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niels@thykier.net:

Hi,

Like last release, we are doing a roll call for porters of all release architectures. If you are an active porter behind one of the [release architectures] for the entire lifetime of Debian Stretch (est. end of
2020), please respond with a signed email containing the following
before Friday, the 9th of September:

[...]

Thanks to all that replied to the roll call.

We got replies from all architectures except amd64 (Waived), i386
(Waived) and powerpc (problematic). For the ports that replied, all had
at least 2 or more porters.
We also got a parallel update from Matthias Klose on the toolchain
state[1]. Based on these we have updated the current state of the
architecture qualification for Stretch[2].

* Please check that your name is listed as a porter on [2] (see [3]
for how). If I missed you, please do not hesitate to let me know.

* For powerpc, mips and mipsel: Please note that we have added a
(potentially) blocking issues for your architecture.
- powerpc: No porter (RM blocker)
- mips+mipsel: #834147 (RM concern, possibly blocker)


As for the piggy backed question about PIE by default:

* arm64: 2 OK, 1 did not mention it
* armel: 3 OK, 1 OK if tested first, 1 was neutral and 1 did not
mention it
* armhf: 4 OK, 1 OK if tested first, 1 was neutral and 2 did not
mention it
* mips+mipsel+mips64el: 3 OK, 1 OK later, 4 did not mention it.
* ppc64el: 3 OK, 1 recommended further testing/research
* s390x: 2 OK

Over all, most people (who answered it) was positive towards the switch.
Based on this, I suspect that if we make PIE default in Stretch, then
we will do it for all architectures. That said, you will be notified if
that default changes for Stretch.

Thanks,
~Niels

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2016/09/msg00263.html

[2] https://release.debian.org/stretch/arch_qualify.html

[3] Hover your mouse over the number of porters for your architecture
or download the underlying data file from:
https://release.debian.org/stretch/arch_spec.yaml



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On 09/20/2016 11:16 PM, Niels Thykier wrote:

- powerpc: No porter (RM blocker)

I'd be happy to pick up powerpc to keep it for Stretch. I'm already
maintaining powerpcspe which is very similar to powerpc.

Adrian

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Hi all,

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> wrote:

On 20.09.2016 23:46, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

On 09/20/2016 11:16 PM, Niels Thykier wrote:

- powerpc: No porter (RM blocker)

I'd be happy to pick up powerpc to keep it for Stretch. I'm already
maintaining powerpcspe which is very similar to powerpc.

No, you are not maintaining powerpcspe as a release architecture, and that's something different than building packages for some of the ports architectures.
If you can get powerpcspe accepted as a release architecture, then maybe you gain some credibility to maintain another release architecture ;)

[Let's assume that we can't find a powerpc porter in time for Stretch.]

1. Will `powperpc` automatically be downgraded to simple port ? Or is
this also not automated and the port may simply be removed (eg. sparc)
?
2. Apart from loosing the automatic debian-installer stuff, what else
are we going to loose in that scenario ?

Thanks much for pointers !

-M

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