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    From Susmita/Rajib@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 25 14:10:01 2021
    My illustrious List Members and our Problem Solvers, Debian.org,

    This issue arose because of my need to bypass the non-accessible WiFi
    network through the native card on my HP laptop. The network strength
    is raed by network manager applet, but data can't be exchanged.

    Could you please suggest me an USB WiFi dongle that is recommended by
    Debian and available in India?
    https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USB_Devices
    and
    https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB

    Problem with Amazon is that the chipsets are not available with the
    product. How could I find a product that would have the listed
    chipset?

    I ordered these two products without any possibility for comparison
    with the said Debian Pages:

    (1)
    TP-Link USB WiFi Adapter for PC(TL-WN725N), N150 Wireless Network
    Adapter for Desktop - Nano Size WiFi Dongle Compatible with Windows 10/7/8/8.1/XP/ Mac OS 10.9-10.15 Linux Kernel 2.6.18-4.4.3

    This one identifies itself on the USB port as: 0bda:8179
    The full lsusb output:
    Bus 001 Device 010: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
    RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter

    (2)
    D-Link DWA-131 Wireless N Nano USB Adapter (Black)
    This one doesn't even register itself properly using lsusb.
    Says:
    Bus 001 Device 012: ID 2001:3319 D-Link Corp.
    This one was supposed to have been compatible by the seller (Amazon.in
    could with be searched with "B008IFXQFU" for the Product Id.)

    So could anyone inform me about a product based on his personal
    experience please?

    I find from the Debian page that the safest chipsets are as follows:
    carl9170 Atheros Communications AR9170 chipset
    prism2_usb Intersil Prism 2/2.5/3 chipsets
    rndis_wlan Broadcom BCM4320 chipset
    rt2500usb Ralink RT2500USB/RT2571 chipset
    rtl8187 Realtek chipsets (RTL8187, RTL8187B)

    Regards,
    Rajib

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  • From Susmita/Rajib@21:1/5 to bkpsusmitaa@gmail.com on Fri Mar 26 01:10:01 2021
    On 25/03/2021, Susmita/Rajib <bkpsusmitaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    I find from the Debian page that the safest chipsets are as follows:
    carl9170 Atheros Communications AR9170 chipset
    prism2_usb Intersil Prism 2/2.5/3 chipsets
    rndis_wlan Broadcom BCM4320 chipset
    rt2500usb Ralink RT2500USB/RT2571 chipset
    rtl8187 Realtek chipsets (RTL8187, RTL8187B)

    Have searched Amazon.in with each of these strings, but except this
    ones listed below, none sells in India. Could be searched with these
    DP:
    B0718V34FN
    B07TN941V1
    B07FVRKCZJ
    B004Y6MIXS (sells, very expensive by Indian standards)
    B00JESLUWQ

    Chin will ruin the world, it appears.

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  • From Adrian D'Costa@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 26 02:10:02 2021
    Respected user/s,

    Hi! You can try the following links and choose the best. Here's the link:


    https://www.amazon.in/TP-Link-TL-UE300-Gigabit-Ethernet-Network/dp/B00V4BGDKU/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Plugable+USB+to+Ethernet+Adapter%2C+USB+3.0+to+Gigabit+Ethernet%2C+Supports+Windows+10%2C+8.1%2C+7%2C+XP%2C+Linux%2C+Chrome+OS&qid=1616719788&
    sr=8-1

    https://www.flipkart.com/tp-link-ue300-ethernet-network-adapter-lan/p/itmegg7cbn9hq4mh



    How to setup usb 3.0 to ethernet network adapter on Debian.

    https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/386162/how-to-set-up-an-usb-ethernet-interface-in-linux





    My advice would be to choose usb 3.0.

    Usb3.0 is fully compatible with usb 2.0 and 1.0

    I hope I have solved your problem.

    Sincerely
    Adrian



    On Thu., Mar. 25, 2021, 9:09 a.m. Susmita/Rajib, <bkpsusmitaa@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    My illustrious List Members and our Problem Solvers, Debian.org,

    This issue arose because of my need to bypass the non-accessible WiFi
    network through the native card on my HP laptop. The network strength
    is raed by network manager applet, but data can't be exchanged.

    Could you please suggest me an USB WiFi dongle that is recommended by
    Debian and available in India?
    https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USB_Devices
    and
    https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB

    Problem with Amazon is that the chipsets are not available with the
    product. How could I find a product that would have the listed
    chipset?

