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On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 11:13:05AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:

Package: upgrade-reports
Severity: critical
Justification: makes upgrade from stable abort

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Hi,

Regression spotted by Pere in some debian-edu job, but also seen since
the 2nd of June in normal gnome chroot installation then upgrade from
jessie to stretch:
https://jenkins.debian.net/view/edu_devel/job/chroot-installation_jessie_install_education-desktop-gnome_upgrade_to_stretch/
https://jenkins.debian.net/job/chroot-installation_jessie_install_gnome_upgrade_to_stretch/

I've managed to reproduce it locally with basically a debootstrap of
jessie, installation of gnome, then switch sources.list from jessie to stretch, then update & upgrade & dist-upgrade.

I've bisected the archive using snapshot.debian.org and found out:
- 20170601T212625Z = last timestamp found to be OK;
- 20170602T033358Z = first timestamp to be KO.

For what it is worth, according to <http://debian.semistable.com/unstable_diffs.txt>
a circular dependency between ca-certificates-java and
openjdk-8-jre-headless has been added on Thu Jun 1 01:02:00 CEST 2017

Cheers,
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On 2017-06-15 15:16, Cyril Brulebois wrote:

Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> (2017-06-15):

It sounds like openjdk-8 added two Breaks recently, one or both of
which are causing trouble, and none of which fix anything as bad as
this. So I think we should remove the Breaks on tzdata-java from
openjdk-8-jdk-headless, and remove the Breaks on ca-certificates-java
from openjdk-8-jre-headless. Would that fix the current issue?

What I had tested was reverting the recent ca-certificates-java change,
i.e. switching the dependency on
openjdk-8-jre-headless | java7-runtime-headless
back to
openjdk-7-jre-headless | java7-runtime-headless
(or similar)
That change was made later than the one in openjdk-8 and it proved to be sufficient in my piuparts test to fix^Wnot activate that trigger cycle.


Andreas

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On 2017-06-15 10:02, Michael Biebl wrote:

Am 12.06.2017 um 20:33 schrieb Andreas Beckmann:

Switching desktop-file-utils or/and shared-mime-info to -noawait
triggers does not solve the problem.

So afaics there is nothing that can be done from the Debian GNOME team
side, right?

You could add a Breaks: tzdata-java to some library deep in the gnome
stack (so that it gets a high score from apt) ... that could serve as a workaround as well.


Andreas

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Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> (2017-06-15):

If you upload a NMU could you please push the changes to the Git
repository?

I'll look into this when I've slept a bit. Reminders/prods welcome.


KiBi.

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On Thu, 15 Jun 2017 20:31:00 +0000, Niels Thykier wrote:

Basically, jessie's verison of desktop-file-utils and shared-mime-info
have "-await" triggers (implicit) which will push other packages into a "TRIGGER_PENDING" state.
Once they are in that state, the "damage" is done and those other
packages will no longer satisfy dependencies until the trigger has been processed. Notably, dpkg is unable to /undo/ this state even if the
trigger changes from -await to -noawait during the upgrade.

* If this holds, then changing the desktop-file-utils and
shared-mime-info triggers *in stable* to -noawait should make the
problem go away.

* I realise it is unfeasible to implement in Debian by Saturday, but
it would help us understand the root cause of the problem.
- Tests to confirm/disprove this would be very welcome.

I think I can't confirm this theory. What I did:

A) Round 1: reproduce the problem:

1) enter a jessie cowbuilder chroot
2) rm /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/15pbuilder # which turns off installing recommends
3) apt-get install task-gnome-desktop
4) sed -i -e 's/jessie/stretch/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
5) apt-get update
6) apt-get upgrade
7) apt-get dist-upgrade

Result:

(Reading database ... 132342 files and directories currently installed.) Removing openjdk-7-jre:amd64 (7u111-2.6.7-1~deb8u1) ...
Removing openjdk-7-jre-headless:amd64 (7u111-2.6.7-1~deb8u1) ...
Removing tzdata-java (2017b-0+deb8u1) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.15-1) ...
dpkg: cycle found while processing triggers:
chain of packages whose triggers are or may be responsible:
gnome-menus -> desktop-file-utils
packages' pending triggers which are or may be unresolvable:
gnome-menus: /usr/share/applications
shared-mime-info: /usr/share/mime/packages
desktop-file-utils: /usr/share/applications
mime-support: /usr/share/applications
dpkg: error processing package gnome-menus (--remove):
triggers looping, abandoned
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.23-1) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.60) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
gnome-menus
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


