Hello!


On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 04:45:24PM -0400, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:

Hello!

I had a chance to have a chat with doko at DC24 and one of the things that came out was this question:

"Are there packages in the DPT that aren't maintained by their uploaders and are kept in the team because other people fix bugs and do team uploads on them?"

Let's call these "stale uploaders".

To get some data, I had a little fun and wrote a Python script [1] to match
a package git history with the Uploaders field in d/control. If in the last
3 years, someone listed in the Uploaders field hasn't made a single commit, the package gets flagged.

Turns out about half of the packages in our namespace get flagged one way or another :P

=====================
Some caveats:

1. To save time and disk space, I did shallow clones of the DPT's git repositories, using 2021-08-14 as a cutoff date.

This certainly creates false-positives, but it seemed like a reasonable tradeoff.

2. There might be some discrepancies between packages' git repositories on Salsa and what's been uploaded to the archive. Some of these repos might not have gone through NEW at all.

3. A cursory look revealed a bunch of empty repositories [2] and packages that had been moved to other namespaces, but never removed from the DPT's namespace.

4. Packages flagged as "None" don't have an "Uploaders" field. Either:

* the DPT is the "Maintainer" and we should make sure the package has been orphaned

or

* there's a human "Maintainer" and the DPT isn't listed in Uploaders and we should fix the package.

5. Some of the packages flagged as "Debian Python Team" have the team as Uploaders. Considering the recent policy change, we should probably try to make things more uniform by having the DPT as maintainer everywhere. =====================

All in all, a fair amount of manual work is probably needed to make this
list useful and remove false-positive, thus the 'QA Experiment' part in the title of this mail.

Before putting more efforts into this, I wanted to hear from other team members. Do you think this is valuable work?

Yes, IMO it help us to have more knowledge about the packages maintained
in the team.

If I get a good enough list (again, the current one needs work), would you support removing "stale uploaders" from our team-maintained packages??

It make sense, I think after have a final list we can analyze if those
packages can be removed or look for a maintainer.

Cheers,

[1]: https://salsa.debian.org/pollo/qa-scripts/-/blob/master/dpt-stale-uploaders.py

[2]: See empty.txt. I took the liberty of removing them, as they were all older than 6 months.

