I hope that you are doing well. My name is Zayd. I am currently in
the midst of a career change. A couple of years ago, I discovered
Linux and realize that I have a passion for it. I have already
completed my Bachelors degree. I recently also completed an
Introduction to Linux course through the Linux Foundation. I was
looking at different jobs and realized there are many different
Linux Engineer positions available. I, however, do not have the
necessary experience and qualifications. This is something that I
would like to pursue and was wondering if you can give me
information about pursuing a career in Linux.
I enjoy and use Debian but I wasn’t sure who to get in touch with
this. If you do not have the information, can you point me in the
direction of someone either at Debian or elsewhere who could help me
learn how to get into a career with Linux Administration or Software Development geared towards Linux. Thank you and best wishes!
I hope that you are doing well. My name is Zayd. I am currently in the midst of a career change. A couple of years ago, I discovered Linux and realize that I have a passion for it. I have already completed my Bachelors degree. I recently also completedan Introduction to Linux course through the Linux Foundation. I was looking at different jobs and realized there are many different Linux Engineer positions available. I, however, do not have the necessary experience and qualifications. This is something
Hello,--
I hope that you are doing well. My name is Zayd. I am currently in
the midst of a career change. A couple of years ago, I discovered
Linux and realize that I have a passion for it. I have already
completed my Bachelors degree. I recently also completed an
Introduction to Linux course through the Linux Foundation. I was
looking at different jobs and realized there are many different Linux Engineer positions available. I, however, do not have the necessary experience and qualifications. This is something that I would like to
pursue and was wondering if you can give me information about
pursuing a career in Linux. I enjoy and use Debian but I wasn’t sure
who to get in touch with this. If you do not have the information,
can you point me in the direction of someone either at Debian or
elsewhere who could help me learn how to get into a career with Linux Administration or Software Development geared towards Linux. Thank
you and best wishes!
Sincerely,
Zayd
On Aug 4, 2021, at 3:09 PM, Onildo R Ribeiro - Pessoal <onildoricardo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Zayd, how are you doing?
Unless you are already working in some company it is very
difficult for some recruiter believes you only in your words and
feeling about linux. I suggest you to be cerified with Comptia Linux+
or LPI-1, 2 and 3 and after you get those certs you apply to a lot of
jobs which requires linux knowledge. Unfortunately, the market is cruel
and won't believe you. Peharps you have good knlowledge but if you have
the ceritifcations it becomes easier to find your lovely job,
On Wed, 2021-08-04 at 05:46 -0400, Zayd Ahmed wrote:
Hello,--
I hope that you are doing well. My name is Zayd. I am currently in
the midst of a career change. A couple of years ago, I discovered
Linux and realize that I have a passion for it. I have already
completed my Bachelors degree. I recently also completed an
Introduction to Linux course through the Linux Foundation. I was
looking at different jobs and realized there are many different Linux
Engineer positions available. I, however, do not have the necessary
experience and qualifications. This is something that I would like to
pursue and was wondering if you can give me information about
pursuing a career in Linux. I enjoy and use Debian but I wasn’t sure
who to get in touch with this. If you do not have the information,
can you point me in the direction of someone either at Debian or
elsewhere who could help me learn how to get into a career with Linux
Administration or Software Development geared towards Linux. Thank
you and best wishes!
Sincerely,
Zayd
Att
Onildo
When I originally sent this message I just saw the contact information on the Debian website and didn’t realize that this was a chain email.
Any email to this or that address will end up on a public mailing
list, visible to the whole world. Do not post any private information
to that address.
Hello everyone for the responses and I appreciate the help. When I originally sent this message I just saw the contact information on the Debian website and didn’t realize that this was a chain email. I was
just looking to speak with someone at Debian that could answer my
question but it seems there is no actual organization at Debian like
other enterprise Linux distros. I contacted Canonical, Red Hat, and
SUSE and it seems they have trainings but those are more enterprise
Linux distributions. Was just wondering if there was a path to having
a career in Linux while focusing on Debian but you probably have to
work with one of those enterprise organizations in order to find a
career.
