ~5 hours to test what you uploaded with
the mmdebstrap test suite (which is also testing debootstrap).

Too bad that it is just these days that snapshot.d.o is moving to the new infrastructure (a big thanks to the team who is working on that) which means that this crucial transition in unstable will not be part of snapshot.debian.org. There are no timestamps recorded for June yet.

+1 thank you Helmut, excellent work!

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On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 09:28:52 +0200, Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de>
wrote:

Thanks for bearing with me and also thanks to all the people (release
team and affected package maintainers in particular) who support this
work.

Thank you for doing this work. I have rarely seen a change of this
magnitude in Debian that was managed on this professional level. I
especially praise the way you have communicated the progress.

Greetings
Marc
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Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> writes:

Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> wrote:

Thanks for bearing with me and also thanks to all the people (release
team and affected package maintainers in particular) who support this
work.

Thank you for doing this work. I have rarely seen a change of this
magnitude in Debian that was managed on this professional level. I
especially praise the way you have communicated the progress.

100% agreed. The care and excellence that you've brought to this work has
been exceptional.

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Helmut Grohne dijo [Thu, Jun 06, 2024 at 09:28:52AM +0200]:

Hello,

I have just uploaded
* base-files
* bash
* dash
* glibc
* util-linux
to unstable. These were the last remaining packages shipping aliased
files inside the package set relevant to debootstrap.
(...)
Thanks for bearing with me and also thanks to all the people (release
team and affected package maintainers in particular) who support this
work.

Helmut

Let me chime in with all of the people that have been amazed at your
depth of analysis and your commitment to implementing the *properly
right* situation. It cannot be overstressed that, for this release
cycle, one of the main reasons Debian will probably keep its honor
badge of being easy and reliable to upgrade without breakage is the
work you have taken as yours.

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Hi Helmut,

Russ Allbery, on 2024-06-06:

Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> writes:

Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> wrote:

Thanks for bearing with me and also thanks to all the people (release
team and affected package maintainers in particular) who support this
work.

Thank you for doing this work. I have rarely seen a change of this magnitude in Debian that was managed on this professional level. I especially praise the way you have communicated the progress.

100% agreed. The care and excellence that you've brought to this work has been exceptional.

Very much seconded, you have my thanks added on the stack! :)

Have a nice day, :)
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Hello,

On Thu 06 Jun 2024 at 11:25am -06, Gunnar Wolf wrote:

Let me chime in with all of the people that have been amazed at your
depth of analysis and your commitment to implementing the *properly
right* situation. It cannot be overstressed that, for this release
cycle, one of the main reasons Debian will probably keep its honor
badge of being easy and reliable to upgrade without breakage is the
work you have taken as yours.

This is a great way to put it.

Helmut's dedication to this was particularly clear from working with him
on it from the TC side. We have benefitted repeatedly from his careful analysis.

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Am Thu, Jun 06, 2024 at 08:14:18PM +0200 schrieb Étienne Mollier:

100% agreed. The care and excellence that you've brought to this work has been exceptional.

Very much seconded, you have my thanks added on the stack! :)

Seconded as well. You deserve a $DRINK / some sweets once we meet next
time (no matter whether I might wear my DPL hat at hat time any more).
;-)

Kind regards
Andreas.

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