    I ordered these two products without any possibility for comparison
    with the said Debian Pages:

    (1)
    TP-Link USB WiFi Adapter for PC(TL-WN725N), N150 Wireless Network
    Adapter for Desktop - Nano Size WiFi Dongle Compatible with Windows 10/7/8/8.1/XP/ Mac OS 10.9-10.15 Linux Kernel 2.6.18-4.4.3

    This one identifies itself on the USB port as: 0bda:8179
    The full lsusb output:
    Bus 001 Device 010: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
    RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter

    (2)
    D-Link DWA-131 Wireless N Nano USB Adapter (Black)
    This one doesn't even register itself properly using lsusb.
    Says:
    Bus 001 Device 012: ID 2001:3319 D-Link Corp.
    This one was supposed to have been compatible by the seller (Amazon.in
    could with be searched with "B008IFXQFU" for the Product Id.)

    So could anyone inform me about a product based on his personal
    experience please?

    I find from the Debian page that the safest chipsets are as follows:
    carl9170 Atheros Communications AR9170 chipset
    prism2_usb Intersil Prism 2/2.5/3 chipsets
    rndis_wlan Broadcom BCM4320 chipset
    rt2500usb Ralink RT2500USB/RT2571 chipset
    rtl8187 Realtek chipsets (RTL8187, RTL8187B)

    Regards,
    Rajib



    <div dir="auto">Respected user/s,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Hi! You can try the following links and choose the best. Here&#39;s the link:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.amazon.
    in/TP-Link-TL-UE300-Gigabit-Ethernet-Network/dp/B00V4BGDKU/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=Plugable+USB+to+Ethernet+Adapter%2C+USB+3.0+to+Gigabit+Ethernet%2C+Supports+Windows+10%2C+8.1%2C+7%2C+XP%2C+Linux%2C+Chrome+OS&amp;qid=1616719788&amp;sr=8-1"
    rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.in/TP-Link-TL-UE300-Gigabit-Ethernet-Network/dp/B00V4BGDKU/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=Plugable+USB+to+Ethernet+Adapter%2C+USB+3.0+to+Gigabit+Ethernet%2C+Supports+Windows+10%2C+8.1%
    2C+7%2C+XP%2C+Linux%2C+Chrome+OS&amp;qid=1616719788&amp;sr=8-1</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.flipkart.com/tp-link-ue300-ethernet-network-adapter-lan/p/itmegg7cbn9hq4mh">https://www.flipkart.com/tp-link-ue300-
    ethernet-network-adapter-lan/p/itmegg7cbn9hq4mh</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">How to setup usb 3.0 to ethernet network adapter on Debian.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir=
    "auto"><a href="https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/386162/how-to-set-up-an-usb-ethernet-interface-in-linux" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/386162/how-to-set-up-an-usb-ethernet-interface-in-linux</a><br></
    <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">My advice would be to choose usb 3.0.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Usb3.0 is fully
    compatible with usb 2.0 and 1.0</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I hope I  have solved your problem. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sincerely</div><div dir="auto">Adrian</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br>
    </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu., Mar. 25, 2021, 9:09 a.m. Susmita/Rajib, &lt;<a href="mailto:bkpsusmitaa@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">bkpsusmitaa@gmail.com<
    &gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">My illustrious List Members and our Problem Solvers, Debian.org,<br>

    This issue arose because of my need to bypass the non-accessible WiFi<br> network through the native card on my HP laptop. The network strength<br>
    is raed by network manager applet, but data can&#39;t be exchanged.<br>

    Could you please suggest me an USB WiFi dongle that is recommended by<br> Debian and available in India?<br>
    <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USB_Devices" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USB_Devices</a><br>
    and<br>
    <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB</a><br>

    Problem with Amazon is that the chipsets are not available with the<br> product. How could I find a product that would have the listed<br>
    chipset?<br>

    I ordered these two products without any possibility for comparison<br>
    with the said Debian Pages:<br>

    (1)<br>
    TP-Link USB WiFi Adapter for PC(TL-WN725N), N150 Wireless Network<br>
    Adapter for Desktop - Nano Size WiFi Dongle Compatible with Windows<br> 10/7/8/8.1/XP/ Mac OS 10.9-10.15 Linux Kernel 2.6.18-4.4.3<br>

    This one identifies itself on the USB port as: 0bda:8179<br>
    The full lsusb output:<br>
    Bus 001 Device 010: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.<br>
    RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter<br>

    (2)<br>
    D-Link DWA-131 Wireless N Nano USB Adapter (Black)<br>
    This one doesn&#39;t even register itself properly using lsusb.<br>
    Says:<br>
    Bus 001 Device 012: ID 2001:3319 D-Link Corp.<br>
    This one was supposed to have been compatible by the seller (Amazon.in<br> could with be searched with &quot;B008IFXQFU&quot; for the Product Id.)<br>

    So could anyone inform me about a product based on his personal<br>
    experience please?<br>

    I find from the Debian page that the safest chipsets are as follows:<br> carl9170 Atheros Communications AR9170 chipset<br>
    prism2_usb Intersil Prism 2/2.5/3 chipsets<br>
    rndis_wlan Broadcom BCM4320 chipset<br>
    rt2500usb Ralink RT2500USB/RT2571 chipset<br>
    rtl8187 Realtek chipsets (RTL8187, RTL8187B)<br>

    Regards,<br>
    Rajib<br>

    </blockquote></div>

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  • From Adrian D'Costa@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 26 02:30:02 2021
    Sorry. It's me again. If you need the Linux driver by any chance here's the website.

    https://www.tp-link.com/ca/support/download/ue300/

    I hope this helps.



