• Bug#992034: installation-guide: Include a note on how to change ini

    From Samuel Thibault@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 9 19:00:02 2021
    Matthew Vernon, le lun. 09 août 2021 17:35:46 +0100, a ecrit:
    On 09/08/2021 16:35, Samuel Thibault wrote:
    Matthew Vernon, le lun. 09 août 2021 16:19:03 +0100, a ecrit:
    I don't think adding a subsection at the bottom of "Using Individual Components" is really burdening the casual systemd user! We wouldn't say that a subsection on serial braille displays should be left out because it's
    a niche use case that burdens the casual user, would we?

    That's an entirely different thing.

    I'm not sure it's entirely different

    It is completely different. Using a Braille device is not a question of
    choice, but using the computer at all.

    Samuel

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  • From Andrew M.A. Cater@21:1/5 to Holger Wansing on Tue Aug 31 13:10:01 2021
    On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 12:19:11PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote:
    Hi,

    Justin Rye <justin.byam.rye@gmail.com> wrote (Fri, 27 Aug 2021 07:38:17 +0100):
    Holger Wansing <hwansing@mailbox.org> wrote:
    I wonder if "the easiest time to select an alternative init system is during the
    installation process" is correct English.

    Maybe better "the best time ... " ?

    Asking debian-l10n-english for advise.

    @debian-l10n-english:
    Hi all, could someone please comment on the merge request
    mentioned above?

    There's nothing wrong with the English of "the easiest time to do X is during Y"; "best" is also okay but asserts something different (which
    is slightly more a matter of subjective opinion).

    Ok.

    Rather than easiest / best, maybe use "most appropriate" or
    "most straightforward" since it can be quite hard afterwards.

    All best, as ever,

    Andy Cater


    Moreover, when thinking about this implementation, I'm quite uncomfortable with
    adding such paragraph into the "Using individual components" section, since this
    "change-init-system part" is no "installer component" like the others in this section (say: there is no 'change-init-system udeb').

    Therefore, I would be in favor of adding a separate section for such things as
    section 6.5 after the "Loading missing firmware" section, like this:



    ====snip==================================
    diff --git a/build/templates/docstruct.ent b/build/templates/docstruct.ent index dd3e8d273..81702c32d 100644
    --- a/build/templates/docstruct.ent
    +++ b/build/templates/docstruct.ent
    @@ -126,6 +126,8 @@
    <!ENTITY module-pkgsel.xml SYSTEM "##SRCPATH##/using-d-i/modules/pkgsel.xml">
    <!ENTITY loading-firmware.xml SYSTEM "##SRCPATH##/using-d-i/loading-firmware.xml">

    + <!ENTITY misc-adaptions.xml SYSTEM "##SRCPATH##/using-d-i/misc-adaptions.xml">
    +
    <!-- No longer used; should be removed after translation updates -->
    <!ENTITY module-mips-arcboot-installer.xml SYSTEM "##SRCPATH##/using-d-i/modules/mips/arcboot-installer.xml">
    <!ENTITY module-mipsel-colo-installer.xml SYSTEM "##SRCPATH##/using-d-i/modules/mipsel/colo-installer.xml">
    diff --git a/en/using-d-i/using-d-i.xml b/en/using-d-i/using-d-i.xml
    index 3561ced2d..fe9c4628e 100644
    --- a/en/using-d-i/using-d-i.xml
    +++ b/en/using-d-i/using-d-i.xml
    @@ -446,6 +446,7 @@ report installer software problems to &debian; developers later.

    &using-d-i-components.xml;
    &loading-firmware.xml;
    +&misc-adaptions.xml;

    </chapter>

    ====snap==================================


    Plus adding a new file en/using-d-i/misc-adaptions.xml:

    +<!-- retain these comments for translator revision tracking -->
    +<!-- $Id$ -->
    +
    + <sect1 id="misc-adaptions">
    + <title>Miscellaneous adaptions</title>
    +<para>
    +You may make custom adaptions of the installation process, to make it fit +your needs:
    +</para>
    +
    + <sect2><title>Installing an alternative init system</title>
    +<para>
    +&debian; uses systemd as its default init system. However, other init +systems (such as sysvinit and OpenRC) are supported, and the
    +easiest time to select an alternative init system is during the +installation process. For detailed instructions on how to do so,
    +please see the <ulink +url="https://wiki.debian.org/Init#Changing_the_init_system_-_at_installation_time">Init
    +page on the Debian wiki</ulink>.
    +</para>
    +
    + </sect2>
    + </sect1>




    @debian-l10n-english: How does this look like for you (especially the first part, since review for the second part has already been done) ?

    @debian-boot: any objections against this solution?



    Holger




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