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  • Re: po statistics

    From Helge Kreutzmann@21:1/5 to Laura Arjona Reina on Tue Nov 21 06:10:01 2023
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    Hello,
    On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 01:41:04PM +0100, Laura Arjona Reina wrote:
    El 20/11/23 a las 10:43, Thomas Lange escribió:
    I'm still not sure which of the languages we need or which are just
    bugs in packages. Or do we have bug in the scripts, that generat this language list?
    What about the AA_BB and AA@somestring languages?

    For e.g. I wonder why we have international/l10n/po/man_DE
    which links only to this po file: https://i18n.debian.org/material/po/unstable/main/i/i2p/installer/resources/locale-man/i2p_0.9.48-1.1_man_de.po.gz

    This po file cleary says
    "Language: de\n"
    Why is the language then called man_DE and not just "de"? Is this a
    bug in our scripts?

    I think this is a bug, because those po files are named man_ because they
    are translations of the manual pages, not because of the Mandingo language.

    "Similar" thing happens with https://www.debian.org/international/l10n/po/bos_DE (and all other bos_XX links in https://www.debian.org/international/l10n/po/): they are translations files of the boswars package, having two translations
    templates, one named     boswars_version_xx.po.gz and another one named  boswars_version_bos_xx.po.gz, so that "bos" is misdetected as Bosnian language.

    Ideally these would be fixed upstream, but 2nd best option would be to
    filter them, i.e. if it is invalid combination (as shown) then simply
    simply present it unter "DE" (in your example).

    This, howeve, would require a list of all valid combination. I don't
    know if such a list exists.

    Greetings

    Helge

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  • From Thomas Lange@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 23 13:50:01 2023
    XPost: linux.debian.www

    Hi all,

    thanks for all the feedback. It seems that there's more work to do
    than I've expected. Currently I will not work on fixing the po
    statistics, because I want to concentrate on the security pages.
    So, if anyone else likes to work on this, feel free to do so.

    --
    regards Thomas

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  • From Holger Wansing@21:1/5 to Thomas Lange on Mon Jan 1 23:40:01 2024
    XPost: linux.debian.www

    Hi,

    Thomas Lange <lange@cs.uni-koeln.de> wrote (Thu, 23 Nov 2023 13:39:16 +0100):
    thanks for all the feedback. It seems that there's more work to do
    than I've expected. Currently I will not work on fixing the po
    statistics, because I want to concentrate on the security pages.
    So, if anyone else likes to work on this, feel free to do so.

    I have a tested patch here, which allows to strip out some of the language entries out of the 'langs' list, so those entries do no longer show up at https://www.debian.org/international/l10n/po/ and the respective html
    pages are not built as well.

    For the first step I have chosen to delete most of the "Unknown language" entries and some more, which are false-positives because of wrongly
    named files/directories in packages.
    It workes fine here locally.

    The functionality is as the following:
    When make is executed in the ./english/international/l10n/po directory,
    the gen-files.sh script is called, which builds the list of languages
    out of the material from https://i18n.debian.org/material/.
    This list of languages is written to ./english/international/l10n/data/langs.

    I have now created a script named strip-langs.sh, which removes entries
    by choice from this langs file (you can define in this script, which
    entries to remove).
    The strip-langs.sh is called after the gen-files.sh run.
    And then the html files for all the left languages are built.

    With this, we would have an infrastructure, to remove single language
    entries from the langs list choice by choice.

    In additional steps, we could also remove entries like de_AT, de_CH, de_DE
    and only leave 'de', as mentioned by Thomas.
    But that's another discussion.


    I have filed this as a merge request: https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/-/merge_requests/947

    Holger


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  • From Thomas Lange@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 2 09:30:01 2024
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    Hi Holger,

    this script looks good to me. Thanks a lot for your work on this.
    I think you can merge it.

    On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 23:39:09 +0100, Holger Wansing <hwansing@mailbox.org> said:


    > In additional steps, we could also remove entries like de_AT, de_CH, de_DE
    > and only leave 'de', as mentioned by Thomas.
    > But that's another discussion.
    I guess we do not want to remove those languages, but merge the
    variants into de. But maybe this need to be done in a different
    script, maybe in gen-files.pl.

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    regards Thomas

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