    On Thu., Mar. 25, 2021, 9:04 p.m. Adrian D'Costa, <adriandcosta1@gmail.com> wrote:

    Respected user/s,

    Hi! You can try the following links and choose the best. Here's the link:



    https://www.amazon.in/TP-Link-TL-UE300-Gigabit-Ethernet-Network/dp/B00V4BGDKU/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Plugable+USB+to+Ethernet+Adapter%2C+USB+3.0+to+Gigabit+Ethernet%2C+Supports+Windows+10%2C+8.1%2C+7%2C+XP%2C+Linux%2C+Chrome+OS&qid=1616719788&
    sr=8-1


    https://www.flipkart.com/tp-link-ue300-ethernet-network-adapter-lan/p/itmegg7cbn9hq4mh



    How to setup usb 3.0 to ethernet network adapter on Debian.


    https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/386162/how-to-set-up-an-usb-ethernet-interface-in-linux





    My advice would be to choose usb 3.0.

    Usb3.0 is fully compatible with usb 2.0 and 1.0

    I hope I have solved your problem.

    Sincerely
    Adrian



    On Thu., Mar. 25, 2021, 9:09 a.m. Susmita/Rajib, <bkpsusmitaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    My illustrious List Members and our Problem Solvers, Debian.org,

    This issue arose because of my need to bypass the non-accessible WiFi
    network through the native card on my HP laptop. The network strength
    is raed by network manager applet, but data can't be exchanged.

    Could you please suggest me an USB WiFi dongle that is recommended by
    Debian and available in India?
    https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USB_Devices
    and
    https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB

    Problem with Amazon is that the chipsets are not available with the
    product. How could I find a product that would have the listed
    chipset?

    I ordered these two products without any possibility for comparison
    with the said Debian Pages:

    (1)
    TP-Link USB WiFi Adapter for PC(TL-WN725N), N150 Wireless Network
    Adapter for Desktop - Nano Size WiFi Dongle Compatible with Windows
    10/7/8/8.1/XP/ Mac OS 10.9-10.15 Linux Kernel 2.6.18-4.4.3

    This one identifies itself on the USB port as: 0bda:8179
    The full lsusb output:
    Bus 001 Device 010: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
    RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter

    (2)
    D-Link DWA-131 Wireless N Nano USB Adapter (Black)
    This one doesn't even register itself properly using lsusb.
    Says:
    Bus 001 Device 012: ID 2001:3319 D-Link Corp.
    This one was supposed to have been compatible by the seller (Amazon.in
    could with be searched with "B008IFXQFU" for the Product Id.)

    So could anyone inform me about a product based on his personal
    experience please?

    I find from the Debian page that the safest chipsets are as follows:
    carl9170 Atheros Communications AR9170 chipset
    prism2_usb Intersil Prism 2/2.5/3 chipsets
    rndis_wlan Broadcom BCM4320 chipset
    rt2500usb Ralink RT2500USB/RT2571 chipset
    rtl8187 Realtek chipsets (RTL8187, RTL8187B)

    Regards,
    Rajib



    <div dir="auto">Sorry. It&#39;s me again. If you need the Linux driver by any chance here&#39;s the website.<div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.tp-link.com/ca/support/download/ue300/">https://www.tp-link.com/ca/support/download/ue300/
    </a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I hope this helps.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu., Mar. 25, 2021, 9:04 p.m. Adrian D&#39;
    Costa, &lt;<a href="mailto:adriandcosta1@gmail.com">adriandcosta1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Respected user/s,<div dir="auto"><br>
    </div><div dir="auto">Hi! You can try the following links and choose the best. Here&#39;s the link:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.amazon.in/TP-Link-TL-UE300-Gigabit-Ethernet-Network/dp/
    B00V4BGDKU/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=Plugable+USB+to+Ethernet+Adapter%2C+USB+3.0+to+Gigabit+Ethernet%2C+Supports+Windows+10%2C+8.1%2C+7%2C+XP%2C+Linux%2C+Chrome+OS&amp;qid=1616719788&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_
    blank">https://www.amazon.in/TP-Link-TL-UE300-Gigabit-Ethernet-Network/dp/B00V4BGDKU/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=Plugable+USB+to+Ethernet+Adapter%2C+USB+3.0+to+Gigabit+Ethernet%2C+Supports+Windows+10%2C+8.1%2C+7%2C+XP%2C+Linux%2C+Chrome+OS&amp;
    qid=1616719788&amp;sr=8-1</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.flipkart.com/tp-link-ue300-ethernet-network-adapter-lan/p/itmegg7cbn9hq4mh" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.flipkart.com/tp-link-ue300-
    ethernet-network-adapter-lan/p/itmegg7cbn9hq4mh</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">How to setup usb 3.0 to ethernet network adapter on Debian.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir=
    "auto"><a href="https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/386162/how-to-set-up-an-usb-ethernet-interface-in-linux" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/386162/how-to-set-up-an-usb-ethernet-interface-in-linux<
    <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">My advice would be to choose usb 3.0.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Usb3.0 is
    fully compatible with usb 2.0 and 1.0</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I hope I  have solved your problem. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sincerely</div><div dir="auto">Adrian</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="
    auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu., Mar. 25, 2021, 9:09 a.m. Susmita/Rajib, &lt;<a href="mailto:bkpsusmitaa@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">
    bkpsusmitaa@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">My illustrious List Members and our Problem Solvers, Debian.org,<br>