I suggest to put *bold* warning signs on the top page(s), where such
email addresses appear:
Dears,
On 2021-08-04 20:09, Zayd Ahmed wrote:
When I originally sent this message I just saw the contact
information on the Debian website and didn’t realize that this was
a chain email.
I wonder, if we should point out more clearly, that certain email
addresses on our website point to public mailing lists, therefore no
privacy can be provided. The term "mailing list" is well-known among
us and explained in wikipedia etc., but not everybody understands
its implications.
I suggest to put *bold* warning signs on the top page(s), where such
email addresses appear:
Any email to this or that address will end up on a public mailing
list, visible to the whole world. Do not post any private
information to that address.
Cheers
On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 3:28 PM Zayd Ahmed wrote:
I hope that you are doing well. My name is Zayd. I am currently in themidst of a career change. A couple of years ago, I discovered Linux and realize that I have a passion for it. I have already completed my Bachelors degree. I recently also completed an Introduction to Linux course through
the Linux Foundation. I was looking at different jobs and realized there
are many different Linux Engineer positions available. I, however, do not have the necessary experience and qualifications. This is something that I would like to pursue and was wondering if you can give me information about pursuing a career in Linux. I enjoy and use Debian but I wasn’t sure who to get in touch with this. If you do not have the information, can you point
me in the direction of someone either at Debian or elsewhere who could help me learn how to get into a career with Linux Administration or Software Development geared towards Linux. Thank you and best wishes!
The best option is to pick a job that you would like to have. The
debian-jobs mailing list, as well as the FOSSjobs site and the links
on the FOSSjobs wiki are useful sources of Linux and FLOSS related
jobs. Then review the requirements for the positions you are
interested in, start learning the skills needed and do work on the
related projects as a volunteer in your spare time. Eventually you
will have a track record of relevant experience that will be enough to
apply for the jobs you are interested in.
https://www.fossjobs.net/
https://github.com/fossjobs/fossjobs/wiki/resources
--
bye,
pabs
https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
Quoting Zayd Ahmed (2021-08-04 22:09:47)
Hello everyone for the responses and I appreciate the help. When I originally sent this message I just saw the contact information on the Debian website and didn’t realize that this was a chain email. I was
just looking to speak with someone at Debian that could answer my
question but it seems there is no actual organization at Debian like
other enterprise Linux distros. I contacted Canonical, Red Hat, and
SUSE and it seems they have trainings but those are more enterprise
Linux distributions. Was just wondering if there was a path to having
a career in Linux while focusing on Debian but you probably have to
work with one of those enterprise organizations in order to find a
career.
You wanted to talk about your options for earning money with Debian, and
you contacted us at the proper place: This mailinglist _is_ where we
talk together about non-technical parts of developing Debian which
includes how we attract new developers.
To answer your question: Yes, there are several paths to make a living
from your passion with Debian, besides taking a job with an enterprise company and hope that they will let you spend some of "their" time to
focus on Debian.
One approach is to become an independent self-employed contractor,
taking smaller jobs at multiple companies (which will then more often be smaller companies that don't need you full time). That's what I have
done for the past 25 years, and I know I am not the only one.
Freedom is simple but not easy.
Easier (although not super easy: life is not super easy) is - as you
sort-of indicate yourself - to ask employment departments of enterprise companies if they want to cover your living costs and tell you what to
do (and then hope that they will give you tasks related to your passions
for Debian).
Simpler is to live out your passion, and then try find someone
appreciating that work of yours and willing to cover your living costs.
But then more complex to operate like that - e.g. how to survive periods
of having little or no income.
Personally, my main approach to stay free to work on my passions has
been to reduce living costs: It is often cheaper (but maybe less fun, if
you want a social life in meatspace) to live in the country side than in larger cities. If is cheaper (but less comfortable) to live in a room
than in an apartment or a house. Avoid debt: banks want their money
back, and if they cannot have that in a steady flow then they charge
extra. None of that is specific to Debian, however - sorry if I am
pointing out things already obvious to you.
I wish you the best of luck, whichever path you choose to take - and
welcome you to ask questions here again.
You might also discuss more casually at our various IRC channels.
