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  • Apollo Atop A Column?

    From David Amicus@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 27 15:48:42 2020
    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/390898442661910889/visual-search/

    Anyone know where the column is?

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to David Amicus on Mon Sep 28 08:19:02 2020
    David Amicus <davidamicus22@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/390898442661910889/visual-search/

    Anyone know where the column is?


    Athens, the Academy.

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    Ed

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Mon Sep 28 15:49:49 2020
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    David Amicus <davidamicus22@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/390898442661910889/visual-search/

    Anyone know where the column is?


    Athens, the Academy.


    I think it's a rather poor Apollo. Not in the same room as the Belvedere Apollo;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Belvedere

    Mind you, Michelangelo's David puts both in the shade; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_(Michelangelo)

    Ed

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  • From David Amicus@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Mon Sep 28 14:40:06 2020
    On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 7:50:42 AM UTC-7, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    David Amicus <davida...@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/390898442661910889/visual-search/

    Anyone know where the column is?


    Athens, the Academy.

    I think it's a rather poor Apollo. Not in the same room as the Belvedere Apollo;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Belvedere

    Mind you, Michelangelo's David puts both in the shade; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_(Michelangelo)

    Ed

    Thank-you!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_of_Athens_(modern)

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to David Amicus on Tue Sep 29 18:54:34 2020
    David Amicus wrote:
    On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 7:50:42 AM UTC-7, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    David Amicus <davida...@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/390898442661910889/visual-search/

    Anyone know where the column is?


    Athens, the Academy.

    I think it's a rather poor Apollo. Not in the same room as the Belvedere
    Apollo;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Belvedere

    Mind you, Michelangelo's David puts both in the shade;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_(Michelangelo)

    Ed

    Thank-you!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_of_Athens_(modern)



    I think I prefer the Athena on the other column. I grew up with our UK's Britannia as an image, and found out late in life that the warrior
    maiden ran all through western history; not least in Wagner's Ring Cycle as Brünnhilde the Valkyrie.

    Ed

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Tue Sep 29 19:20:15 2020
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    David Amicus wrote:
    On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 7:50:42 AM UTC-7, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    David Amicus <davida...@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/390898442661910889/visual-search/

    Anyone know where the column is?


    Athens, the Academy.

    I think it's a rather poor Apollo. Not in the same room as the Belvedere >>> Apollo;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Belvedere

    Mind you, Michelangelo's David puts both in the shade;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_(Michelangelo)

    Ed

    Thank-you!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_of_Athens_(modern)



    I think I prefer the Athena on the other column. I grew up with our UK's Britannia as an image, and found out late in life that the warrior
    maiden ran all through western history; not least in Wagner's Ring Cycle as Brünnhilde the Valkyrie.

    Ed


    For a society that kept its women under wraps, in the back rooms with
    the children and slaves, where did their patron goddess come from?
    Surely not from Sparta, where the women were far more enfranchised!
    But I have a memory ingrained from some ancient reading, about sailors
    rounding cape Sounion to Athens' south, and being guided in by the sun
    gleaming off Athena's shield on the Acropolis;
    https://bit.ly/3n2HcQA

    And a thought occurs to me about when Spartan hoplite armies came
    marching into Attica up through the Corinthian isthmus, bent on
    destruction of an enemy. Did they see Athena standing like a front-line soldier, menacingly and rather beautifully, up on the high rock? And did
    some think "Blimey! Let's go back and get the corn in?"

    Ed

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  • From David Amicus@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Wed Sep 30 07:06:31 2020
    On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 11:21:01 AM UTC-7, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    David Amicus wrote:
    On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 7:50:42 AM UTC-7, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    David Amicus <davida...@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/390898442661910889/visual-search/

    Anyone know where the column is?


    Athens, the Academy.