    This issue arose because of my need to bypass the non-accessible WiFi<br> network through the native card on my HP laptop. The network strength<br>
    is raed by network manager applet, but data can&#39;t be exchanged.<br>

    Could you please suggest me an USB WiFi dongle that is recommended by<br> Debian and available in India?<br>
    <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USB_Devices" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USB_Devices</a><br>
    and<br>
    <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB</a><br>

    Problem with Amazon is that the chipsets are not available with the<br> product. How could I find a product that would have the listed<br>
    chipset?<br>

    I ordered these two products without any possibility for comparison<br>
    with the said Debian Pages:<br>

    (1)<br>
    TP-Link USB WiFi Adapter for PC(TL-WN725N), N150 Wireless Network<br>
    Adapter for Desktop - Nano Size WiFi Dongle Compatible with Windows<br> 10/7/8/8.1/XP/ Mac OS 10.9-10.15 Linux Kernel 2.6.18-4.4.3<br>

    This one identifies itself on the USB port as: 0bda:8179<br>
    The full lsusb output:<br>
    Bus 001 Device 010: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.<br>
    RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter<br>

    (2)<br>
    D-Link DWA-131 Wireless N Nano USB Adapter (Black)<br>
    This one doesn&#39;t even register itself properly using lsusb.<br>
    Says:<br>
    Bus 001 Device 012: ID 2001:3319 D-Link Corp.<br>
    This one was supposed to have been compatible by the seller (Amazon.in<br> could with be searched with &quot;B008IFXQFU&quot; for the Product Id.)<br>

    So could anyone inform me about a product based on his personal<br>
    experience please?<br>

    I find from the Debian page that the safest chipsets are as follows:<br> carl9170 Atheros Communications AR9170 chipset<br>
    prism2_usb Intersil Prism 2/2.5/3 chipsets<br>
    rndis_wlan Broadcom BCM4320 chipset<br>
    rt2500usb Ralink RT2500USB/RT2571 chipset<br>
    rtl8187 Realtek chipsets (RTL8187, RTL8187B)<br>

    Regards,<br>
    Rajib<br>

    </blockquote></div>
    </blockquote></div>

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  • From Susmita/Rajib@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 26 04:50:01 2021
    Thank you, Mr. Costa for your trying to solve my problem by your twin
    posts with UMID: (msg00027 and msg00028).html

    I have a question however: what is the chipset accompanying the said product?

    Best.

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  • From Adrian D'Costa@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 26 12:20:02 2021
    The chipset is RTL8153.

    here's the link:

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://static.tp-link.com/res/down/doc/UE300_V1_Datasheet.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiYlojs5c3vAhWVdc0KHW-jDDYQFjAAegQIBRAC&usg=AOvVaw21a18FzpwuK1QYWryS5ksw

    Here's Debian buster supported list that says it supports rtl8153


    https://manpages.debian.org/buster/freebsd-manpages/if_ure.4freebsd.en.html

    Here's how to install ur 300

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.sip2serve.com/post/612989072728883200/rpi-with-usb-gigabit-ethernet-dongle-on-stretch/amp



    On Thu., Mar. 25, 2021, 9:09 a.m. Susmita/Rajib, <bkpsusmitaa@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    My illustrious List Members and our Problem Solvers, Debian.org,

    This issue arose because of my need to bypass the non-accessible WiFi
    network through the native card on my HP laptop. The network strength
    is raed by network manager applet, but data can't be exchanged.

    Could you please suggest me an USB WiFi dongle that is recommended by
    Debian and available in India?
    https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USB_Devices
    and
    https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB

    Problem with Amazon is that the chipsets are not available with the
    product. How could I find a product that would have the listed
    chipset?

