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    From Daniel Lange@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 7 11:50:01 2021
    XPost: linux.debian.user

    Hi Alvin,

    thank you very much for reaching out to Debian with this issue.

    Am 07.10.21 um 11:18 schrieb Alvin Huang:
    Beside the generate boot entry by manual. Does Debian will generate the
    boot entry automatic when the original boot entry disappeared? Because I$B!G(Bm confused the problem is cause by BIOS or Debian.

    Kibi (Cyril Brulebois) mentioned https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI#Force_grub-efi_installation_to_the_removable_media_path
    during a discussion on IRC we had about your mail.

    I assume this wiki page details the issue you are seeing.
    Windows installs a fallback EFI executable and Debian doesn't.
    The rationale is that every OS would overwrite each others
    "removable" EFI executable.
    Best would be if your BIOS was preserving boot entries across upgrades
    (BIOS flashing).

    Please do not hesitate to reach out if we can help you test things.

    Kind regards,
    Daniel

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  • From Alvin Huang@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 7 12:40:02 2021
    XPost: linux.debian.user

    Hi Daniel,

    Thanks for your explanation. I$B!G(Bll try to generate by manual and if I have any further question I$B!G(Bll let you know.
    Have a nice day!

    BR,
    Tel : 886-2-7745 5793
    Alvin Huang

    $B4s7o<T(B: Daniel Lange [mailto:DLange@debian.org]
    $B4s7oF|4|(B: Thursday, October 7, 2021 5:45 PM
    $BZ@7o<T(B: Alvin Huang
    $BI{K\(B: debian-project@lists.debian.org; May Tseng; Jasmine Kang; debian-user@lists.debian.org; Steve McIntyre
    $B<g;](B: Re: $B2sJ$(B: Debian boot entry won't generated after flash BIOS.

    Hi Alvin,

    thank you very much for reaching out to Debian with this issue.

    Am 07.10.21 um 11:18 schrieb Alvin Huang:
    Beside the generate boot entry by manual. Does Debian will generate the
    boot entry automatic when the original boot entry disappeared? Because I$B!G(Bm confused the problem is cause by BIOS or Debian.

    Kibi (Cyril Brulebois) mentioned https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI#Force_grub-efi_installation_to_the_removable_media_path<https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI#Force_grub-efi_installation_to_the_removable_media_path>
    during a discussion on IRC we had about your mail.

    I assume this wiki page details the issue you are seeing.
    Windows installs a fallback EFI executable and Debian doesn't.
    The rationale is that every OS would overwrite each others
    "removable" EFI executable.
    Best would be if your BIOS was preserving boot entries across upgrades
    (BIOS flashing).

    Please do not hesitate to reach out if we can help you test things.

    Kind regards,
    Daniel

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    </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I$B!G(Bll try to
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    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">Tel : 886-2-7745 5793<o:p></o:p></span></p>
    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-TW">Alvin Huang<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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    <b><span lang="ZH-TW">$BZ@7o<T(B</span>:</b> Alvin Huang<br>
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    <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Alvin,<br>

    thank you very much for reaching out to Debian with this issue.<br>

    Am 07.10.21 um 11:18 schrieb Alvin Huang:<br>
    &gt; Beside the generate boot entry by manual. Does Debian will generate the <br>
    &gt; boot entry automatic when the original boot entry disappeared? Because <br>
    &gt; I$B!G(Bm confused the problem is cause by BIOS or Debian.<br>

    Kibi (Cyril Brulebois) mentioned<br>
    <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI#Force_grub-efi_installation_to_the_removable_media_path">https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI#Force_grub-efi_installation_to_the_removable_media_path</a><br>
    during a discussion on IRC we had about your mail.<br>

    I assume this wiki page details the issue you are seeing.<br>
    Windows installs a fallback EFI executable and Debian doesn't.<br>
    The rationale is that every OS would overwrite each others<br> &quot;removable&quot; EFI executable.<br>
    Best would be if your BIOS was preserving boot entries across upgrades<br> (BIOS flashing).<br>

    Please do not hesitate to reach out if we can help you test things.<br>

    Kind regards,<br>
    Daniel<o:p></o:p></p>
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  • From Steve McIntyre@21:1/5 to Daniel Lange on Thu Oct 7 16:50:01 2021
    XPost: linux.debian.user

    Hi all!

    On Thu, Oct 07, 2021 at 11:44:43AM +0200, Daniel Lange wrote:
    Hi Alvin,

    thank you very much for reaching out to Debian with this issue.

    Am 07.10.21 um 11:18 schrieb Alvin Huang:
    Beside the generate boot entry by manual. Does Debian will generate theboot >> entry automatic when the original boot entry disappeared? BecauseI’m
    confused the problem is cause by BIOS or Debian.

    Kibi (Cyril Brulebois) mentioned >https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI#Force_grub-efi_installation_to_the_removable_media_path
    during a discussion on IRC we had about your mail.

    I assume this wiki page details the issue you are seeing.
    Windows installs a fallback EFI executable and Debian doesn't.
    The rationale is that every OS would overwrite each others
    "removable" EFI executable.

    Correct, that's exactly the logic we followed there.

    Best would be if your BIOS was preserving boot entries across upgrades
    (BIOS flashing).

    Absolutely.

    --
    Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve@einval.com “Changing random stuff until your program works is bad coding
    practice, but if you do it fast enough it’s Machine Learning.”
    -- https://twitter.com/manisha72617183

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