Kind regards,
- Jonas
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That is really awesome and my mindset is similar. It’s just that there
are sometimes cultural pressures and such so I’m just trying to figure
out a way to pursue my passions, learn what I am interested in
practically while making the money I need in the mean time. Awesome to
have met someone that has a similar mindset and really inspiring to
hear that you have been able to make it work. How did you go about
building your knowledge?
I’ve just tried different things on Linux and completed An
Introductory certification through the Linux foundation. I’m
comfortable with the basics of how to operate Debian and other distros
but want to learn more. I’m most comfortable with apt and Debian based systems at this point.
That is really helpful that you point out that you’re basically a freelancer and that you’ve been able to make it work. I wasn’t sure if that was possible and up to this point was assuming that you just had
to work for a big company in order to make the money you need and then
do various projects on the side.
I respect your dedication to the hustle though good sir
On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 18:29 Zayd <zayd.ahmed92@gmail.com> wrote:
That makes sense. For me I want to know everything I can and solve my own
problems and do projects but I do think that I want to make something so
that I can afford what I need and then also maybe help to support projects >> in the community. So I I have my interests and passions but also want to
make some money. So I sort of want to do both. Just trying to manage that
if that makes sense. So I basically like open source and Debian because of >> the freedom it offers but see them as both sort of existing. Idealism and
ethics and money making so the best thing to do is maybe just to have a
limit on business practices. And living and learning so if I gain more
insight and find a better way then I’ll try and do that lol
On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 17:29 Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> wrote:
Quoting Zayd (2021-08-05 21:26:03)
That is really awesome and my mindset is similar. It’s just that there >>> > are sometimes cultural pressures and such so I’m just trying to figure >>> > out a way to pursue my passions, learn what I am interested in
practically while making the money I need in the mean time. Awesome to >>> > have met someone that has a similar mindset and really inspiring to
hear that you have been able to make it work. How did you go about
building your knowledge?
Like Paul Wise also suggested you to do, I did a lot of volunteer work.
I also offered my services at a very low price until I grew confident
that I was worth more.
I’ve just tried different things on Linux and completed An
Introductory certification through the Linux foundation. I’m
comfortable with the basics of how to operate Debian and other distros >>> > but want to learn more. I’m most comfortable with apt and Debian based >>> > systems at this point.
Training courses and certifications are nice, but experience is better:
Your future employer or client don't care if you learned your lessons at >>> a well-paid job or through volunteer work, but they do care if you have
_experience_ or only know theoretically how to solve a task.
That is really helpful that you point out that you’re basically a
freelancer and that you’ve been able to make it work. I wasn’t sure if
that was possible and up to this point was assuming that you just had
to work for a big company in order to make the money you need and then >>> > do various projects on the side.
Certainly possible, but not glamorous. I do my hobby full-time, and
earn about half of the standard wage in my country for a taxi driver or
garbage man.
To me, money is nice but also a distraction: I strongly prefer the
freedom of working on things that I value and enjoy.
- Jonas
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Quoting Zayd (2021-08-05 21:26:03)
That is really awesome and my mindset is similar. It’s just that there are sometimes cultural pressures and such so I’m just trying to figure out a way to pursue my passions, learn what I am interested in
practically while making the money I need in the mean time. Awesome to
have met someone that has a similar mindset and really inspiring to
hear that you have been able to make it work. How did you go about
building your knowledge?
Like Paul Wise also suggested you to do, I did a lot of volunteer work.
I also offered my services at a very low price until I grew confident
that I was worth more.
I’ve just tried different things on Linux and completed An
Introductory certification through the Linux foundation. I’m
comfortable with the basics of how to operate Debian and other distros
but want to learn more. I’m most comfortable with apt and Debian based systems at this point.
Training courses and certifications are nice, but experience is better:
Your future employer or client don't care if you learned your lessons at
a well-paid job or through volunteer work, but they do care if you have _experience_ or only know theoretically how to solve a task.
That is really helpful that you point out that you’re basically a freelancer and that you’ve been able to make it work. I wasn’t sure if that was possible and up to this point was assuming that you just had
to work for a big company in order to make the money you need and then
do various projects on the side.
