Hello,

I am proposing the addition of Home Assistant, a Python-based smart home platform, to Debian. Home Assistant requires extensive hardware integrations and thus has a significant number of Python module dependencies.

Upon review, I've identified 666 Python modules required by Home Assistant
that are not yet available in Debian. As I am attending DebConf in Busan,
South Korea, I have chosen this as my DebCamp project. While it's a massive undertaking and may seem ambitious, any contributions to this effort would be greatly appreciated.

You can find the list of these dependencies here:

https://people.debian.org/~edward/ha/

I encourage anyone interested to join in helping to package these
dependencies.

Thank you!
--
Edward

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Is there no way, especially in the beginig, to patch out funcionality?

Stuff like volvo on call doesn't seem very vital to run the thing.

I'd focus on identifying the real dependencies and prioritize rest later on, when you can get the minimal thing running perhaps.

In data martedì 23 luglio 2024 13:25:53 CEST, Edward Betts ha scritto:

Hello,

I am proposing the addition of Home Assistant, a Python-based smart home platform, to Debian. Home Assistant requires extensive hardware integrations and thus has a significant number of Python module dependencies.

Upon review, I've identified 666 Python modules required by Home Assistant that are not yet available in Debian. As I am attending DebConf in Busan, South Korea, I have chosen this as my DebCamp project. While it's a massive undertaking and may seem ambitious, any contributions to this effort would
be greatly appreciated.

You can find the list of these dependencies here:

https://people.debian.org/~edward/ha/

I encourage anyone interested to join in helping to package these dependencies.

Thank you!

--
Salvo Tomaselli

"Io non mi sento obbligato a credere che lo stesso Dio che ci ha dotato di senso, ragione ed intelletto intendesse che noi ne facessimo a meno."
-- Galileo Galilei

https://ltworf.codeberg.page/
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On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 04:38:47PM +0200, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:

Is there no way, especially in the beginig, to patch out funcionality?

Stuff like volvo on call doesn't seem very vital to run the thing.

I'd focus on identifying the real dependencies and prioritize rest later on, when you can get the minimal thing running perhaps.

Hi Edward,

Can I add: the larger task is not the initial packaging (though that
itself is a very large task); it's the ongoing maintenance of these
666 packages. Who is going to do that work (including ensuring that
any resulting updates don't break anything higher up the dependency
chain)? Until that question has an answer, I would strongly recommend following Salvo's suggestions. Then if someone really wants feature
XYZ, that would be a good time to package the relevant module.

It might be that HomeAssistant is too big a task for Debian to take on
unless there's a small group of interested maintainers able to do it;
perhaps there could be a HomeAssistant Team?

Best wishes,

Julian

In data martedì 23 luglio 2024 13:25:53 CEST, Edward Betts ha scritto:

Hello,

I am proposing the addition of Home Assistant, a Python-based smart home platform, to Debian. Home Assistant requires extensive hardware integrations
and thus has a significant number of Python module dependencies.

Upon review, I've identified 666 Python modules required by Home Assistant that are not yet available in Debian. As I am attending DebConf in Busan, South Korea, I have chosen this as my DebCamp project. While it's a massive undertaking and may seem ambitious, any contributions to this effort would be greatly appreciated.

You can find the list of these dependencies here:

https://people.debian.org/~edward/ha/

I encourage anyone interested to join in helping to package these dependencies.

Thank you!

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On 24/07/2024 00:34, Julian Gilbey wrote:

On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 04:38:47PM +0200, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:

Is there no way, especially in the beginig, to patch out funcionality?

Stuff like volvo on call doesn't seem very vital to run the thing.

I'd focus on identifying the real dependencies and prioritize rest later on, >> when you can get the minimal thing running perhaps.

Hi Edward,

Can I add: the larger task is not the initial packaging (though that
itself is a very large task); it's the ongoing maintenance of these
666 packages. Who is going to do that work (including ensuring that
any resulting updates don't break anything higher up the dependency
chain)? Until that question has an answer, I would strongly recommend following Salvo's suggestions. Then if someone really wants feature
XYZ, that would be a good time to package the relevant module.

It might be that HomeAssistant is too big a task for Debian to take on
unless there's a small group of interested maintainers able to do it;
perhaps there could be a HomeAssistant Team?

In data martedì 23 luglio 2024 13:25:53 CEST, Edward Betts ha scritto:

Hello,

I am proposing the addition of Home Assistant, a Python-based smart home >>> platform, to Debian. Home Assistant requires extensive hardware integrations
and thus has a significant number of Python module dependencies.

Upon review, I've identified 666 Python modules required by Home Assistant >>> that are not yet available in Debian.

(...)

Hi, just an additional data point:

[HAOS], or Home Assistant Operating System, quote: "is *not* based on a regular Linux distribution like Ubuntu. It is built using Buildroot and it is optimized to run Home Assistant."

Based on the fact that upstream went out of their way to develop a dedicated distro that's not a derivative of any other, and frequently recommending against
installing HA in any other way in the docs, there is likely limited support from
upstream for a Debian packaged suite.


[HAOS]: https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system

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Sdrager,
Blair Noctis

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Hi Edward,

On 2024-07-23 13:25:53, Edward Betts wrote:

I am proposing the addition of Home Assistant, a Python-based smart home platform, to Debian. Home Assistant requires extensive hardware integrations and thus has a significant number of Python module dependencies.

Upon review, I've identified 666 Python modules required by Home Assistant that are not yet available in Debian.

[...]

You can find the list of these dependencies here:

https://people.debian.org/~edward/ha/

I have not done any systematic check but while skimming your list I accidentally stumbled upon speedtest-cli. According to [0] this is
already available in Debian for quite some time. Maybe it is worth double-checking whether there are more such cases.

Best regards,

Peter

[0] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/speedtest-cli

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