Hi Luc,

Luc Castermans - 26.02.21, 12:12:48 CET:

Upstream Plasma 5.21.1 was released Feb 23, yesterday I installed it
from Experimental. A big wow and even a bigger thanks to all who
made this possible. I am tempted to mention names, don´t do that in
order not to disappoint people. Thank you community!

Thanks for letting us know.

What exact command did you use?

I already installed KDE Frameworks 5.79 from Experimental on top of
Devuan Ceres – which is basically very similar to Debian Sid, just
without Systemd by default without having to deal with some…
uncooperative Debian maintainers (none from the Debian Qt/KDE team, midn
you).

However… I am certainly do not like to use the approach Sedat used initially, which is:

RELEASE="experimental" ; LC_ALL=C apt-get dist-upgrade -V -t $RELEASE

Cause it would upgrade too much.

I instead did so with meta packages for Plasma, yet it still pulled
libglib from experimental and things did not work as expected, maybe due
to a partial upgrade of Plasma packages. Back then I downgraded
everything to 5.20 again and reverted all the other package upgrades to
Debian experimental as well.

So I would like to just install Plasma 5.21.1 from experimental, but
that complete, without upgrading unrelated packages to experimental as
well.

Any aptitude / apt foo magic recommendation? Otherwise I try to come up
with something myself.

Best,
--
Martin

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Upstream Plasma 5.21.1 was released Feb 23, yesterday I installed it from Experimental. A big wow and even a bigger thanks to all who made this possible. I am tempted to mention names, don´t do that in order not to disappoint people. Thank you community!


Besturingssysteem: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma-versie: 5.21.1
Versie van KDE-Frameworks: 5.79.0
Qt-versie: 5.15.2
Kernel-versie: 5.10.0-3-amd64
Type OS: 64-bit
Grafisch platform: X11
Processors: 4 × Intel® Core™ i5-4200U CPU @ 1.60GHz
Geheugen: 7,2 GiB RAM
Grafische processor: Mesa DRI Intel® HD Graphics 4400



--
Luc Castermans
mailto:luc.castermans@gmail.com

<div dir="ltr"><div>Upstream Plasma 5.21.1 was released Feb 23, yesterday I installed it from Experimental.    A big wow and even a bigger thanks to all who made this possible. I am tempted to mention names, don´t do that in order not to disappoint
people. Thank you community! <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Besturingssysteem: Debian GNU/Linux<br>KDE Plasma-versie: 5.21.1<br>Versie van KDE-Frameworks: 5.79.0<br>Qt-versie: 5.15.2<br>Kernel-versie: 5.10.0-3-amd64<br>Type OS: 64-bit<br>
Grafisch platform: X11<br>Processors: 4 × Intel® Core™ i5-4200U CPU @ 1.60GHz<br>Geheugen: 7,2 GiB RAM<br>Grafische processor: Mesa DRI Intel® HD Graphics 4400</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-
smartmail="gmail_signature">Luc Castermans<br>mailto:<a href="mailto:luc.castermans@gmail.com" target="_blank">luc.castermans@gmail.com</a></div></div>

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Hi Martin

My answer below depends on the starting point at your PC.

I retrieved the list of installed plasma related packages using something
like:

dpkg -l | fgrep 5.2xy | awk '{ print $2 }' > toupgrade
[As my PC was on 5.21.0 I could use 5.21.0 in the fgrep, if you're at 5.20
you should use that of course.]

and then

apt install -t experimental `cat toupgrade`

Regards,

Luc

Op vr 26 feb. 2021 om 12:30 schreef Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de

:

Hi Luc,

Luc Castermans - 26.02.21, 12:12:48 CET:

Upstream Plasma 5.21.1 was released Feb 23, yesterday I installed it
from Experimental. A big wow and even a bigger thanks to all who
made this possible. I am tempted to mention names, don´t do that in
order not to disappoint people. Thank you community!

Thanks for letting us know.

What exact command did you use?

I already installed KDE Frameworks 5.79 from Experimental on top of
Devuan Ceres – which is basically very similar to Debian Sid, just
without Systemd by default without having to deal with some…
uncooperative Debian maintainers (none from the Debian Qt/KDE team, midn you).

However… I am certainly do not like to use the approach Sedat used initially, which is:

RELEASE="experimental" ; LC_ALL=C apt-get dist-upgrade -V -t $RELEASE

Cause it would upgrade too much.

I instead did so with meta packages for Plasma, yet it still pulled
libglib from experimental and things did not work as expected, maybe due
to a partial upgrade of Plasma packages. Back then I downgraded
everything to 5.20 again and reverted all the other package upgrades to Debian experimental as well.

So I would like to just install Plasma 5.21.1 from experimental, but
that complete, without upgrading unrelated packages to experimental as
well.

Any aptitude / apt foo magic recommendation? Otherwise I try to come up
with something myself.

