• Plan to upload all packages still using Alioth in Maintainer/Upload

    From stefanor@debian.org@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 14 15:50:02 2021
    Hi debian-python (2021.08.14_13:30:00_+0000)
    There are more than those, some other variants made it into use too:

    udd=> SELECT COUNT(*), maintainer_email FROM sources WHERE release='sid' AND maintainer_email LIKE '%python%' GROUP BY maintainer_email;
    count | maintainer_email -------+-------------------------------------------------
    1 | gst-python1.0@packages.debian.org
    1 | pkg-python-debian-maint@lists.alioth.debian.org

    For clarity, I don't mean hijack the things that are obviously other
    teams :)

    SR

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  • From Stefano Rivera@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 14 15:50:01 2021
    Hi Sandro (2021.08.14_02:25:21_+0000)
    [1] https://lintian.debian.org/tags/python-teams-merged

    There are more than those, some other variants made it into use too:

    udd=> SELECT COUNT(*), maintainer_email FROM sources WHERE release='sid' AND maintainer_email LIKE '%python%' GROUP BY maintainer_email;
    count | maintainer_email -------+-------------------------------------------------
    1 | gst-python1.0@packages.debian.org
    1 | pkg-python-debian-maint@lists.alioth.debian.org
    1 | python-apps-team@alioth-lists.debian.net
    1 | python-apps-team@lists.alioth.debian.net
    62 | python-apps-team@lists.alioth.debian.org
    15 | python-modules-team@alioth-lists.debian.net
    713 | python-modules-team@lists.alioth.debian.org
    9 | team+python-modules@tracker.debian.org
    670 | team+python@tracker.debian.org
    (9 rows)

    We should fix them all.

    Generally +1 to your proposal.

    SR

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    On 2021-08-14 09 h 30, Stefano Rivera wrote:
    Hi Sandro (2021.08.14_02:25:21_+0000)
    [1] https://lintian.debian.org/tags/python-teams-merged

    There are more than those, some other variants made it into use too:

    udd=> SELECT COUNT(*), maintainer_email FROM sources WHERE release='sid' AND maintainer_email LIKE '%python%' GROUP BY maintainer_email;
    count | maintainer_email -------+-------------------------------------------------
    1 | gst-python1.0@packages.debian.org
    1 | pkg-python-debian-maint@lists.alioth.debian.org
    1 | python-apps-team@alioth-lists.debian.net
    1 | python-apps-team@lists.alioth.debian.net
    62 | python-apps-team@lists.alioth.debian.org
    15 | python-modules-team@alioth-lists.debian.net
    713 | python-modules-team@lists.alioth.debian.org
    9 | team+python-modules@tracker.debian.org
    670 | team+python@tracker.debian.org
    (9 rows)

    Good catch. FWIW, I've opened a feature request on Lintian to try to
    catch those kind of errors [1].

    [1]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=991955

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  • From Brian Thompson@21:1/5 to Sandro Tosi on Sun Aug 15 00:40:01 2021
    On 0813, Sandro Tosi wrote:
    Hello,
    a long time ago, we decided to stop using Alioth for the team email
    address in Maintainer/Uploaders fields, and onovy mass-committed this
    change to our repo; several of our packages (736, according to [1])
    are still using Alioth.

    [1] https://lintian.debian.org/tags/python-teams-merged

    Alioth is no longer maintained (or at the very least, our 2 mailing
    lists), and the amount of spam received through it is way too high to
    be sustainable.

    After the upcoming release of bullseye, I plan to start uploading all >packages that currently use Alioth to migrate them to Tracker (along
    with the other pending changes in the git repos).

    I understand it's possible an upload exists in experimental that fixes
    it, so i'll try and check for that; it's also likely that if a package
    is still using Alioth, their maintainer is longer interested in the
    package, but i dont think now it's the time for a mass purge. I also >understand some of these packages will have the team as Uploaders and, >according to our Policy, i should contact the physical person doing
    the upload beforehand, but i think that would slow down this process
    and i'm ready to deal with the consequences of not following the
    Policy to the letter.

    Please let me know if you prefer me to act differently.

    Regards,

    I think this is a good idea and a rather thankless job. Maintenance
    things like this always need to be done. Thank you!

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    Best regards,

    Brian T

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  • From Dmitry Shachnev@21:1/5 to Sandro Tosi on Sun Aug 15 20:20:02 2021
    Hi all,

    On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:25:21PM -0400, Sandro Tosi wrote:
    Hello,
    a long time ago, we decided to stop using Alioth for the team email
    address in Maintainer/Uploaders fields, and onovy mass-committed this
    change to our repo; several of our packages (736, according to [1])
    are still using Alioth.

    [1] https://lintian.debian.org/tags/python-teams-merged

    Alioth is no longer maintained (or at the very least, our 2 mailing
    lists), and the amount of spam received through it is way too high to
    be sustainable.

    After the upcoming release of bullseye, I plan to start uploading all packages that currently use Alioth to migrate them to Tracker (along
    with the other pending changes in the git repos).

    Just please don’t upload everything at once, following the release team’s recommendation [1] (in order to manage load on the buildds etc.)

    Also there may be packages which have large WIP changes in git, which are
    not yet ready for upload. I am not sure how to detect them, but maybe exclude packages which have a new upstream release in git (compared to unstable)?

    [1]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2021/08/msg00001.html

    On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 01:30:00PM +0000, Stefano Rivera wrote:
    There are more than those, some other variants made it into use too:

    udd=> SELECT COUNT(*), maintainer_email FROM sources WHERE release='sid' AND maintainer_email LIKE '%python%' GROUP BY maintainer_email;
    count | maintainer_email -------+-------------------------------------------------
    1 | gst-python1.0@packages.debian.org
    1 | pkg-python-debian-maint@lists.alioth.debian.org
    1 | python-apps-team@alioth-lists.debian.net
    1 | python-apps-team@lists.alioth.debian.net
    62 | python-apps-team@lists.alioth.debian.org
    15 | python-modules-team@alioth-lists.debian.net
    713 | python-modules-team@lists.alioth.debian.org
    9 | team+python-modules@tracker.debian.org
    670 | team+python@tracker.debian.org
    (9 rows)

    We should fix them all.

    Except the first two (which are valid addresses not related to our team).

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    Dmitry Shachnev

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  • From Sandro Tosi@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 24 06:20:03 2021
    After the upcoming release of bullseye, I plan to start uploading all packages that currently use Alioth to migrate them to Tracker (along
    with the other pending changes in the git repos).

    progress for this work is now tracked at https://github.com/sandrotosi/debian-python-team-tracker

    Regards,
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    My website: http://sandrotosi.me/
    Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/sandrotosi

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