Certainly possible, but not glamorous. I do my hobby full-time, and
earn about half of the standard wage in my country for a taxi driver or garbage man.
To me, money is nice but also a distraction: I strongly prefer the
freedom of working on things that I value and enjoy.
- Jonas
--
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That makes sense. For me I want to know everything I can and solve my
own problems and do projects but I do think that I want to make
something so that I can afford what I need and then also maybe help to support projects in the community. So I I have my interests and
passions but also want to make some money. So I sort of want to do
both. Just trying to manage that if that makes sense.
So I basically like open source and Debian because of the freedom it
offers but see them as both sort of existing. Idealism and ethics and
money making so the best thing to do is maybe just to have a limit on business practices. And living and learning so if I gain more insight
and find a better way then I’ll try and do that lol
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How did you basically start learning or was it just a process of trial
and error?
How did you basically start learning or was it just a process of trial
and error?
> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Quoting Zayd (2021-08-06 00:30:58)<br>> How did you basically start learning or was it just a process of trial<br>> anderror?<br><br>I did not attend any formal school or training courses, if that's what<br>you mean.<br><br>If you mean what drove me, then I have always felt that computers lacked<br>meaning unless they had some practical use in the real world. I
Il ven 6 ago 2021, 17:06 Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> ha scritto:[snip]
[ in reply to questions asked privately... ]
I don't know any "real" programming language like C or C++ or Rust. My scripting language of choice is Perl, and I also grok shell and make
(yes, that's a language). For other languages I can juggle patches,
needed for the (far too many²) packages I maintain in Debian.
I live in Denmark, where monthly income is DKK 30.000 for a garbage man
and DKK 25.861 for a taxi driver, according to some³ sources: https://www.dekra.dk/blog/lastbil/hvad-tjener-en-skraldemand https://www.dekra.dk/blog/taxa/hvad-tjener-en-taxachauffoer
My accounting is at https://source.jones.dk/ledger/tree/data with usage notes at https://source.redpill.dk/accounting/tree/USE.md
*Red pill r*efers to (becoming enlightened to) the truth about reality, especially a truth that is difficult to accept or exposes disillusions.
Online, *red pill* is especially used among anti-feminist <https://www.dictionary.com/browse/feminism> and white supremacist <https://www.dictionary.com/browse/white-supremacy> groups to refer to "waking up" to the truth that women and liberal politics are oppressing men and white people.
https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/red-pill/
On Aug 7, 2021, at 8:00 PM, Agata Erminia Pennisi <agataerminiapennisi@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Peter,
I imagined and hoped he was referring to the Matrix.
But in my life I have suffered from racism, so I preferred to share the meaning assigned to that term. That's all.
Red pill refers to (becoming enlightened to) the truth about reality, especially a truth that is difficult to accept or exposes disillusions.are oppressing men and white people.
Online, red pill is especially used among anti-feminist <https://www.dictionary.com/browse/feminism> and white supremacist <https://www.dictionary.com/browse/white-supremacy> groups to refer to "waking up" to the truth that women and liberal politics
https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/red-pill/ <https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/red-pill/>
*Red pill r*efers to (becoming enlightened to) the truth about
reality, especially a truth that is difficult to accept or exposes disillusions.
Sicilians in Italy are not considered Italians.
On Aug 8, 2021, at 12:00 AM, Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> wrote:
Quoting Agata Erminia Pennisi (2021-08-06 23:56:10)
*Red pill r*efers to (becoming enlightened to) the truth about
reality, especially a truth that is difficult to accept or exposes
disillusions.
Funny you should emphasize redpill in the context of how to make a
living off of Free software, because it is at the heart of my work.
My use of the term is summarized here¹: https://web.archive.org/web/20190811015333/http://support.redpill.dk/redpill/
In my use, a "Redpill" is a standardized way of sharing ICT resources
across multiple organisations, without the need for sharing secrets
(access codes or content).
