• Fwd: Contacting i18n/l10n team

    From Thiago Pezzo@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 14 16:00:01 2024
    Bom dia, como estão?

    Segue e-mail do DPL. Podemos enviar uma resposta coletiva, elaborada
    brevemente em uma reunião, o que acham?

    Abraços,
    Thiago Pezzo (Tico)

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    From: "Andreas Tille" <tille@debian.org>

    To: debian-i18n@lists.debian.org, debian-l10n-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org, "Stuart Prescott" <stuart@debian.org>, "Thomas Vincent" <tvincent@debian.org>, "Andreas Rönnquist" <gusnan@debian.org>

    Cc: leader@debian.org

    Sent: June 14, 2024 at 6:50 AM

    Subject: Contacting i18n/l10n team


    Hi,


    I'd like to officially contact all our teams to learn about potential

    issues that might affect your work. I would love to learn how you

    organise / share your workload. If you do some regular meetings - be it

    on IRC, video conference or whatever I'm interested in joining one of

    your next meetings.


    Like previous DPLs, I'm open to any inquiries or requests for

    assistance. I personally prefer public discussion whenever possible, as

    they can benefit a wider audience. You can find a list of contact

    options at the bottom of my page on people.d.o[1].


    I prefer being offline when I'm away from my keyboard, so I don't carry

    a phone. In urgent situations, I can provide the number of my dumb

    phone, though it may not always be within reach. Feel free to ping me

    via email if I don't respond promptly to ensure I address your concerns.


    Please let me know whether I can do something for you. I'm fine joining

    your IRC channel if needed but please invite me in case I should be

    informed about some urgent discussion there since I normally do not lurk

    on this channel.


    I'd also like to inform you that I've registered a BoF for DebConf24 in

    Busan with the following description:


    This BoF is an attempt to gather as much as possible teams inside

    Debian to exchange experiences, discuss workflows inside teams, share

    their ways to attract newcomers etc.


    Each participant team should prepare a short description of their work

    and what team roles (“openings”) they have for new contributors. Even

    for delegated teams (membership is less fluid), it would be good to

    present the team, explain what it takes to be a team member, and what

    steps people usually go to end up being invited to participate. Some

    other teams can easily absorb contributions from salsa MRs, and at some

    point people get commit access. Anyway, the point is that we work on the

    idea that the pathway to become a team member becomes more clear from an

    outsider point-of-view.


    I'm sure not everybody will be able to travel this distance but it would

    be great if you would at least consider joining that BoF remotely. I'll

    care for a somehow TimeZone aware scheduling - if needed we'll organise

    two BoFs to match all time zones. I'm also aware that we have pretty

    different teams and it might make sense to do some infrastructure

    related BoF with your team and other teams that are caring for Debian

    infrastructure.


    I have some specific questions to the i18n/l10n team.


    - Do you feel good when doing your work in i18n/l10n team?

    - Do you consider the workload of your team equally shared amongst its

    members?

    - I consider i18n / l10n an extremely important entry point to attract

    newcomers. Could you confirm this assumption of mine or do you

    think I'm over-optimistic here?

    - Do you have some strategy to gather new contributors for your team?

    - Can you give some individual estimation how many hours per week you

    are working on your tasks in youre team? Does this fit the amount of

    time you can really afford for this task?

    - I personally consider your team important enough to be mentioned

    on our Organizational Structure page[2]? Did you thought about this?

    I think it is good to have an entry in Debian Wiki[3](that page is

    als a bit aging - nearly 3 years no edits) but possibly the official

    web page might be more visible to newcomers. You have also a Wiki

    page for L10n[4] which I do not see linked from some global index page.

    - I'm a bit concerned about the people listed on your Wiki page[3]

    under "Usual roles" since I know most people and think they could be

    considered MIA. My team metrics initiative is somehow backing up my

    assumption from mailing list activities[5]. Teammetrics of Git commits

    are showing[6] that other people remain more active here (thanks to

    those; current most active commiters in CC)

    - I was once contributing to DDTP (in its very early days). Could you

    please give me some update about this project?

    - What other tools are you using? Can you please describe some of your

    main workflows (or provide deep links to such a descriptions)?

    - Can I do anything for you?


    Kind regards and thanks a lot for your work

    Andreas.



    [1] https://people.debian.org/~tille/

    [2] https://www.debian.org/intro/organization

    [3] https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/I18n

    [4] https://wiki.debian.org/L10n

    [5] http://blends.debian.net/liststats/authorstat_debian-i18n.png

    [6] http://blends.debian.net/liststats/commitstat_debian-l10n.png


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  • From Carlos Henrique Lima Melara@21:1/5 to Thiago Pezzo on Fri Jun 14 19:20:02 2024
    Oi,

    On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 01:52:04PM +0000, Thiago Pezzo wrote:
    Bom dia, como estão?

    Tudo certo!

    Segue e-mail do DPL. Podemos enviar uma resposta coletiva, elaborada brevemente em uma reunião, o que acham?

    Sim, com certeza!

    Em um tópico relacionado, eu inscrevi um BoF (i.e. uma mesa redonda
    aberta) para as equipes l10n e i18n para tentar aproximar a nossa
    comunidade que está espalhada pelo mundo e localizando para váriás
    línguas. A ideia é compartilhar nossas experiências, ferramentas e
    processos (e também fazer esse grupo ficar mais próximo). Preciso sentar
    e escrever um email em inglês para divulgar nas listas e convidar as contribuidoras e contribuidores para participar (mesmo que remotamente).

    Abraços,
    Charles

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