Good Time of Day:

After updating and Debian-Goodies telling me which services need to be restarted, I've always been puzzled by these messages:

Debian-gdm on /dev/tty7 is running obsolete gnome-session-b[785], gnome-settings-[1015], gnome-shell[794]
stephen on /dev/tty2 is running obsolete blueman-applet[1316], chrome[1660,1672,1677,1766,1779,1780,1783,1788,1808,1811,1817,1833,1849,1863,1873,1877,1890,1899,1916,14495],
evolution-addre[1523], evolution-calen[1432], evolution-sourc[1229], gnome-session-b[1080], gnome-settings-[1150], gnome-shell[1200], gnome-terminal-[1424], goa-daemon[1236], goa-identity-se[1253], gsd-printer[1203], gvfs-goa-volume[1295], liferea[1338],
mission-control[1257], nautilus[1356], soffice.bin[1450],
zeitgeist-datah[1360]

Does this mean that the above need to be restarted, therefore one should
logout and back in? The term 'obsolete' confuses this user.

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On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:24 AM, Stephen Allen <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

Does this mean that the above need to be restarted, therefore one should

logout and back in? The term 'obsolete' confuses this user.

I suppose that's the meaning, at least is similar to the output used by the needrestart package; to be honest needrestart prints "uses obsolete
binary"...


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<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:24 AM, Stephen Allen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:marathon.durandal@gmail.com" target="_blank">marathon.durandal@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><br>[
...]<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div id=":io" class="" style="overflow:hidden">Does this mean that the above need to be restarted, therefore one should<

logout and back in? The term &#39;obsolete&#39; confuses this user.</div></blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I suppose that&#39;s the meaning, at least is similar to the output used by the needrestart package; to be honest needrestart
prints &quot;uses obsolete binary&quot;... <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Andrea</div></div>
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On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:08:00AM +0100, Andrea Vettorello wrote:

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:24 AM, Stephen Allen <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

Does this mean that the above need to be restarted, therefore one should

logout and back in? The term 'obsolete' confuses this user.

I suppose that's the meaning, at least is similar to the output used by the need-restart package; to be honest needrestart prints "uses obsolete binary"...

Thanks for the reply Andrea. So if 'check-restart' tells me it wants to
restart certain services, and does, are these console messages
superfluous?

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On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Stephen Allen <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for the reply Andrea. So if 'check-restart' tells me it wants to restart certain services, and does, are these console messages
superfluous?

Unless for bugs in the way the binaries are compared I think the the
warnings in the console are correct, GDM and gnome-session are not
restarted when you are still logged in and I'm confident no applications
are automatically restarted without user intervention during upgrades.

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<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Stephen Allen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:marathon.durandal@gmail.com" target="_blank">marathon.durandal@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><
blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=":8c" class="a3s" style="overflow:hidden">Thanks for the reply Andrea. So if &#39;check-restart&#39; tells me it wants to<br>
restart certain services, and does, are these console messages<br> superfluous?</div></blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Unless for bugs in the way the binaries are compared I think the the warnings in the console are correct, GDM and gnome-session are not restarted when you are still logged in and I&#
39;m confident no applications are automatically restarted without user intervention during upgrades.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Andrea</div></div>
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