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⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Louis-Philippe Véronneau
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋ pollo@debian.org / veronneau.org
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pidcat: Debian Python Team
pinball-table-gnu: None
pipenv: Bastian Venthur
pipenv-pipes: Joel Cross
pipsi: ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)
pisa: W. Martin Borgert
pkgconfig: Josue Ortega
pkpgcounter: Kumar Appaiah, Jerome Alet
plainbox: Sylvain Pineau, Zygmunt Krynicki, Debian Python Team plainbox-provider-checkbox: Sylvain Pineau, Zygmunt Krynicki, Debian Python Team
plainbox-provider-piglit: Zygmunt Krynicki, Debian Python Team plainbox-provider-resource-generic: Sylvain Pineau, Zygmunt Krynicki, Debian Python Team
planet-venus: Olivier Berger
platformio: Peter Záhradník
ply: None
pokrok: Steffen Moeller
polib: Debian Python Team
policyd-rate-limit: Valentin Samir
polyline: Joseph Nahmias
ponyorm: None
portalocker: Josue Ortega
portio: Luca Boccassi
power: Jonathan Carter
powerline: Jerome Charaoui
powerline-gitstatus: Jerome Charaoui
pprintpp: None
praw: Josue Ortega
prawcore: Josue Ortega
preggy: Marcelo Jorge Vieira
premailer: Geoffrey Thomas
preprocess: Johannes Ring
prettytable: Debian Python Team
prompt-toolkit: Lennart Weller
prospector: ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)
protonvpn-cli: Francisco Vilmar Cardoso Ruviaro
psphere: None
pssh: Hilmar Preuße,Jochen Sprickerhof
psyclone: None
psycopg2: Fabio Tranchitella
psycopg3: Debian Python Team
psygnal: Debian PaN Maintainers
ptable: Scott Kitterman
ptex2tex: Johannes Ring
ptpython: Debian Python Team
ptvsd: William Grzybowski
pubtal: Debian Python Team
puddletag: Debian Python Team
puremagic: None
pusimp: Drew Parsons
py-libzfs: Debian ZFS on Linux maintainers
py-postgresql: Daniel Kahn Gillmor, William Grzybowski
py-postgresql-old: Debian Python Team, Daniel Kahn Gillmor
py-radix: Aggelos Avgerinos
py-sendfile: Stephan Peijnik
py-stringmatching: Drew Parsons
py-ubjson: Orestis Ioannou
py3cairo: Koichi Akabe
py3dns: Debian Python Team
py3exiv2: Marcelo Jorge Vieira, Pablo Santiago Blum de Aguiar
pyacoustid: Debian Python Team
pyaes: None
pyagentx: Valentin Vidic
pyahocorasick: None
pyaimt: Debian Python Team
pyamf: Miguel Landaeta
pyannotate: None
pyasn: Hans-Christoph Steiner
pyasn1: Debian Python Team, Deepak Tripathi, Vincent Bernat
pybackpack: Debian Python Team
pybik: B. Clausius
pybindgen: Sophie Brun
pybloomfiltermmap: None
pycairo: Torsten Marek
pycallgraph: Debian Python Team
pycaptcha: Olivier Sallou
pycarddav: Christoph Egger
pycg: Sandro Tosi
pycha: Debian Python Team
pychecker: Kenneth J. Pronovici, Sandro Tosi
pychromecast: Ruben Undheim
pycodestyle: None
pycryptodome: Christopher Hoskin
pycsco: Debian Python Team
pycxx: Julian Taylor
pydantic: Michael Banck
pydantic-core: Michael Banck
pydap: Debian Python Team
pydb: Debian Python Team
pydbus: Alberto Caso
pydenticon: Andrej Shadura
pydispatcher: Neil Muller
pydle: Jelmer Vernooij
pydocstyle: ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)
pydot: None
pydoubles: Debian Python Team
pyeapi: Vincent Bernat
pyecm: None
pyelemental: Cesare Tirabassi
pyenchant: Debian Python Team
pyeos: Debian Python Team
pyequihash: Debian Python Team
pyexcelerator: Debian Python Team
pyexiv2: Debian Python Team
pyfavicon: Henry-Nicolas Tourneur
pyfeed: Thomas Preud'homme, Debian Python Team
pyfg: Debian Python Team
pyfits: Aurelien Jarno
pyflakes: Varun Hiremath
pyflot: Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
pyfribidi: Lior Kaplan, Shachar Shemesh
pyfuse3: Nikolaus Rath, Francesco Paolo Lovergine
pygame: Ed Boraas, A Mennucc1, Dominik George
pyglet: Michael Hanke, Per B. Sederberg, Stephan Peijnik, Yaroslav Halchenko pygments: Debian Python Team
pygnuplot: Josue Ortega
pygooglechart: Sandro Tosi, Debian Python Team
pygopherd: None
pygpu: Sandro Tosi, Jan Dittberner
pygtail: Christopher Baines
pygtkspellcheck: Raphaël Hertzog
