• GNOME 43 updates for Debian 12

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Jeremy_B=C3=ADcha?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 26 21:40:01 2023
    Hi,

    Is anyone intending to work on packaging the GNOME 43 bugfix update
    for Debian 12, more specifically, for Debian 12.1?

    Here's a tracker for GNOME Core (although there are GNOME-related apps
    that aren't in GNOME Core and therefore aren't on this tracker): https://people.debian.org/~fpeters/gnome/debian-gnome-43-status.html

    Should we delay uploading GNOME 44 stuff to Unstable to allow for more
    testing of these updates?

    Thank you,
    Jeremy Bícha

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  • From Simon McVittie@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 27 12:30:01 2023
    On Fri, 26 May 2023 at 15:33:16 -0400, Jeremy Bcha wrote:
    Is anyone intending to work on packaging the GNOME 43 bugfix update
    for Debian 12, more specifically, for Debian 12.1?

    I think yes we should, most important packages first (Shell etc. above
    random leaf apps). I will try to do some of it, but I cannot cover all
    of it myself, so I would really appreciate help (and in particular I'd
    prefer it not to be my name on *all* the bookworm-pu requests).

    Should we delay uploading GNOME 44 stuff to Unstable to allow for more testing of these updates?

    On one hand this would get us more testing; on the other hand, we're
    already a couple of months behind upstream, and the longer we wait with
    44, the more annoying the update to 45 in the autumn is going to be.

    I suspect most of the GNOME team is already running 44 from experimental
    anyway (I'm intentionally not, in the hope that I'll notice any last
    minute showstoppers) so hopefully it would not be too much of a burden
    if we wait until perhaps July before doing 44 in unstable?

    smcv

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  • From Simon McVittie@21:1/5 to Simon McVittie on Sat May 27 13:20:01 2023
    On Sat, 27 May 2023 at 11:28:49 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
    On Fri, 26 May 2023 at 15:33:16 -0400, Jeremy Bcha wrote:
    Is anyone intending to work on packaging the GNOME 43 bugfix update
    for Debian 12, more specifically, for Debian 12.1?

    I think yes we should, most important packages first (Shell etc. above
    random leaf apps).

    I've started https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome/BookwormUpdates, contributions welcome.

    Probably many of the packages in "to be evaluated" are too high-risk or
    too much work to be updating as a priority; please move them to
    "intentionally skipped" if they seem like a bad tradeoff.

    For contributors who are already running GNOME 44, upgrading libnotify
    and pango1.0 in experimental would maybe be a useful thing to do: those
    seem to be missing at the moment.

    smcv

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Jeremy_B=C3=ADcha?=@21:1/5 to smcv@debian.org on Sun May 28 18:10:02 2023
    On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 7:11 AM Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> wrote:
    I've started https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome/BookwormUpdates, contributions welcome.

    Probably many of the packages in "to be evaluated" are too high-risk or
    too much work to be updating as a priority; please move them to "intentionally skipped" if they seem like a bad tradeoff.

    I added a few more items to the wiki page. I moved a few to the
    "intentionally skipped" section.

    I don't know what our selection criteria is, as I've only done a
    handful of Debian Stable Updates myself.

    For instance, gnome-remote-desktop 43.4 only has a single change,
    adding a translation for Belarusian. Maybe that's a simple targeted
    bugfix and it doesn't matter that we don't understand the language;
    adding a language is clearly going to be better for those users.

    Unfortunately, Debian Stable Updates are far enough removed from what
    I normally work on (and like you, I work on many things) that I expect
    I likely won't be able to provide much more help with Bookworm
    updates.

    In the specific case of GNOME Shell 43, the risk/benefit is too
    unbalanced for us to do any more uploads of that series to Ubuntu
    22.10 which will quickly be End of Life and Ubuntu 23.04 (with GNOME
    44) is a better choice for our users and work.

    Approximately now, GNOME is preparing the 43.7 release with the final
    official 43 series release in mid-to-late September. Not all parts of
    GNOME participate. For instance, the Evolution stack reached End of
    Life once GNOME 44 was released.

    https://wiki.gnome.org/FortyFive

    By the way, I found this weekend's Plasma situation to be an
    interesting but long read. https://bugs.debian.org/1035056

    Thank you,
    Jeremy Bícha

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Jeremy_B=C3=ADcha?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 31 18:00:01 2023
    Now that GNOME 43.7 is released and we are in Full Freeze for
    Bookworm, I uploaded many of the GNOME 43 updates to Unstable for more
    testing and review.

    Nautilus looks the most interesting to me since it fixes multiple
    potential crashers and other issues.

    Thank you,
    Jeremy Bícha

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