    I ordered these two products without any possibility for comparison
    with the said Debian Pages:

    (1)
    TP-Link USB WiFi Adapter for PC(TL-WN725N), N150 Wireless Network
    Adapter for Desktop - Nano Size WiFi Dongle Compatible with Windows 10/7/8/8.1/XP/ Mac OS 10.9-10.15 Linux Kernel 2.6.18-4.4.3

    This one identifies itself on the USB port as: 0bda:8179
    The full lsusb output:
    Bus 001 Device 010: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
    RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter

    (2)
    D-Link DWA-131 Wireless N Nano USB Adapter (Black)
    This one doesn't even register itself properly using lsusb.
    Says:
    Bus 001 Device 012: ID 2001:3319 D-Link Corp.
    This one was supposed to have been compatible by the seller (Amazon.in
    could with be searched with "B008IFXQFU" for the Product Id.)

    So could anyone inform me about a product based on his personal
    experience please?

    I find from the Debian page that the safest chipsets are as follows:
    carl9170 Atheros Communications AR9170 chipset
    prism2_usb Intersil Prism 2/2.5/3 chipsets
    rndis_wlan Broadcom BCM4320 chipset
    rt2500usb Ralink RT2500USB/RT2571 chipset
    rtl8187 Realtek chipsets (RTL8187, RTL8187B)

    Regards,
    Rajib



    <div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">The chipset is RTL8153.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">here&#39;s the link:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;rct=j&amp;url=https://static.
    tp-link.com/res/down/doc/UE300_V1_Datasheet.pdf&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiYlojs5c3vAhWVdc0KHW-jDDYQFjAAegQIBRAC&amp;usg=AOvVaw21a18FzpwuK1QYWryS5ksw" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;rct=j&amp;url=https:
    //static.tp-link.com/res/down/doc/UE300_V1_Datasheet.pdf&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiYlojs5c3vAhWVdc0KHW-jDDYQFjAAegQIBRAC&amp;usg=AOvVaw21a18FzpwuK1QYWryS5ksw</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Here&#39;s Debian buster supported list that says
    it supports rtl8153</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://manpages.debian.org/buster/freebsd-manpages/if_ure.4freebsd.en.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://manpages.debian.org/buster/freebsd-
    manpages/if_ure.4freebsd.en.html</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Here&#39;s how to install ur 300 </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.sip2serve.com/post/612989072728883200/rpi-
    with-usb-gigabit-ethernet-dongle-on-stretch/amp">https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.sip2serve.com/post/612989072728883200/rpi-with-usb-gigabit-ethernet-dongle-on-stretch/amp</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div
    class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu., Mar. 25, 2021, 9:09 a.m. Susmita/Rajib, &lt;<a href="mailto:bkpsusmitaa@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">bkpsusmitaa@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="
    gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">My illustrious List Members and our Problem Solvers, Debian.org,<br>

    This issue arose because of my need to bypass the non-accessible WiFi<br> network through the native card on my HP laptop. The network strength<br>
    is raed by network manager applet, but data can&#39;t be exchanged.<br>

    Could you please suggest me an USB WiFi dongle that is recommended by<br> Debian and available in India?<br>
    <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USB_Devices" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USB_Devices</a><br>
    and<br>
    <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB</a><br>

    Problem with Amazon is that the chipsets are not available with the<br> product. How could I find a product that would have the listed<br>
    chipset?<br>

    I ordered these two products without any possibility for comparison<br>
    with the said Debian Pages:<br>

    (1)<br>
    TP-Link USB WiFi Adapter for PC(TL-WN725N), N150 Wireless Network<br>
    Adapter for Desktop - Nano Size WiFi Dongle Compatible with Windows<br> 10/7/8/8.1/XP/ Mac OS 10.9-10.15 Linux Kernel 2.6.18-4.4.3<br>

    This one identifies itself on the USB port as: 0bda:8179<br>
    The full lsusb output:<br>
    Bus 001 Device 010: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.<br>
    RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter<br>

    (2)<br>
    D-Link DWA-131 Wireless N Nano USB Adapter (Black)<br>
    This one doesn&#39;t even register itself properly using lsusb.<br>
    Says:<br>
    Bus 001 Device 012: ID 2001:3319 D-Link Corp.<br>
    This one was supposed to have been compatible by the seller (Amazon.in<br> could with be searched with &quot;B008IFXQFU&quot; for the Product Id.)<br>

    So could anyone inform me about a product based on his personal<br>
    experience please?<br>

    I find from the Debian page that the safest chipsets are as follows:<br> carl9170 Atheros Communications AR9170 chipset<br>
    prism2_usb Intersil Prism 2/2.5/3 chipsets<br>
    rndis_wlan Broadcom BCM4320 chipset<br>
    rt2500usb Ralink RT2500USB/RT2571 chipset<br>
    rtl8187 Realtek chipsets (RTL8187, RTL8187B)<br>

    Regards,<br>
    Rajib<br>

    </blockquote></div></div>

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  • From Adrian D'Costa@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 26 13:40:02 2021
    Please kindly don't depend on my words. Ask someone who has used it. Sorry.

