On 6/24/21 10:43 PM, John Watts wrote:

I have been using Debian since approximately 2005.

I have this equipment now:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 3600
Video card: Asus GeForce GT 1030
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H
Bios: American Megatrends EFI 2.70 B450MDSH.61c aka "f61c"
DMI: Gigabyte Technologies Ltd B450M DS3H/B450M DS3H-CF

The bios screens for this bios have an entry on the "peripherals" page
which has this: AMI Graphic Output Protocol Policy. Selecting that
has these lines:

GP 108 Board (86.08.36.00.21)
Nvidia GPU UEFI driver
Output select DFP1 (that's a "one")

The lines are informational and none offer any choices.

This machine will run the debian-10.8-amd64-netinst.iso through to completion. The resulting Buster installation *will boot* and run
without any issue whatever.

The machine will run the "firmware-testing-amd64-netinst.iso" through
to completion. The resulting Bullseye installation will *not boot*
(hanging shortly after starting). Using the extra boot options choice
on grub menu (single user mode) the detailed verbose boot sequence
indicates that the machine freezes on the statement:

fb: switching to nouveaufb from EFI VGA

Fortunately, the "firmware-testing" iso produces a functional grub menu
so I am able to reach the bios screens to recover.

I tried the minimal install and the desktop install using Gnome. Both
had the same result. In addition to the "firmware-testing" iso I have
tried several versions of the plain vanilla version of the testing netinst.iso, making attempts every few weeks since December 2020
(thinking that the issue would be fixed at some point). All attempts
to install bullseye end up with the freeze issue, but all attempts could successfully run the installer through to completion.

Does anyone familiar with bullseye construction know how to dodge this
issue? If it is not possible, what is the reason? At present it looks
like just about everyone running AMD Ryzen with supporting separate
video card will be stuck at the Buster level.

Hi John,

the problem could be with Nvidia driver (nouveau) if that is the case
then you can try to install proprietary Nvidia video driver.

Kind regards
Georgi

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I have been using Debian since approximately 2005.

I have this equipment now:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 3600
Video card: Asus GeForce GT 1030
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H
Bios: American Megatrends EFI 2.70 B450MDSH.61c aka "f61c"
DMI: Gigabyte Technologies Ltd B450M DS3H/B450M DS3H-CF

The bios screens for this bios have an entry on the "peripherals" page
which has this: AMI Graphic Output Protocol Policy. Selecting that
has these lines:

GP 108 Board (86.08.36.00.21)
Nvidia GPU UEFI driver
Output select DFP1 (that's a "one")

The lines are informational and none offer any choices.

This machine will run the debian-10.8-amd64-netinst.iso through to
completion. The resulting Buster installation *will boot* and run
without any issue whatever.

The machine will run the "firmware-testing-amd64-netinst.iso" through
to completion. The resulting Bullseye installation will *not boot*
(hanging shortly after starting). Using the extra boot options choice
on grub menu (single user mode) the detailed verbose boot sequence
indicates that the machine freezes on the statement:

fb: switching to nouveaufb from EFI VGA

Fortunately, the "firmware-testing" iso produces a functional grub menu
so I am able to reach the bios screens to recover.

I tried the minimal install and the desktop install using Gnome. Both
had the same result. In addition to the "firmware-testing" iso I have
tried several versions of the plain vanilla version of the testing
netinst.iso, making attempts every few weeks since December 2020
(thinking that the issue would be fixed at some point). All attempts
to install bullseye end up with the freeze issue, but all attempts could successfully run the installer through to completion.

Does anyone familiar with bullseye construction know how to dodge this
issue? If it is not possible, what is the reason? At present it looks
like just about everyone running AMD Ryzen with supporting separate
video card will be stuck at the Buster level.

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On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 23:06:25 +0300
Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> wrote:

Hi John,

the problem could be with Nvidia driver (nouveau) if that is the case
then you can try to install proprietary Nvidia video driver.

Kind regards
Georgi

Hi Georgi,

I can't get to that stage, the bullseye operating system won't boot. I
have been using nouveau in Buster and it works well enough for my
uses. So far, I think I have missed something or else there is a
problem in the "testing" netinst.iso at this point.

John

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John Watts composed on 2021-06-24 14:45 (UTC-0600):

I can't get to that stage, the bullseye operating system won't boot. I

For what definition of "won't boot"?

have been using nouveau in Buster and it works well enough for my
uses. So far, I think I have missed something or else there is a
problem in the "testing" netinst.iso at this point.

Did you try booting the fallback/rescue stanza or by appending nomodeset to the linu line in the default boot entry, and/or adding plymouth=0 there?

Did you try booting/installing something other than the demanding and finicky Gnome on Wayland?

Are you able to remote login?
--
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based on faith, not based on science.

Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata

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On 6/24/21 11:45 PM, John Watts wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 23:06:25 +0300
Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> wrote:

Hi John,

the problem could be with Nvidia driver (nouveau) if that is the case
then you can try to install proprietary Nvidia video driver.

Kind regards
Georgi

Hi Georgi,

I can't get to that stage, the bullseye operating system won't boot. I
have been using nouveau in Buster and it works well enough for my
uses. So far, I think I have missed something or else there is a
problem in the "testing" netinst.iso at this point.

Hi John,

use Debian installer in "Expert mode" and after installation of all
packages (including desktop environment) run a shell, it's a menu item.

Your new system will be located in /target folder so run

# chroot /target

and then mount /proc

# mount proc /proc -t proc

and then install Nvidia proprietary driver

# apt install nvidia-driver

After driver installation unmount proc file system

# umount /proc

and exit from the shell with double exit

# exit
# exit

After that select "Finish installation" menu item from the list.

Kind regards
Georgi

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