This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

Hi all,

I'm planning to do some changings to finally remove MS-DOS from the doc and make some unification regarding the different Windows versions.


A patch is attached.



Holger



--
Holger Wansing <hwansing@mailbox.org>
PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076

diff --git a/en/appendix/files.xml b/en/appendix/files.xml
index 63b44735c..0ec85aaa8 100644
--- a/en/appendix/files.xml
+++ b/en/appendix/files.xml
@@ -45,10 +45,10 @@ The most important device files are listed in the tables below.
<informaltable><tgroup cols="2"><tbody>
<row>
<entry><filename>ttyS0</filename></entry>
- <entry>Serial port 0, COM1 under MS-DOS</entry>
+ <entry>Serial port 0, also referred to as COM1</entry>
</row><row>
<entry><filename>ttyS1</filename></entry>
- <entry>Serial port 1, COM2 under MS-DOS</entry>
+ <entry>Serial port 1, also referred to as COM2</entry>
</row><row>
<entry><filename>psaux</filename></entry>
<entry>PS/2 mouse device</entry>
diff --git a/en/howto/installation-howto.xml b/en/howto/installation-howto.xml index 6e79c5d10..2e8cb763e 100644
--- a/en/howto/installation-howto.xml
+++ b/en/howto/installation-howto.xml
@@ -243,7 +243,7 @@ to autopartition, choose <guimenuitem>Manual</guimenuitem> from the menu.

</para><para arch="any-x86">

-If you have an existing DOS or Windows partition that you want to preserve, +If y

On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 10:03:34PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote:

Hi all,

I'm planning to do some changings to finally remove MS-DOS from the doc and >make some unification regarding the different Windows versions.

A patch is attached.

LGTM!


--
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve@einval.com Into the distance, a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Hello!

On Thu, 2023-08-03 at 22:03 +0200, Holger Wansing wrote:

--- a/en/preparing/needed-info.xml
+++ b/en/preparing/needed-info.xml
@@ -339,7 +339,7 @@ On Windows systems, the IDs for a device can be found in the Windows device
 manager on the tab <quote>details</quote>, where the vendor ID is prefixed with VEN_
 and the product ID is prefixed with DEV_.
 
-On Windows 7 systems, you have to select the property <quote>Hardware IDs</quote> in the
+On Windows 7/10 systems, you have to select the property <quote>Hardware IDs</quote> in the
 device manager's details tab to actually see the IDs, as they are not  displayed by default.

I would suggest just using the term "Windows" here so you don't have to keep updating it every time a new major release of Windows has been released.

Adrian

--
.''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
: :' : Debian Developer
`. `' Physicist
`- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Hi,

Am 3. August 2023 22:49:29 MESZ schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>:

Hello!

On Thu, 2023-08-03 at 22:03 +0200, Holger Wansing wrote:

 
-On Windows 7 systems, you have to select the property <quote>Hardware IDs</quote> in the
+On Windows 7/10 systems, you have to select the property <quote>Hardware IDs</quote> in the
 device manager's details tab to actually see the IDs, as they are not
 displayed by default.

I would suggest just using the term "Windows" here so you don't have to keep >updating it every time a new major release of Windows has been released.

I changed that into "On newer Windows systems, ..."

Thanks


Holger

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Hello Holger!

On Sun, 2023-08-06 at 10:48 +0200, Holger Wansing wrote:

Am 3. August 2023 22:49:29 MESZ schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>:

Hello!

On Thu, 2023-08-03 at 22:03 +0200, Holger Wansing wrote:

 
-On Windows 7 systems, you have to select the property <quote>Hardware IDs</quote> in the
+On Windows 7/10 systems, you have to select the property <quote>Hardware IDs</quote> in the
 device manager's details tab to actually see the IDs, as they are not  displayed by default.

I would suggest just using the term "Windows" here so you don't have to keep
updating it every time a new major release of Windows has been released.

I changed that into "On newer Windows systems, ..."

OK, that's better. Btw, while it's okay to remove references to MS-DOS, please make sure that the
semantics of a sentence is not altered. For example, it's still valid to call DOS partition labels
by their original name as by contrast newer hardware uses GPT partition labels, for example. Calling
the old DOS partioning scheme "Windows partitioning" would not be correct.

Thanks,
Adrian

--
.''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
: :' : Debian Developer
`. `' Physicist
`- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 12:15:35PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

OK, that's better. Btw, while it's okay to remove references to MS-DOS, please make sure that the
semantics of a sentence is not altered. For example, it's still valid to call DOS partition labels
by their original name as by contrast newer hardware uses GPT partition labels, for example. Calling
the old DOS partioning scheme "Windows partitioning" would not be correct.

Don't most partition tools call it MBR vs GPT partition tables? I suppose
some of them still call it DOS parttions.

--
Len Sorensen

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 06/08/2023 at 17:07, Lennart Sorensen wrote:

On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 12:15:35PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

For example, it's still valid to call DOS partition labels
by their original name as by contrast newer hardware uses GPT partition labels, for example. Calling
the old DOS partioning scheme "Windows partitioning" would not be correct.

Don't most partition tools call it MBR vs GPT partition tables? I suppose some of them still call it DOS partitions.

util-linux fdisk/cfdisk/sfdisk call it "dos".
parted and d-i/partman call it "msdos".
gdisk and gnome-disks call it "MBR".

So I usually call it DOS/MBR for clarity.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)