you must understand that who report a security problem can be a different person
chromium has been removed from testing
Davide Prina <davide.prina@gmail.com>wrote:
you must understand that who report a security problem can be a
different person
The point is, to quote the paper:
"a vast majority of vulnerabilities and their corresponding security
patches remain beyond public exposure"
Vulnerabilities are fixed in fresh versions of software. The versions in Stable stay vulnerable, even if all CVEs are reported to Debian
(which I don't think is the case) and even if they are all fixed quickly (which is definitely not the case) It's a limitation of Debian's and RH's approach, compared to the rolling-release approach. This is one of the
two things I mentioned that debian.org/security is not telling you.
chromium has been removed from testing
That doesn't help people who trusted debian.org/security and are running it.
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Davide Prina <davide.prina@gmail.com>wrote:
you must understand that who report a security problem can be adifferent person
The point is, to quote the paper:
"a vast majority of vulnerabilities and their corresponding security
patches remain beyond public exposure"
Vulnerabilities are fixed in fresh versions of software. The versions in Stable stay vulnerable, even if all CVEs are reported to Debian (which I don't think is the case) and even if they are all fixed quickly (which is definitely not the case) It's a limitation of Debian's and RH's approach, compared to the rolling-release approach. This is one of the two things I mentioned that debian.org/security is not telling you.
chromium has been removed from testing
That doesn't help people who trusted debian.org/security and are running
it.
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a public and custom database in a public repository as your unofficial Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures project;</div><div dir="auto">any vulnerability due to human factor, social engineering and software vulnerabilities through forums or a yourpersonal blog.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks for your enthusiasm, thanks to the open source communities and thanks to the Debian community and ... thanks to Edward Snowden for his courage.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div
3. Inform the users that using anything but the latest version of the kernel (2) and other packages comes with inherent risks and explain them (delays
in backporting fixes and known vulnerabilities not being disclosed)
(2) https://security.googleblog.com/2021/08/linux-kernel-security-done-> right.html
I understand your concern, but practicality is better then theory.
(...) we will get notification when vulnerabilities are exploited, and so we get priority.
(...) You will not find many exploitation on updated systems. And this matter more then theory. We have a social contract to users, not to philosophers.
One DD replied off-the-list, so I'll quote him without attribution:
I understand your concern, but practicality is better then theory.
(...) we will get notification when vulnerabilities are exploited, andso we get priority.
It's not so theoretical:
"Google is aware that an exploit for CVE-2021-37973 exists in the wild."
https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2021/09/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_24.html
This was 3 months ago. This hole is still open in Debian Stable, among
many others.
(...) You will not find many exploitation on updated systems. And thismatter more then theory. We have a social contract to users, not to philosophers.
A good fraction of Debian 10 and 11 users are using Chromium as we speak. They probably had a look in debian.org/security at some point, but the
page failed to warn them. Almost every Debian user I've interacted with mistakenly believes that Debian applies all relevant security updates to
all packages.
It's pretty disappointing that of the 1000+ list subscribers no one agreed with me, publicly.
Anyway, I've said my piece, and I don't know what else I could add. I
already sound like a broken record. Unsubscribing.
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</div><div dir="auto">CVE is a database managed in partnership with Homeland Security (USA) and you use an email with warrant canary. You are also an expert in social engineering, you know "Security through obscurity (STO)" (speakeasy-like).And these vulnerabilities are a good "metus hostilis" for a target.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thank you. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il mar 21 dic 2021, 22:45 Max
Dear Max,Chromium being full of vulnerabilities is well-known. It's the reason it
I am a simple user.
Thank you for notifying the community of the unresolved Chromium vulnerabilities.
You can use official channels to report vulnerabilities.
Thanks Andrey. So the future Debian Stable release will probably notThey are fixed in the new upstream versions. This is a Debian problem
include Chronium if the vulnerabilities are not fixed and this will also happen in future third party Linux distros.
I think upstream developers (Google) will have an interest in fixing vulnerabilities and potential exploits.
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