• Delete https://wiki.debian.org/DDTP

    From c.buhtz@posteo.jp@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 20 16:10:01 2023
    Hello,

    on the Python list I was asking about package description translations.
    I was pointed to

    https://wiki.debian.org/DDTP

    and got shocked.

    This wiki entry is not understandable for people outside of DDTP. It is
    just a bunch of notes and TODO entries.
    It doesn't help Debian as a project. But it IMHO harms Debian's image
    because this is accessible to the public and someone could argue this is
    a regular Debian website.

    There is a much better resource

    https://www.debian.org/international/l10n/ddtp

    It is not clear for me why this wiki entry exists. I see no good reason
    for it.
    I would recommend to move the relevant information's from the wiki to "https://www.debian.org/international/l10n/ddtp" and then remove the
    whole wiki entry.

    I also found

    https://wiki.debian.org/I18n

    So what is the main resource? Please centralize your information's for outsiders. This would prevent you from driving potential contributors
    away.

    Kind
    Christian Buhtz

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  • From Beatrice Torracca@21:1/5 to c.buhtz@posteo.jp on Tue Feb 21 18:40:01 2023
    Hi!

    On 20/02/23 16:02, c.buhtz@posteo.jp wrote:

    on the Python list I was asking about package description translations.
    I was pointed to

    https://wiki.debian.org/DDTP

    and got shocked.

    This wiki entry is not understandable for people outside of DDTP. It is
    just a bunch of notes and TODO entries.
    It doesn't help Debian as a project. But it IMHO harms Debian's image
    because this is accessible to the public and someone could argue this is
    a regular Debian website.

    I did not contribute to that particular wiki page, but I contribute to
    the DDTP translation work, and I am thankful for all the work Debian maintainers/developers have dedicated to the system in the past years.

    I think that page might contain several useful information for anyone
    wanting to work on maintaining the system.

    One option would be to rename it to something indicating that is mostly
    a page for those who want to contribute to managing/maintaining the
    system, more than using it for translations.

    What I did (and mind you, since it is a wiki anyone can make their
    changes and improvement to the pages) is putting a note at the beginning
    of the page stating that the page is mostly aimed at maintainers.

    Someone else might want to make bigger changes

    There is a much better resource

    https://www.debian.org/international/l10n/ddtp

    I also added a link to this page in the note, and another link to the
    DDTSS page.

    It is not clear for me why this wiki entry exists. I see no good reason
    for it.
    I would recommend to move the relevant information's from the wiki to "https://www.debian.org/international/l10n/ddtp" and then remove the
    whole wiki entry.

    I don't think I saw anywhere else info on the DDTP internal database
    structure so, personally, I did not delete the entry.

    I also found

    https://wiki.debian.org/I18n

    So what is the main resource? Please centralize your information's for outsiders. This would prevent you from driving potential contributors away.

    The good thing about the wiki is that anyone can contribute with new
    pages/new info or improving the existing ones.

    Ciao,

    beatrice

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