    I think it's a rather poor Apollo. Not in the same room as the Belvedere >>> Apollo;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Belvedere

    Mind you, Michelangelo's David puts both in the shade;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_(Michelangelo)

    Ed

    Thank-you!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_of_Athens_(modern)



    I think I prefer the Athena on the other column. I grew up with our UK's Britannia as an image, and found out late in life that the warrior
    maiden ran all through western history; not least in Wagner's Ring Cycle as
    Brünnhilde the Valkyrie.

    Ed
    For a society that kept its women under wraps, in the back rooms with
    the children and slaves, where did their patron goddess come from?
    Surely not from Sparta, where the women were far more enfranchised!
    But I have a memory ingrained from some ancient reading, about sailors rounding cape Sounion to Athens' south, and being guided in by the sun gleaming off Athena's shield on the Acropolis;
    https://bit.ly/3n2HcQA

    And a thought occurs to me about when Spartan hoplite armies came
    marching into Attica up through the Corinthian isthmus, bent on
    destruction of an enemy. Did they see Athena standing like a front-line soldier, menacingly and rather beautifully, up on the high rock? And did some think "Blimey! Let's go back and get the corn in?"

    Ed
    Very interesting! Thanks!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athena_Promachos

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to David Amicus on Wed Sep 30 19:13:13 2020
    David Amicus wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 11:21:01 AM UTC-7, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    David Amicus wrote:
    On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 7:50:42 AM UTC-7, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    David Amicus <davida...@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/390898442661910889/visual-search/

    Anyone know where the column is?


    Athens, the Academy.

    I think it's a rather poor Apollo. Not in the same room as the Belvedere >>>>> Apollo;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Belvedere

    Mind you, Michelangelo's David puts both in the shade;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_(Michelangelo)

    Ed

    Thank-you!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_of_Athens_(modern)



    I think I prefer the Athena on the other column. I grew up with our UK's >>> Britannia as an image, and found out late in life that the warrior
    maiden ran all through western history; not least in Wagner's Ring Cycle as >>> Brünnhilde the Valkyrie.

    Ed
    For a society that kept its women under wraps, in the back rooms with
    the children and slaves, where did their patron goddess come from?
    Surely not from Sparta, where the women were far more enfranchised!
    But I have a memory ingrained from some ancient reading, about sailors
    rounding cape Sounion to Athens' south, and being guided in by the sun
    gleaming off Athena's shield on the Acropolis;
    https://bit.ly/3n2HcQA

    And a thought occurs to me about when Spartan hoplite armies came
    marching into Attica up through the Corinthian isthmus, bent on
    destruction of an enemy. Did they see Athena standing like a front-line
    soldier, menacingly and rather beautifully, up on the high rock? And did
    some think "Blimey! Let's go back and get the corn in?"

    Ed
    Very interesting! Thanks!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athena_Promachos


    This one is rather amusing; 1783, American loyalists seeking aid from
    good old Britannia;
    https://bit.ly/36lqjKI

    Ed

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Thu Oct 1 19:18:40 2020
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    David Amicus wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 11:21:01 AM UTC-7, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    David Amicus wrote:
    On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 7:50:42 AM UTC-7, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    David Amicus <davida...@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/390898442661910889/visual-search/ >>>>>>>>
    Anyone know where the column is?


    Athens, the Academy.

    I think it's a rather poor Apollo. Not in the same room as the
    Belvedere
    Apollo;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Belvedere

    Mind you, Michelangelo's David puts both in the shade;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_(Michelangelo)

    Ed

    Thank-you!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_of_Athens_(modern)



    I think I prefer the Athena on the other column. I grew up with our
    UK's
    Britannia as an image, and found out late in life that the warrior
    maiden ran all through western history; not least in Wagner's Ring
    Cycle as
    Brünnhilde the Valkyrie.

