(posting this to debian-devel@ since debian-ports@ cross-posts to too many lists)

Hello Rene!

On 1/10/23 19:25, Rene Engelhard wrote:

(which are for many BD-Uninstallable since ages because it does not have Java (anymore), didn't do a long-ago transition, ...)

They all have Java support except for hppa, see:

https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=openjdk-11&suite=sid https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=openjdk-18&suite=sid

The reason for being BD-Uninstallable is the lack of cruft in Debian Ports:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2017/12/msg00060.html

as a result of some packages FTBFS.

So, it's more a Debian Ports problem than an architecture problem.

Also, both alpha and ia64 are BD-Uninstallable because you don't want to drop clang from Build-Depends from these architectures for whatever reason despite these not having had a LLVM/clang port for several years:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=963109

If clang could be dropped from Build-Depends for alpha and ia64, that would already
help us move a little further.

speak up at upstream or they will be gone. And without those bridges no architecture support for it.

I will see what I can do.

Thanks,
Adrian

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Hi,

Am 10.01.23 um 19:44 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz:

On 1/10/23 19:25, Rene Engelhard wrote:

(which are for many BD-Uninstallable since ages because it does not
have Java (anymore), didn't do a long-ago transition, ...)

They all have Java support except for hppa, see:

I was indeed aiming at hppa here.

Misses libnumbertext and that one has a Java component and thus we get

libnumbertext build-depends on:
- default-jdk:hppa
default-jdk depends on:
- default-jre:hppa (= 2:1.5-72)
default-jre depends on:
- default-jre-headless:hppa (= 2:1.5-72)
default-jre-headless depends on missing:
- openjdk-5-jre-headless:hppa

The reason for being BD-Uninstallable is the lack of cruft in Debian
Ports:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2017/12/msg00060.html

as a result of some packages FTBFS.

That is for sparc and m68k? (Where both the needed KDE packages are uninstallable)


Regards,


Rene

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On 1/10/23 19:54, Rene Engelhard wrote:

Hi,

Am 10.01.23 um 19:44 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz:

On 1/10/23 19:25, Rene Engelhard wrote:

(which are for many BD-Uninstallable since ages because it does not have Java (anymore), didn't do a long-ago transition, ...)

They all have Java support except for hppa, see:

I was indeed aiming at hppa here.

Misses libnumbertext and that one has a Java component and thus we get

libnumbertext build-depends on:
- default-jdk:hppa
default-jdk depends on:
- default-jre:hppa (= 2:1.5-72)
default-jre depends on:
- default-jre-headless:hppa (= 2:1.5-72)
default-jre-headless depends on missing:
- openjdk-5-jre-headless:hppa

Yes, sadly we don't have a working java right now on hppa, and it will
probably take some more time to get one. At least I won't have time
for it during the next few months.
But it would be sad to loose those bindings...

The reason for being BD-Uninstallable is the lack of cruft in Debian Ports: >>

https://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2017/12/msg00060.html

as a result of some packages FTBFS.

That is for sparc and m68k? (Where both the needed KDE packages are uninstallable)

Adrian, as there seems to be various arches (and reasons) will you speak upstream?

Helge

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Hi Helge!

On 1/11/23 15:03, Helge Deller wrote:

Yes, sadly we don't have a working java right now on hppa, and it will probably take some more time to get one. At least I won't have time
for it during the next few months.
But it would be sad to loose those bindings...

There are some efforts to bring back gcj if that helps:

https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2023-January/609530.html

The reason for being BD-Uninstallable is the lack of cruft in Debian Ports: >>>

https://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2017/12/msg00060.html

as a result of some packages FTBFS.

That is for sparc and m68k? (Where both the needed KDE packages are uninstallable)

Adrian, as there seems to be various arches (and reasons) will you speak upstream?

Yes, I have already replied upstream. I will follow up there tonight.

One of the biggest problems for Debian Ports remains the lack of cruft as explained
in my post to the debian-sparc mailing list above. This causes these long BD-Uninstallable
queues.

Adrian

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Hi,

Am 11.01.23 um 15:20 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz:

Hi Helge!

On 1/11/23 15:03, Helge Deller wrote:

Yes, sadly we don't have a working java right now on hppa, and it will
probably take some more time to get one. At least I won't have time
for it during the next few months.
But it would be sad to loose those bindings...

There are some efforts to bring back gcj if that helps:

https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2023-January/609530.html

https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=7fe8c0b852fa421fe52de99a7f59e45027139eed

That would need  to be reinstated if that ever becomes a thing.


Regards,


Rene

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