    On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 7:15 a.m. Adrian D'Costa, <adriandcosta1@gmail.com> wrote:

    The chipset is RTL8153.

    here's the link:


    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://static.tp-link.com/res/down/doc/UE300_V1_Datasheet.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiYlojs5c3vAhWVdc0KHW-jDDYQFjAAegQIBRAC&usg=AOvVaw21a18FzpwuK1QYWryS5ksw

    Here's Debian buster supported list that says it supports rtl8153


    https://manpages.debian.org/buster/freebsd-manpages/if_ure.4freebsd.en.html

    Here's how to install ur 300


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.sip2serve.com/post/612989072728883200/rpi-with-usb-gigabit-ethernet-dongle-on-stretch/amp



    On Thu., Mar. 25, 2021, 9:09 a.m. Susmita/Rajib, <bkpsusmitaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    My illustrious List Members and our Problem Solvers, Debian.org,

    This issue arose because of my need to bypass the non-accessible WiFi
    network through the native card on my HP laptop. The network strength
    is raed by network manager applet, but data can't be exchanged.

    Could you please suggest me an USB WiFi dongle that is recommended by
    Debian and available in India?
    https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USB_Devices
    and
    https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB

    Problem with Amazon is that the chipsets are not available with the
    product. How could I find a product that would have the listed
    chipset?

    I ordered these two products without any possibility for comparison
    with the said Debian Pages:

    (1)
    TP-Link USB WiFi Adapter for PC(TL-WN725N), N150 Wireless Network
    Adapter for Desktop - Nano Size WiFi Dongle Compatible with Windows
    10/7/8/8.1/XP/ Mac OS 10.9-10.15 Linux Kernel 2.6.18-4.4.3

    This one identifies itself on the USB port as: 0bda:8179
    The full lsusb output:
    Bus 001 Device 010: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
    RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter

    (2)
    D-Link DWA-131 Wireless N Nano USB Adapter (Black)
    This one doesn't even register itself properly using lsusb.
    Says:
    Bus 001 Device 012: ID 2001:3319 D-Link Corp.
    This one was supposed to have been compatible by the seller (Amazon.in
    could with be searched with "B008IFXQFU" for the Product Id.)

    So could anyone inform me about a product based on his personal
    experience please?

    I find from the Debian page that the safest chipsets are as follows:
    carl9170 Atheros Communications AR9170 chipset
    prism2_usb Intersil Prism 2/2.5/3 chipsets
    rndis_wlan Broadcom BCM4320 chipset
    rt2500usb Ralink RT2500USB/RT2571 chipset
    rtl8187 Realtek chipsets (RTL8187, RTL8187B)

    Regards,
    Rajib



    <div dir="auto">Please kindly don&#39;t depend on my words. Ask someone who has used it. Sorry. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 7:15 a.m. Adrian D&#39;Costa, &lt;<a href="mailto:adriandcosta1@
    gmail.com">adriandcosta1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">The chipset is RTL8153.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="
    auto">here&#39;s the link:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;rct=j&amp;url=https://static.tp-link.com/res/down/doc/UE300_V1_Datasheet.pdf&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiYlojs5c3vAhWVdc0KHW-
    jDDYQFjAAegQIBRAC&amp;usg=AOvVaw21a18FzpwuK1QYWryS5ksw" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;rct=j&amp;url=https://static.tp-link.com/res/down/doc/UE300_V1_Datasheet.pdf&amp;ved=
    2ahUKEwiYlojs5c3vAhWVdc0KHW-jDDYQFjAAegQIBRAC&amp;usg=AOvVaw21a18FzpwuK1QYWryS5ksw</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Here&#39;s Debian buster supported list that says it supports rtl8153</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">
    <br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://manpages.debian.org/buster/freebsd-manpages/if_ure.4freebsd.en.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://manpages.debian.org/buster/freebsd-manpages/if_ure.4freebsd.en.html</a><br></div><div dir="
    auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Here&#39;s how to install ur 300 </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.sip2serve.com/post/612989072728883200/rpi-with-usb-gigabit-ethernet-dongle-on-stretch/amp" target=
    "_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.sip2serve.com/post/612989072728883200/rpi-with-usb-gigabit-ethernet-dongle-on-stretch/amp</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div
    dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu., Mar. 25, 2021, 9:09 a.m. Susmita/Rajib, &lt;<a href="mailto:bkpsusmitaa@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">bkpsusmitaa@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote"
    style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">My illustrious List Members and our Problem Solvers, Debian.org,<br>