    Ed
    For a society that kept its women under wraps, in the back rooms with
    the children and slaves, where did their patron goddess come from?
    Surely not from Sparta, where the women were far more enfranchised!
    But I have a memory ingrained from some ancient reading, about sailors
    rounding cape Sounion to Athens' south, and being guided in by the sun
    gleaming off Athena's shield on the Acropolis;
    https://bit.ly/3n2HcQA

    And a thought occurs to me about when Spartan hoplite armies came
    marching into Attica up through the Corinthian isthmus, bent on
    destruction of an enemy. Did they see Athena standing like a front-line
    soldier, menacingly and rather beautifully, up on the high rock? And did >>> some think "Blimey! Let's go back and get the corn in?"

    Ed
    Very interesting! Thanks!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athena_Promachos


    This one is rather amusing; 1783, American loyalists seeking aid from
    good old Britannia;
    https://bit.ly/36lqjKI

    Ed


    This USA Parthenon;
    https://bit.ly/34f2fXn
    strikes me as very good. The columns with their fluted, tapering cut
    give it the appearance of hanging from the sky, rather than holding it
    up. 1897. OK, so we didn't know about the painting of ancient monuments
    at the time, and we/they had that image of plain white marble everywhere.

    However, the statue of Athena inside;
    https://bit.ly/2Gk1owx
    looks utterly gormless. That's no classical Greek goddess; that's a New
    York waitress staring into some misty haziness of the unknown and unknowing. "Is youze wantin' a toppin' on yer Big mac?"

    Ed

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  • From David Amicus@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Mon Oct 5 10:45:23 2020
    On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 11:19:56 AM UTC-7, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    David Amicus wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 11:21:01 AM UTC-7, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:
    David Amicus wrote:
    On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 7:50:42 AM UTC-7, Ed Cryer wrote: >>>>>> Ed Cryer wrote:
    David Amicus <davida...@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/390898442661910889/visual-search/ >>>>>>>>
    Anyone know where the column is?


    Athens, the Academy.

    I think it's a rather poor Apollo. Not in the same room as the
    Belvedere
    Apollo;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Belvedere

    Mind you, Michelangelo's David puts both in the shade;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_(Michelangelo)

    Ed

    Thank-you!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_of_Athens_(modern)



    I think I prefer the Athena on the other column. I grew up with our >>>> UK's
    Britannia as an image, and found out late in life that the warrior
    maiden ran all through western history; not least in Wagner's Ring
    Cycle as
    Brünnhilde the Valkyrie.

    Ed
    For a society that kept its women under wraps, in the back rooms with >>> the children and slaves, where did their patron goddess come from?
    Surely not from Sparta, where the women were far more enfranchised!
    But I have a memory ingrained from some ancient reading, about sailors >>> rounding cape Sounion to Athens' south, and being guided in by the sun >>> gleaming off Athena's shield on the Acropolis;
    https://bit.ly/3n2HcQA

    And a thought occurs to me about when Spartan hoplite armies came
    marching into Attica up through the Corinthian isthmus, bent on
    destruction of an enemy. Did they see Athena standing like a front-line >>> soldier, menacingly and rather beautifully, up on the high rock? And did >>> some think "Blimey! Let's go back and get the corn in?"

    Ed
    Very interesting! Thanks!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athena_Promachos


    This one is rather amusing; 1783, American loyalists seeking aid from
    good old Britannia;
    https://bit.ly/36lqjKI

    Ed

    This USA Parthenon;
    https://bit.ly/34f2fXn
    strikes me as very good. The columns with their fluted, tapering cut
    give it the appearance of hanging from the sky, rather than holding it
    up. 1897. OK, so we didn't know about the painting of ancient monuments
    at the time, and we/they had that image of plain white marble everywhere.

    However, the statue of Athena inside;
    https://bit.ly/2Gk1owx
    looks utterly gormless. That's no classical Greek goddess; that's a New
    York waitress staring into some misty haziness of the unknown and unknowing. "Is youze wantin' a toppin' on yer Big mac?"

    Ed
    I have been to the Parthenon in Nashville back in the late 1980s before the statue was gilded.

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