It grew from my strong interest in long-term sustainability of my work. When at the beginning working independently I mostly did tuning of desktop/laptop systems, I realized that it became quite repetitive for
me, without being easy to codify the steps I made. I noticed the same
when moving to maintaining servers and networks, and wanted to try standardize some of the structures, in a modular way to still serve each client uniquely yet do so with reusable components.
My first steady client paying me a monthly subscription fee (established after 1-2 years of charging by the hour) was a small business
university, but also a related business consultancy firm and a small
team of volunteer activism consultants in their backyard. I developed a computer setup for them all, called "Homebase", and slowly generalized
that into something reusable for other groups of organizations - called "Redpill".
Now, 25 years later, Homebase still exists (see the dusty documentation
at https://support.homebase.dk/ and a newer draft at https://docs.homebase.dk/ ) but the business university recently decided
to switch to a Microsoft solution so its future is uncertain.
One other experimental Redpill exists, consisting of my own network also used by my life partner in her business as a graphics designer using
purely Free software, a server run by another Debian developer and
friend of mine, and another friend of mine in couple of his projects on
ICT education and eco activism in Germany.
My hope is to introduce redpill as packages in Debian, but I am not
quite there yet. If anyone wants to help, please to get in touch :-)
Kind regards,
- Jonas
¹ I reference an archive.org snapshot both because that main web page (which is also what you would be redirected to if you went to https://redpill.dk/ ) is not currently online, and because it might
interest you for how long that web page has existed.
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On Nov 23, 2021, at 10:18 AM, Agata Erminia Pennisi <agataerminiapennisi@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for your sharing, but this is an excerpt from a closed discussion, which also does not include my complete answers. Discussion that I do not intend to open again.
Il mar 23 nov 2021, 17:01 Zayd Ahmed <zayd.ahmed92@gmail.com <mailto:zayd.ahmed92@gmail.com>> ha scritto:
Responding to these messages after a long time but I took a bootcamp and hope to pursue further education in order to learn more computer science so then I can hopefully find a career in the field!
On Aug 8, 2021, at 12:00 AM, Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk <mailto:dr@jones.dk>> wrote:
Quoting Agata Erminia Pennisi (2021-08-06 23:56:10)
*Red pill r*efers to (becoming enlightened to) the truth about
reality, especially a truth that is difficult to accept or exposes
disillusions.
Funny you should emphasize redpill in the context of how to make a
living off of Free software, because it is at the heart of my work.
My use of the term is summarized here¹: https://web.archive.org/web/20190811015333/http://support.redpill.dk/redpill/ <https://web.archive.org/web/20190811015333/http://support.redpill.dk/redpill/>
In my use, a "Redpill" is a standardized way of sharing ICT resources across multiple organisations, without the need for sharing secrets (access codes or content).
It grew from my strong interest in long-term sustainability of my work. When at the beginning working independently I mostly did tuning of desktop/laptop systems, I realized that it became quite repetitive for
me, without being easy to codify the steps I made. I noticed the same when moving to maintaining servers and networks, and wanted to try standardize some of the structures, in a modular way to still serve each client uniquely yet do so with reusable components.
My first steady client paying me a monthly subscription fee (established after 1-2 years of charging by the hour) was a small business
university, but also a related business consultancy firm and a small
team of volunteer activism consultants in their backyard. I developed a computer setup for them all, called "Homebase", and slowly generalized that into something reusable for other groups of organizations - called "Redpill".
Now, 25 years later, Homebase still exists (see the dusty documentation
at https://support.homebase.dk/ <https://support.homebase.dk/> and a newer draft at
https://docs.homebase.dk/ <https://docs.homebase.dk/> ) but the business university recently decided
to switch to a Microsoft solution so its future is uncertain.
One other experimental Redpill exists, consisting of my own network also used by my life partner in her business as a graphics designer using purely Free software, a server run by another Debian developer and
friend of mine, and another friend of mine in couple of his projects on ICT education and eco activism in Germany.
My hope is to introduce redpill as packages in Debian, but I am not
quite there yet. If anyone wants to help, please to get in touch :-)
Kind regards,
- Jonas
¹ I reference an archive.org <http://archive.org/> snapshot both because that main web page
(which is also what you would be redirected to if you went to https://redpill.dk/ <https://redpill.dk/> ) is not currently online, and because it might
interest you for how long that web page has existed.
