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Hello publicity and translation teams,

I have drafted a new announcement, "Debian 8 Long Term Support reaching end-of-life". I would like you to review the draft and the i18n teams to translate the content when it is approved by you. You can find the text
here:

https://salsa.debian.org/publicity-team/announcements/-/blob/master/en/2020/20200709.wml

The new announcement is very similar to the previous one from 2018. I
believe this will also significantly ease translations.

Key facts:

Jessie reached end-of-life on June 30, 2020.
Debian 9 will be supported until June 30, 2022.
Security support for Stretch LTS will be handed over on July 18, 2020,
after the last point release.
The supported architectures include amd64, i386, armel, armhf and arm64 now.

Regards,

Markus


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Am 02.07.20 um 20:06 schrieb Moritz Muehlenhoff:

Security support for Stretch LTS will be handed over on July 18, 2020,
after the last point release.

What's that supposed to mean? Support for oldstable ends on the 6th

And why was this not send to team@s.d.o?

Cheers,
Moritz

Sorry, but I was assuming that the official end of oldstable is on July
18 when Debian 9.13 is released.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/2020/06/msg00049.html

It was sent to debian-release too. No ill intent from our side.

Regards,

Markus


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On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 08:24:42PM +0200, Markus Koschany wrote:

Sorry, but I was assuming that the official end of oldstable is on July
18 when Debian 9.13 is released.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/2020/06/msg00049.html

That syncs up potentially missing builds and creates the "final" installation images for Stretch, but updates end on the 6th.

It was sent to debian-release too. No ill intent from our side.

No ill intent assumed. But please explicitly CC us on the next LTS
announcement draft, so that we don't only notice this by chance :-)

Cheers,
Moritz

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Am 02.07.20 um 20:39 schrieb Moritz Mühlenhoff:

On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 08:24:42PM +0200, Markus Koschany wrote:

Sorry, but I was assuming that the official end of oldstable is on July
18 when Debian 9.13 is released.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/2020/06/msg00049.html

That syncs up potentially missing builds and creates the "final" installation images for Stretch, but updates end on the 6th.

I have changed the date to 6th from 18th. Though in my opinion July 18
marks the official end of oldstable and the begin of Stretch LTS because
users will receive updates from a different channel than
stretch-security. This is something that normally won't happen while LTS
is running. Thus I have clarified the paragraph and now I mention both
dates.

It was sent to debian-release too. No ill intent from our side.

No ill intent assumed. But please explicitly CC us on the next LTS announcement draft, so that we don't only notice this by chance :-)

Sure, we have done it three times before. This time the draft looked
really innocent to me. Will do better next time. :)

Regards,

Markus



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Security support for Stretch LTS will be handed over on July 18, 2020,
after the last point release.

What's that supposed to mean? Support for oldstable ends on the 6th

And why was this not send to team@s.d.o?

Cheers,
Moritz

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[adding team@security.debian.org to CC due to parallel thread]

Hi Markus,

The supported architectures include amd64, i386, armel, armhf
and arm64 now.

On this point (at line 36) file, as this is an announcement of a
transition may I suggest making a distinction between of these
architectures are new to this support cycle? (i.e. "diff")


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Hi Chris,

Am 03.07.20 um 09:45 schrieb Chris Lamb:

[adding team@security.debian.org to CC due to parallel thread]

Hi Markus,

The supported architectures include amd64, i386, armel, armhf
and arm64 now.

On this point (at line 36) file, as this is an announcement of a
transition may I suggest making a distinction between of these
architectures are new to this support cycle? (i.e. "diff")

What do you think about changing the paragraph (line 34 to 36) to:

Debian 9 will also receive Long Term Support for five years after its
initial release with support ending on June 30, 2022. The supported architectures remain amd64, i386, armel and armhf. In addition we are
pleased to announce, for the first time support will be extended to
include the arm64 architecture.

Regards,

Markus


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Hi Markus,

What do you think about changing the paragraph (line 34 to 36) to:

Debian 9 will also receive Long Term Support for five years after its
initial release with support ending on June 30, 2022. The supported architectures remain amd64, i386, armel and armhf. In addition we are
pleased to announce, for the first time support will be extended to
include the arm64 architecture.

Perfect. :)


Regards,

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On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 09:00:10PM +0200, Sylvain Beucler wrote:

As a LTS contributor I'm not sure (and hence, I suspect this this would
be worth clarifying in the announcement) whether Stretch security
updates will be made between July the 6th and the 18th ?

I believe it's best to leave as suggested by Markus as it describes the situation as it is: security supports ends on the 6th and lts starts on
the 18th.

and then i'm sure *should* there be critical issues showing up between the
6th and the 18th, someone *will* handle them. we just don't plan for them.

(and until the 12th things can also go in regularily via the point release.)


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On Thu, 2020-07-02 at 21:02 +0200, Markus Koschany wrote:

I have changed the date to 6th from 18th.

The time is now wrong, [1] reads:

| The LTS Team will prepare the transition to Debian 9 [...]
| The LTS team will take over support from the Security Team on
| July 6, 2020 [...]

But July 6th will have been in the past on 2020-07-09 (release date for
the announcement). So it should be "The LTS Team took over
support...".

Also "LTS team" and "LTS Team" use different capitalization.

Ansgar

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