B) Round 2: play with triggers:

Same as above, except that after 3) I did

3a) sed -i -e 's/interest /interest-noawait /' /var/lib/dpkg/info/{desktop-file-utils,shared-mime-info}.triggers

and after 6) I again ran

6a) sed -i -e 's/interest /interest-noawait /' /var/lib/dpkg/info/{desktop-file-utils,shared-mime-info}.triggers


Result:

(Reading database ... 132342 files and directories currently installed.) Removing openjdk-7-jre:amd64 (7u111-2.6.7-1~deb8u1) ...
Removing openjdk-7-jre-headless:amd64 (7u111-2.6.7-1~deb8u1) ...
Removing tzdata-java (2017b-0+deb8u1) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.15-1) ...
dpkg: cycle found while processing triggers:
chain of packages whose triggers are or may be responsible:
gnome-menus -> desktop-file-utils
packages' pending triggers which are or may be unresolvable:
gnome-menus: /usr/share/applications
shared-mime-info: /usr/share/mime/packages
desktop-file-utils: /usr/share/applications
mime-support: /usr/share/applications
dpkg: error processing package gnome-menus (--remove):
triggers looping, abandoned
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.23-1) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.60) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
gnome-menus
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

# for p in desktop-file-utils shared-mime-info gnome-menus mime-support ; do echo $p:; cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/$p.triggers; done
desktop-file-utils:
interest-noawait /usr/share/applications
shared-mime-info:
interest-noawait /usr/share/mime/packages
gnome-menus:
interest-noawait /usr/share/applications
interest-noawait gmenucache
mime-support:
interest-noawait /usr/lib/mime/packages
interest-noawait /usr/share/applications


Cheers,
gregor

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On 2017-06-16 03:34, gregor herrmann wrote:

(Reading database ... 132342 files and directories currently installed.) Removing openjdk-7-jre:amd64 (7u111-2.6.7-1~deb8u1) ...
Removing openjdk-7-jre-headless:amd64 (7u111-2.6.7-1~deb8u1) ...
Removing tzdata-java (2017b-0+deb8u1) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.15-1) ...
dpkg: cycle found while processing triggers:
chain of packages whose triggers are or may be responsible:
gnome-menus -> desktop-file-utils
packages' pending triggers which are or may be unresolvable:
gnome-menus: /usr/share/applications
shared-mime-info: /usr/share/mime/packages
desktop-file-utils: /usr/share/applications
mime-support: /usr/share/applications
dpkg: error processing package gnome-menus (--remove):
triggers looping, abandoned
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.23-1) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.60) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
gnome-menus
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

It might well be that I again did something wrong. OTOH, this seems to
match what anbe wrote of his similar tests some minutes ago.

It was easier than I thought to do this with piuparts, and I can confirm gregors test result with "real packages".
Full log, including dpkg trigger debug info: https://people.debian.org/~anbe/864597/tgd.101-dfu89-smi89.log

it used for jessie:
desktop-file-utils_0.22-1+deb8noawait_amd64.deb
shared-mime-info_1.3-1+deb8noawait_amd64.deb
and for stretch:
desktop-file-utils_0.23-1+test_amd64.deb
shared-mime-info_1.8-1+test_amd64.deb
(all with s/interest/interest-noawait/ in debian/triggers)

Andreas

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Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org> (2017-06-16):

So, I didn't try to reproduce the error first, and went directly for
a hunch. I followed your recipe, but in steps 3* and 6* I also amended hicolor-icon-theme. And that seemed to fix the upgrade. Take into
account I've not had the time to analyze the dependency chain, nor if
my initial setup (not using cowbuilder, etc) matches, so maybe this is
an error in procedure. If someone else can reproduce, that'd be helpful, otherwise I might retry tomorrow.

If this does fix it, it might be helpful also to try just amending the triggers in the stretch "mock", instead of in the jessie one, to see if
such a fixed package would be enough.

I guess it would make sense to try and find out various sets of packages
to install in jessie that make one run into the triggers loop while
upgrading, then make sure that updating the 3 packages in jessie+stretch
(with the interest→interest-noawait update) indeed resolve all loops.