    This issue arose because of my need to bypass the non-accessible WiFi<br> network through the native card on my HP laptop. The network strength<br>
    is raed by network manager applet, but data can&#39;t be exchanged.<br>

    Could you please suggest me an USB WiFi dongle that is recommended by<br> Debian and available in India?<br>
    <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USB_Devices" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USB_Devices</a><br>
    and<br>
    <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB</a><br>

    Problem with Amazon is that the chipsets are not available with the<br> product. How could I find a product that would have the listed<br>
    chipset?<br>

    I ordered these two products without any possibility for comparison<br>
    with the said Debian Pages:<br>

    (1)<br>
    TP-Link USB WiFi Adapter for PC(TL-WN725N), N150 Wireless Network<br>
    Adapter for Desktop - Nano Size WiFi Dongle Compatible with Windows<br> 10/7/8/8.1/XP/ Mac OS 10.9-10.15 Linux Kernel 2.6.18-4.4.3<br>

    This one identifies itself on the USB port as: 0bda:8179<br>
    The full lsusb output:<br>
    Bus 001 Device 010: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.<br>
    RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter<br>

    (2)<br>
    D-Link DWA-131 Wireless N Nano USB Adapter (Black)<br>
    This one doesn&#39;t even register itself properly using lsusb.<br>
    Says:<br>
    Bus 001 Device 012: ID 2001:3319 D-Link Corp.<br>
    This one was supposed to have been compatible by the seller (Amazon.in<br> could with be searched with &quot;B008IFXQFU&quot; for the Product Id.)<br>

    So could anyone inform me about a product based on his personal<br>
    experience please?<br>

    I find from the Debian page that the safest chipsets are as follows:<br> carl9170 Atheros Communications AR9170 chipset<br>
    prism2_usb Intersil Prism 2/2.5/3 chipsets<br>
    rndis_wlan Broadcom BCM4320 chipset<br>
    rt2500usb Ralink RT2500USB/RT2571 chipset<br>
    rtl8187 Realtek chipsets (RTL8187, RTL8187B)<br>

    Regards,<br>
    Rajib<br>

    </blockquote></div></div>
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  • From Adrian D'Costa@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 26 15:10:02 2021
    Please kindly sir try to understand I gave you an opinion only. Please ask other people on this forum if they have used it or not.

    On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 8:32 a.m. Adrian D'Costa, <adriandcosta1@gmail.com> wrote:

    Please kindly don't depend on my words. Ask someone who has used it.
    Sorry.

    On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 7:15 a.m. Adrian D'Costa, <adriandcosta1@gmail.com> wrote:

    The chipset is RTL8153.

    here's the link:


    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://static.tp-link.com/res/down/doc/UE300_V1_Datasheet.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiYlojs5c3vAhWVdc0KHW-jDDYQFjAAegQIBRAC&usg=AOvVaw21a18FzpwuK1QYWryS5ksw

    Here's Debian buster supported list that says it supports rtl8153



    https://manpages.debian.org/buster/freebsd-manpages/if_ure.4freebsd.en.html >>
    Here's how to install ur 300


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.sip2serve.com/post/612989072728883200/rpi-with-usb-gigabit-ethernet-dongle-on-stretch/amp



    On Thu., Mar. 25, 2021, 9:09 a.m. Susmita/Rajib, <bkpsusmitaa@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    My illustrious List Members and our Problem Solvers, Debian.org,

    This issue arose because of my need to bypass the non-accessible WiFi
    network through the native card on my HP laptop. The network strength
    is raed by network manager applet, but data can't be exchanged.

    Could you please suggest me an USB WiFi dongle that is recommended by
    Debian and available in India?
    https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USB_Devices
    and
    https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB

    Problem with Amazon is that the chipsets are not available with the
    product. How could I find a product that would have the listed
    chipset?

    I ordered these two products without any possibility for comparison
    with the said Debian Pages:

    (1)
    TP-Link USB WiFi Adapter for PC(TL-WN725N), N150 Wireless Network
    Adapter for Desktop - Nano Size WiFi Dongle Compatible with Windows
    10/7/8/8.1/XP/ Mac OS 10.9-10.15 Linux Kernel 2.6.18-4.4.3

    This one identifies itself on the USB port as: 0bda:8179
    The full lsusb output:
    Bus 001 Device 010: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
    RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter

    (2)
    D-Link DWA-131 Wireless N Nano USB Adapter (Black)
    This one doesn't even register itself properly using lsusb.
    Says:
    Bus 001 Device 012: ID 2001:3319 D-Link Corp.
    This one was supposed to have been compatible by the seller (Amazon.in
    could with be searched with "B008IFXQFU" for the Product Id.)

