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  • Which languages are not used as systems default even by their native =?

    From c.buhtz@posteo.jp@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 25 13:00:01 2023
    Hello,

    in addition to this initial question by me

    https://lists.debian.org/debian-i18n/2023/09/msg00016.html

    I would like to ask you for languages that are not used as systems
    default by their nativ-speakers.
    This question is related to package "backintime" [1][2] and will result
    in a new feature.

    One example might be Faroese. Some of them do use English or Danish as
    systems default. There are several reasons why this happens. But this is
    IMHO not relevant for this thread here.

    Another that comes into my mind is Traditional Chinese. I assume most of
    its users do use Simplified Chinese.

    The idea is to "identify" such users (e.g. who setup "Danish") and
    remind them at the first(!) start of an application that this
    application do offer its GUI in a language (e.g. Faroese) that might fit better to their needs or native language.

    To implement something like this I need such a list of languages:
    Danish -> Faroese
    Simpl. Chinese -> Trad. Chinese
    Norwegian Bokmål -> Norwegian Nynorsk
    Norwegian Nynorsk -> Norwegian Bokmål
    etc

    This won't catch everyone or every language. For example lot of users
    speaking such "minor" languages just use English as default language. I
    can't catch them. Or I have to give them a list of 44 languages [3] they
    might check just because they do use English.
    For example Esperanto is another example. Esperanto speaking users are
    using different system default languages.

    But there might be other "clear" examples like Faroese?
    Do you have more examples?

    [1] -- <https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/backintime>
    [2] -- <https://github.com/bit-team/backintime>
    [3] -- <https://translate.codeberg.org/projects/backintime/common/>

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  • From Helge Kreutzmann@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 25 18:10:02 2023
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    Hello c[1],
    Am Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 10:51:49AM +0000 schrieb c.buhtz@posteo.jp:
    To implement something like this I need such a list of languages:
    Danish -> Faroese
    Simpl. Chinese -> Trad. Chinese
    Norwegian Bokmål -> Norwegian Nynorsk
    Norwegian Nynorsk -> Norwegian Bokmål
    etc

    From the top of my head:

    German → Sorbian
    German → Friesian
    Netherlands → Friesian
    (Swiss) German → Romansh
    (Swiss) French → Romansh

    And of course language variants, e.g. most German speaking users will
    use "DE", but if "DE_AT" (and all the others) are available, these
    would apply. And similarly of course for English, which has quite a
    few variants.

    Probably collecting all of these and finding a good decision tree is
    quite a bit of a task and probably should be collected in a common „library“ so other programmes might reuse this.

    Greetings

    Helge

    [1] I was reluctant to anwer because questions without names are
    usually routed to /dev/null, so you might consider giving userself
    some name handle, possibly completely made up (beyond "c").

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  • From c.buhtz@posteo.jp@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 25 21:10:01 2023
    Dear Helge,

    thanks for your reply.

    The missing name was an accident. I'm Christian Buhtz from Halle
    Germany.

    Am 25.09.2023 18:06 schrieb Helge Kreutzmann:
    Probably collecting all of these and finding a good decision tree is
    quite a bit of a task and probably should be collected in a common „library“ so other programmes might reuse this.

    Damn good idea.

    Kind
    Christian

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