If we have some confirmation on this side, we might then proceed to
updating them through oldstable-p-u and stable-p-u?


Independently, I think we really need to have something in the release
notes; not about openjdk-7 at all, but about what to do to fix or work
around such a triggers loop when one runs into it. Triggering one with a
basic gnome dist-upgrade was probably some kind of luck, but I suspect
there are some/many other ways to run into similar issues…


KiBi.

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On 2017-06-16 18:34, gregor herrmann wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 06:18:18 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:

So, I didn't try to reproduce the error first, and went directly for
a hunch. I followed your recipe, but in steps 3* and 6* I also amended
hicolor-icon-theme. And that seemed to fix the upgrade. Take into

If this does fix it, it might be helpful also to try just amending the
triggers in the stretch "mock", instead of in the jessie one, to see if
such a fixed package would be enough.

Ok, so let's do this again, this time with a local repo added which
contains ca-certificates-java 20170531+nmu2 (just 20170531 but with a
higher version). (Side note: ca-certificates-java gets already
updated in 6, i.e. in "upgrade", before the "dist-upgrade".)

Option 1, with 3a/b: The dist-upgrade fails with the well-known
error:

I could confirm this with piuparts, i.e. making hicolor-icon-theme
noawait (in stretch or stretch+jessie) as well does not change the game.
Full logs with dpkg trigger debug output available, if someone is
interested.

Another observation I made is that dpkg was already upgraded during the 'apt-get upgrade' phase, so the dpkg reporting the trigger cycle is the
one from stretch. Improving debug output there or making trigger related
fixed should be possible.


Andreas

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Cyril Brulebois:

Niels Thykier <niels@thykier.net> (2017-06-15):

Guillem and I have been talking about this over IRC and have a theory.

Basically, jessie's verison of desktop-file-utils and shared-mime-info
have "-await" triggers (implicit) which will push other packages into a
"TRIGGER_PENDING" state.
Once they are in that state, the "damage" is done and those other
packages will no longer satisfy dependencies until the trigger has been
processed. Notably, dpkg is unable to /undo/ this state even if the
trigger changes from -await to -noawait during the upgrade.

* If this holds, then changing the desktop-file-utils and
shared-mime-info triggers *in stable* to -noawait should make the
problem go away.

* I realise it is unfeasible to implement in Debian by Saturday, but
it would help us understand the root cause of the problem.
- Tests to confirm/disprove this would be very welcome.

I can run tests but how is this going to help with a release on saturday?

Hi,

@KiBi: Thanks for correcting me below. :)
@All: For testing the theory.

Re the question above: It would not help on Saturday, but we are doomed
to repeat this problem again if we do not find and fix it at its root.

[....]

The user would explicitly have to install Java 8 and then uninstall the
now unsupported Java 7 - that seems very unhelpful to me.

Nope. From the gnome upgrade log with ca-certificates-java “fixed”:
| Removing openjdk-7-jre:amd64 (7u111-2.6.7-1~deb8u1) ...
| …
| Removing openjdk-7-jre-headless:amd64 (7u111-2.6.7-1~deb8u1) ...
| …
| Setting up openjdk-8-jre-headless:amd64 (8u131-b11-2) ...
| …
| Setting up default-jre-headless (2:1.8-58) ...
| …
| Setting up openjdk-8-jre:amd64 (8u131-b11-2) ...
| …
| Setting up default-jre (2:1.8-58) ...

While I can't say for sure my ca-certificates-java upload will fix all upgrade paths, I'm quite confident the current upgrade paths is utterly broken, and is very much less so afterwards, with no known downsides.

[...]

KiBi.

Given it does upgrade openjdk-8, then it does seem like a viable work
around for stretch. Ideally, we would also have this work if people
does not have default-jre, but I agree that we can do r0 without it.

* I will unblock and urgent ca-certificates-java/20170531+nmu1 now
- If you do further testing, please remember to "undo" this change
or your test case may magically be "fixed" for the wrong reason :)

* I will write a note in the release notes for the people who have
openjdk-7 without default-jre tonight.
- Feel free to beat me to it.

* For buster, I will do an archive-wide sweep for getting rid of
interest triggers. It won't help with "stretch -> buster", so
we need to discuss how to fix that (but that can happen after
r0).

Thanks,
~Niels

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