pyhamcrest: David Villa Alises
pyhanko: None
pyhunspell: None
pyicqt: Debian Python Team, Patrick Ringl
pyicu: Debian Python Team
pyinfra: Christophe Siraut
pyinotify: Debian Python Team
pyiosxr: Vincent Bernat
pyip: Bernd Zeimetz
pyjavaproperties: Hans-Christoph Steiner
pyjks: Hans-Christoph Steiner
pyjokes: None
pyjunitxml: Michael Rosenfeld
pykaraoke: Miriam Ruiz
pykcs11: Debian Python Team
pyke: Daniele Tricoli
pykickstart: Carl Chenet, Fathi Boudra
pykwalify: Johan Fleury
pylama: ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)
pylast: Josue Ortega
pylibmc: Carl Chenet
pylint-celery: ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)
pylint-common: ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)
pylint-django: None
pylint-flask: ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)
pylint-plugin-utils: None
pylint2: Debian Python Team
pylirc: Loic Minier, Arnaud Quette, Charlie Smotherman, Debian Python Team pylons: Piotr Ożarowski
pyls-black: Julian Gilbey
pylzss: Drew Parsons
pymacs: Emmanuel Arias
pymarkups: Debian Python Team
pymdown-extensions: None
pyme: Debian Python Team
pymilter: Daniel Kahn Gillmor
pymodbus: Maximiliano Curia
pympler: William Grzybowski
pymssql: Geoffrey Thomas
pymupdf: Johannes 'josch' Schauer
pynag: Clint Byrum, Pall Sigurdsson
pynagram: Debian Python Team
pyodbc: Debian Python Team
pyogg: Debian Python Team
pyomo: Debian Python Team
pyopengl: Torsten Marek
pyout: Yaroslav Halchenko
pyp: Khalid El Fathi, ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)
pypar2: Debian Python Team
pyparsing2: Thomas Goirand
pyparted: None
pypass: ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬)
pype: Debian Python Team
pyphen: Daniel Kahn Gillmor
pypolicyd-spf: Debian Python Team
pyproject-examples: None
pypuppetdb: Jonas Genannt, Apollon Oikonomopoulos
pyqt-qwt: Debian Python Team
pyquery: Jonathan Wiltshire,TANIGUCHI Takaki
pyqwt3d: Debian Python Team
pyqwt5: Debian Python Team
pyrad: Jeremy Lainé, Bjorn Ove Grotan
pyramid-beaker: Ansgar Burchardt
pyramid-jinja2: None
pyreadstat: Debian Python Team
pyres: Gilles Dubuc, Marcelo Jorge Vieira
pyrfc3339: Debian Let's Encrypt Team
pyroute2: Florian Pelgrim
pyrrd: Elena Grandi
pyrsistent: Andrej Shadura
pyrundeck: Benjamin Drung
pyscard: Debian Python Team
pyscript: Debian Python Team
pysdl2: Victor Fayvel
pysendfile: Debian Python Team
pyside: None
pyside-mobility: Didier Raboud
pysimplesoap: None
pysmbc: Jérôme Guelfucci
pysmi: Debian Python Team
pysodium: Christopher Hoskin
pyspf: Debian Python Team, Gustavo Franco
pyspread: Debian Python Team
pysrt: Etienne Millon, Oxan van Leeuwen
pyssim: Gilles Dubuc
pystemd: Alexandros Afentoulis
pytagsfs: Debian Python Team
pytds: Christopher Hoskin
pyte: None
pytest-bdd: Brian May
pytest-catchlog: None
pytest-django: Brian May
pytest-env: None
pytest-expect: Diane Trout
pytest-flake8-path: Guilherme Puida Moreira
pytest-flask: Alexandros Afentoulis
pytest-httpbin: Pierre-Elliott Bécue
pytest-instafail: None
pytest-jupyter: Julien Puydt, Gordon Ball
pytest-lazy-fixture: Joel Cross
pytest-localserver: None
pytest-mock: Vincent Bernat
pytest-ordering: Steffen Moeller
pytest-pep8: Adrian Vondendriesch
pytest-pylint: Ondřej Kobližek
pytest-qt: Ghislain Antony Vaillant
pytest-runner: Brian May
pytest-tornasync: Joseph Nahmias
pytest-xvfb: Ghislain Antony Vaillant, Nick Morrott
pyth: Daniele Tricoli
python-aalib: Stefano Rivera
python-adal: Nicolas Dandrimont
python-adns: Jan Dittberner
python-afl: Debian Python Team
python-agate: Ghislain Antony Vaillant
python-agate-dbf: Ghislain Antony Vaillant
python-agate-excel: Ghislain Antony Vaillant
python-agate-sql: Ghislain Antony Vaillant
python-aiohttp: Tianon Gravi, Paul Tagliamonte, William Grzybowski python-aiohttp-proxy: Martin
python-aiohttp-retry: Yaroslav Halchenko
python-aiohttp-swagger: Joel Cross
python-aioice: W. Martin Borgert
python-aiomeasures: None
python-aiortc: W. Martin Borgert
python-aiostream: Debian Python Team

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