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Hi Osamu,

Prior to the LXD/Incus hard fork, I did have an ITP to look at
packaging lxd-ui (#1036926). I think the "proper" way to package Incus
UI would be to have it as a new package (incus-ui), which incus
packaging could then Recommend or Suggest.

I would also be more comfortable with Incus UI it was a proper fork
of Canonical's repository that carried the seven patches from
zabbly/incus. As a packager, we shouldn't be taking one upstream and
totally transforming it into something else via patches since that's
just too much work to carry in our packaging. :)

My suggestion would be to rework this bug into a RFP and/or merge
with the prior ITP. I don't have any plans to work on this, but someone
else might.

Mathias

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Hi,

When I initially start writing this wishlist bug report, I was expecting existence of one upstream source tree. The more I checked situation around incus-ui, I concur with your thought and see more challenges for packaging.

Although I have no idea for typescript nor node, I realize that, though the building lxd-ui was trivial task on my local Debian machine, it is a non-trivial
task for Debian packaging unless I dare to package many node packages.

I found 2 references for existing packaging efforts (ARCH and SPEC for some RPM)
* https://gist.github.com/vaxvhbe/ce679df15fc521c8aca1ff9ddf537201 SPEC
* https://github.com/KosmX/incus-ui-canonical-arch/blob/master/PKGBUILD ARCH

So I tried on my local machine to build unmodified source as a starter:

$ sudo apt install yarnpkg npm
$ git clone https://github.com/canonical/lxd-ui.git
$ cd lxd-ui
$ yarn install
$ yarn build

Then I easily had a static web page with javascript to serve at
build/ui/

I realize zabby's patches to make Incus UI were applied to the upstream LXD-UI source, so it wasn't as brute force changes as I was afraid of. But, as I checked in the build tree under node-modules/, there are too many packages (~600) involved. This means there is a heavy burden of creating an official deb
package since all these packages need to be packaged in advance for Debian to satisfy the Debian build requirement. Then, on the top of it, there is an issue
of maintaining patches as you mentioned.

If I will file a RFP, I should do it as a fresh one to get the best exposure (instead of retitle ITP or this bug report.)

Let me record few references I found.

Debian
* https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1067041 this wishlist bug
* https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1036926 closed ITP lxd-ui

Upstream message around web-ui
* https://stgraber.org/2023/11/25/adding-a-web-ui-to-the-incus-demo-service/
* https://discuss.linuxcontainers.org/t/web-ui-for-incus/18198/2
* https://discuss.linuxcontainers.org/t/incus-web-ui-spacing/18928
* https://discuss.linuxcontainers.org/t/lxconsole-as-web-ui/19212
* https://discuss.linuxcontainers.org/t/stateful-uis-and-questions-about-lxd-ui-history/18302

Incus upstream doesn't wish to spend his time on this web page generation and maintenance and provided proof-of-concept example by rebranding lxd-ui

Incus UI is a single-page application written in TypeScript and React and only replicates what you can do with the incus CLI program (i.e. works through the REST API).

Other UI -- all needs external dependencies
* https://github.com/PenningLabs/lxconsole (PYTHON)
* https://github.com/AdaptiveScale/lxdui (PYTHON)
* https://github.com/turtle0x1/LxdMosaic (JS with SQL)
* https://github.com/lxdware/lxd-dashboard (PHP)

Quoting Incus upstream:
Those more complex web interfaces will typically come with their own set of instructions on how to properly deploy them, what OS they support to run their daemon and database, how to setup the database for high-availability when in a cluster environment, how to perform backups of that data, …

--- none of these seem to be good replacements of Incus UI(rebranded lxd-ui).

Regards,

Osamu

On Sun, 2024-03-17 at 22:40 +0000, Mathias Gibbens wrote:

Hi Osamu,

  Prior to the LXD/Incus hard fork, I did have an ITP to look at
packaging lxd-ui (#1036926). I think the "proper" way to package Incus
UI would be to have it as a new package (incus-ui), which incus
packaging could then Recommend or Suggest.

  I would also be more comfortable with Incus UI it was a proper fork
of Canonical's repository that carried the seven patches from
zabbly/incus. As a packager, we shouldn't be taking one upstream and totally transforming it into something else via patches since that's
just too much work to carry in our packaging. :)

  My suggestion would be to rework this bug into a RFP and/or merge
with the prior ITP. I don't have any plans to work on this, but someone else might.

Mathias

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Hi,

I actually made a hackish binary package for "Incus UI".

https://github.com/osamuaoki/incus-ui-canonical

At least, this is more compatible with official Debian package. (I know this is
not ready for Debian upload at all.)

I realize that the current Debian package doesn't seem to set INCUS_UI.

Do you plan to set it to `/var/lib/incus/ui`? I think that is better place to put web page for distribution if it ever happens.

Or should I need to set it through `/etc/environment`?

I think someone with interest and good skill on typescript and node needs to work on this to make real debian package.

Osamu

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Control: block 1067041 by 1067132

On Tue, 2024-03-19 at 15:47 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:

I realize that the current Debian package doesn't seem to set INCUS_UI.

Do you plan to set it to `/var/lib/incus/ui`?  I think that is better place to
put web page for distribution if it ever happens.

For right now, I don't think I want to set a default INCUS_UI
environment variable, as there isn't any corresponding packaging in
Debian that would populate such a path. Better to let individuals set
it themselves if they wish to manually make a web-based UI available.
But I'd be happy to add that default along with a Recommends or
Suggests when Incus UI is packaged and ready for upload into the
archive.

I think someone with interest and good skill on typescript and node needs to work on this to make real debian package.

I'm blocking this bug by the RFP; thanks for filing it. Down the road
if/when someone does the packaging work, please let me know of any
progress that's made.

Mathias

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