    So could anyone inform me about a product based on his personal
    experience please?

    I find from the Debian page that the safest chipsets are as follows:
    carl9170 Atheros Communications AR9170 chipset
    prism2_usb Intersil Prism 2/2.5/3 chipsets
    rndis_wlan Broadcom BCM4320 chipset
    rt2500usb Ralink RT2500USB/RT2571 chipset
    rtl8187 Realtek chipsets (RTL8187, RTL8187B)

    Regards,
    Rajib



    <div dir="auto">Please kindly sir try to understand I gave you an opinion only. Please ask other people on this forum if they have used it or not.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 8:32 a.m.
    Adrian D&#39;Costa, &lt;<a href="mailto:adriandcosta1@gmail.com">adriandcosta1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Please kindly don&#39;t
    depend on my words. Ask someone who has used it. Sorry. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 7:15 a.m. Adrian D&#39;Costa, &lt;<a href="mailto:adriandcosta1@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="
    noreferrer">adriandcosta1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">The chipset is RTL8153.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="
    auto">here&#39;s the link:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;rct=j&amp;url=https://static.tp-link.com/res/down/doc/UE300_V1_Datasheet.pdf&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiYlojs5c3vAhWVdc0KHW-
    jDDYQFjAAegQIBRAC&amp;usg=AOvVaw21a18FzpwuK1QYWryS5ksw" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;rct=j&amp;url=https://static.tp-link.com/res/down/doc/UE300_V1_Datasheet.pdf&amp;
    ved=2ahUKEwiYlojs5c3vAhWVdc0KHW-jDDYQFjAAegQIBRAC&amp;usg=AOvVaw21a18FzpwuK1QYWryS5ksw</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Here&#39;s Debian buster supported list that says it supports rtl8153</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="
    auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://manpages.debian.org/buster/freebsd-manpages/if_ure.4freebsd.en.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://manpages.debian.org/buster/freebsd-manpages/if_ure.4freebsd.en.html</a><
    </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Here&#39;s how to install ur 300 </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.sip2serve.com/post/612989072728883200/rpi-with-usb-gigabit-ethernet-dongle-on-
    stretch/amp" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.sip2serve.com/post/612989072728883200/rpi-with-usb-gigabit-ethernet-dongle-on-stretch/amp</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><
    <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu., Mar. 25, 2021, 9:09 a.m. Susmita/Rajib, &lt;<a href="mailto:bkpsusmitaa@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">bkpsusmitaa@gmail.com</a>&gt;
    wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">My illustrious List Members and our Problem Solvers, Debian.org,<br>

    This issue arose because of my need to bypass the non-accessible WiFi<br> network through the native card on my HP laptop. The network strength<br>
    is raed by network manager applet, but data can&#39;t be exchanged.<br>

    Could you please suggest me an USB WiFi dongle that is recommended by<br> Debian and available in India?<br>
    <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USB_Devices" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USB_Devices</a><br>
    and<br>
    <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB</a><br>

    Problem with Amazon is that the chipsets are not available with the<br> product. How could I find a product that would have the listed<br>
    chipset?<br>

    I ordered these two products without any possibility for comparison<br>
    with the said Debian Pages:<br>

    (1)<br>
    TP-Link USB WiFi Adapter for PC(TL-WN725N), N150 Wireless Network<br>
    Adapter for Desktop - Nano Size WiFi Dongle Compatible with Windows<br> 10/7/8/8.1/XP/ Mac OS 10.9-10.15 Linux Kernel 2.6.18-4.4.3<br>

    This one identifies itself on the USB port as: 0bda:8179<br>
    The full lsusb output:<br>
    Bus 001 Device 010: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.<br>
    RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter<br>

    (2)<br>
    D-Link DWA-131 Wireless N Nano USB Adapter (Black)<br>
    This one doesn&#39;t even register itself properly using lsusb.<br>
    Says:<br>
    Bus 001 Device 012: ID 2001:3319 D-Link Corp.<br>
    This one was supposed to have been compatible by the seller (Amazon.in<br> could with be searched with &quot;B008IFXQFU&quot; for the Product Id.)<br>

    So could anyone inform me about a product based on his personal<br>
    experience please?<br>

    I find from the Debian page that the safest chipsets are as follows:<br> carl9170 Atheros Communications AR9170 chipset<br>
    prism2_usb Intersil Prism 2/2.5/3 chipsets<br>
    rndis_wlan Broadcom BCM4320 chipset<br>
    rt2500usb Ralink RT2500USB/RT2571 chipset<br>
    rtl8187 Realtek chipsets (RTL8187, RTL8187B)<br>

    Regards,<br>
    Rajib<br>

    </blockquote></div></div>
    </blockquote></div>
    </blockquote></div>

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