what about adding a small hint to the release-notes,
describing a bit the new "firmware-installation"
mechanism via modalias, maybe with a link to the
new docs in the installation-guide, for those who
experience problems?
I would volunteer for working out a proposal, if wanted...
<varlistentry>
<term>Help with installation of firmware</term>
<listitem>
<para>
Since chances are getting higher, that users might need device
firmware installed to get their hardware running properly, the
installer has been improved to help with that.
A new mechanism has been implemented, which tries to detect - based
on a hardware ID -> firmware file mapping - if some of the installed
hardware needs firmware files to be installed, and installs them automatically in such case. <para></para>
This works out of the box, if you are using an inofficial installer
image with firmware included (see <ulink
url="https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/#firmware_nonfree">https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/#firmware_nonfree</ulink>).
When using an official installer image, you will most likely need to
enable the non-free component of the archive, when asked for that,
since most firmware packages are not DFSG-free and therefore not distributable via main. </para>
</listitem>
</varlistentry>
When using an official installer image, you will most likely need to
enable the non-free component of the archive, when asked for that.
On Tue, Aug 03, 2021 at 02:05:34PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
When using an official installer image, you will most likely need to
enable the non-free component of the archive, when asked for that.
I just have a comment on the term, and it's probably too late and too invasive, but anyway:
'official' and 'inofficial' are IMO the wrong terms here, it would be
better to call them what they are: Debian main/free installation
images and Debian main&non-free installation images.
As I see it, Debian does a release. Or a main release if you like to
call it more descriptive. And a non-free release. Calling that
non-free release 'inofficial' is IMO besides the point and non-helpful
if too many people need those.
And they need them, not because unofficial stuff is cool or better,
but because those non-free firmwares are included!
So, I'd call those images the "Debian main images" and the "Debian
main images with non-free firmwares".
But maybe besides being too late for this change, this change is also
not just editorial / a question of language, but a political stance.
But I also think naming things correctly is 'the right thing to do'
and part of the excellence we strive for. So, bookworm material maybe?
But maybe besides being too late for this change, this change is also
not just editorial / a question of language, but a political stance.
When using an official installer image, you will most likely need to enable the non-free component of the archive, when asked for that.
Do we prompt for such a thing? We offer loading firmware from external storage, which might or might not work due to lack of active support (#991771). As far as I understand from the code I looked at (#989863 and friends), if one chooses to look around for firmware files/packages,
non-free will be automatically enabled without a specific prompt about
that part. But then I was mainly making sure firmware-enabled images
would work better out of the scope.
'official' and 'inofficial' are IMO the wrong terms here, it would be better to call them what they are: Debian main/free installationAre you choosing to ignore SC#5 entirely? non-free isn't part of Debian.
images and Debian main&non-free installation images.
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