--
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* Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ <http://dr.jones.dk/>
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Responding to these messages after a long time but I took a bootcamp and
hope to pursue further education in order to learn more computer science so then I can hopefully find a career in the field!
On Aug 8, 2021, at 12:00 AM, Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> wrote:
Quoting Agata Erminia Pennisi (2021-08-06 23:56:10)
*Red pill r*efers to (becoming enlightened to) the truth about
reality, especially a truth that is difficult to accept or exposes
disillusions.
Funny you should emphasize redpill in the context of how to make a
living off of Free software, because it is at the heart of my work.
My use of the term is summarized here¹:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190811015333/http://support.redpill.dk/redpill/
In my use, a "Redpill" is a standardized way of sharing ICT resources across multiple organisations, without the need for sharing secrets
(access codes or content).
It grew from my strong interest in long-term sustainability of my work. When at the beginning working independently I mostly did tuning of desktop/laptop systems, I realized that it became quite repetitive for
me, without being easy to codify the steps I made. I noticed the same
when moving to maintaining servers and networks, and wanted to try standardize some of the structures, in a modular way to still serve each client uniquely yet do so with reusable components.
My first steady client paying me a monthly subscription fee (established after 1-2 years of charging by the hour) was a small business
university, but also a related business consultancy firm and a small
team of volunteer activism consultants in their backyard. I developed a computer setup for them all, called "Homebase", and slowly generalized
that into something reusable for other groups of organizations - called "Redpill".
Now, 25 years later, Homebase still exists (see the dusty documentationdecided
at https://support.homebase.dk/ and a newer draft at https://docs.homebase.dk/ ) but the business university recently
to switch to a Microsoft solution so its future is uncertain.
One other experimental Redpill exists, consisting of my own network also used by my life partner in her business as a graphics designer using
purely Free software, a server run by another Debian developer and
friend of mine, and another friend of mine in couple of his projects on
ICT education and eco activism in Germany.
My hope is to introduce redpill as packages in Debian, but I am not
quite there yet. If anyone wants to help, please to get in touch :-)
Kind regards,
- Jonas
¹ I reference an archive.org snapshot both because that main web page (which is also what you would be redirected to if you went to https://redpill.dk/ ) is not currently online, and because it might interest you for how long that web page has existed.
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Lol no problem yeah sorry I had asked for some help on here a while
ago breaking into the open source/development stuff and there were a
lot of answers. So yeah sort of fell of at some point. Maybe will look through this later and see if there was anything specific that I
missed. Good luck with whatever you’re doing!
I can hopefully find a career in the field!
No "ownership" on my part.
I do not wish to be directly or indirectly involved in discussions
extracted ad libitum. That's all.
Hi Zayd,
Quoting Zayd Ahmed (2021-11-23 18:21:38)
Lol no problem yeah sorry I had asked for some help on here a while
ago breaking into the open source/development stuff and there were a
lot of answers. So yeah sort of fell of at some point. Maybe will look through this later and see if there was anything specific that I
missed. Good luck with whatever you’re doing!
Hapy to hear from you again.
You are most welcome to continue the conversation.
When you get back to an old conversation after longer time, it can help
if you reply to the part of the thread you were more directly involved yourself, instead of a subthread that others may feel they have
"ownership" on and consider "closed" (as happened here).
Kind regards,
- Jonas
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Quoting Agata Erminia Pennisi (2021-11-23 20:00:51)
No "ownership" on my part.
Sorry for misrepresenting your intent.
I do not wish to be directly or indirectly involved in discussions extracted ad libitum. That's all.
I urge you to simply refrain from posting to the thread if you wish to
no longer take part in it.
Posting to tell others not to post will involve you more, not less.
Kind regards,
- Jonas
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I'm sorry for you, next time read all messages before replying or
quoting. That's all.
Quoting Agata Erminia Pennisi (2021-11-23 21:04:59)
I'm sorry for you, next time read all messages before replying or
quoting. That's all.
In fact that was not all, only one part of my reply, but... oh well.
- Jonas
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