Best,
--
Martin

--
Luc Castermans
mailto:luc.castermans@gmail.com

<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Martin</div><div><br></div><div>My answer below depends on the starting point at your PC.<br></div><div><br></div><div></div><div>I retrieved the list of installed plasma related packages using something like:</div><div><br></div><

dpkg -l | fgrep 5.2xy  | awk &#39;{ print $2 }&#39; &gt; toupgrade</div><div>[As my PC was on 5.21.0 I could use 5.21.0  in the fgrep, if you&#39;re at 5.20 you should use that of course.]</div><div><br></div><div>and then<br></div><div><br></div><
apt install -t experimental `cat toupgrade`</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Luc<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op vr 26 feb. 2021 om 12:30 schreef Martin Steigerwald &lt;<a

href="mailto:martin@lichtvoll.de">martin@lichtvoll.de</a>&gt;:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Luc

Am Freitag, 26. Februar 2021, 13:11 schrieb Norbert Preining:

RELEASE="experimental" ; LC_ALL=C apt-get dist-upgrade -V -t $RELEASE
Cause it would upgrade too much.

Agreed, I strongly suggest NOT doing this.

Any aptitude / apt foo magic recommendation? Otherwise I try to come up with something myself.

Many options, I usually do
aptitude -t experimental
and then select all the plasma etc related packages, that normally works nicely.

I use the command:
aptitude install '~i ~V5\.21\.1' -t experimental
for Version 5.21.1.
apt should work with the same options, but I didn't test it.

Reinhard

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RELEASE="experimental" ; LC_ALL=C apt-get dist-upgrade -V -t $RELEASE
Cause it would upgrade too much.

Agreed, I strongly suggest NOT doing this.

Any aptitude / apt foo magic recommendation? Otherwise I try to come up
with something myself.

Many options, I usually do
aptitude -t experimental
and then select all the plasma etc related packages, that normally works nicely.

Or you can use my OBS repositories which are the same packages with ~np1
as version, but targeting unstable, so updates should be more smooth.

Best

Norbert

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Fujitsu Research Labs + IFMGA Guide + TU Wien + TeX Live + Debian Dev
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Hi Reinhard,

Reinhard Karcher - 26.02.21, 13:31:09 CET:

Am Freitag, 26. Februar 2021, 13:11 schrieb Norbert Preining:

[…]

Any aptitude / apt foo magic recommendation? Otherwise I try to
come up with something myself.

Many options, I usually do

aptitude -t experimental

and then select all the plasma etc related packages, that normally
works nicely.

I use the command:
aptitude install '~i ~V5\.21\.1' -t experimental
for Version 5.21.1.
apt should work with the same options, but I didn't test it.

Thanks, Luc, Norbert and Reinhard!

I went with this one. It worked out of the box.

So far 5.21.1 appears to be working just fine.

I wondered about having to specify from which version to which version
to upgrade, but I see now, if the version number is unique enough I can
get away with just specifying the target version. I like that approach.
Of course its still important to watch the output for any package that
should not be in there.

Have a great weekend,
--
Martin

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Dnia piątek, 26 lutego 2021 12:12:48 CET Luc Castermans pisze:

Upstream Plasma 5.21.1 was released Feb 23, yesterday I installed it from Experimental. A big wow and even a bigger thanks to all who made this possible. I am tempted to mention names, don´t do that in order not to disappoint people. Thank you
community!





Besturingssysteem: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma-versie: 5.21.1
Versie van KDE-Frameworks: 5.79.0
Qt-versie: 5.15.2
Kernel-versie: 5.10.0-3-amd64
Type OS: 64-bit
Grafisch platform: X11
Processors: 4 × Intel® Core™ i5-4200U CPU @ 1.60GHz
Geheugen: 7,2 GiB RAM
Grafische processor: Mesa DRI Intel® HD Graphics 4400




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Luc Castermans
mailto:luc.castermans@gmail.com


After upgrading KF and plasma from experimental in Debian testing alost everything is OK... but ;) I have problem wit search box in K-menu - only searches for programs. I have active plugin Last files (Ostatnie pliki), i can see last files in menu (
Places -> History -> Files/ Miejsca -> Historia -> Pliki), but searching with the search box doesn't work for me (the same problem with krunner). I did not notice any other problems.

Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.21.1
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.79.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-3-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 12 × AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Six-Core Processor
Memory: 15.6 GiB of RAM
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On Friday, February 26, 2021 1:04:08 PM CEST Luc Castermans wrote:

Hi Martin

My answer below depends on the starting point at your PC.

I retrieved the list of installed plasma related packages using something like:

dpkg -l | fgrep 5.2xy | awk '{ print $2 }' > toupgrade
[As my PC was on 5.21.0 I could use 5.21.0 in the fgrep, if you're at 5.20 you should use that of course.]

and then

apt install -t experimental `cat toupgrade`

Once the selected packages have been upgraded to experimental, the following line might be useful for the subsequent upgrades:

aptitude --target-release experimental install "?narrow(?installed, ?and(? archive(experimental), ?maintainer(debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org)))"

I can hardly say if it works well, because my system was already up to date.

Maybe it's an overkill, but the possibility to further select packages by the maintainer, and therefore easily narrowing to kde-qt packages, seems a good idea.

Regards,

Luc

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