• Problems with our democracy

    From Dim Witte@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 17 06:38:21 2021
    What the framers of the Constitution put together seems very liberal
    and wise at the same time, considering how it describes government and
    people's rights. For two centuries in America our states and cities
    have taken advantage of freedoms and liberties (assuming they are not
    the same), so that while economy and culture faired well, all seemed
    copacetic and highly liveable. Americans could be of good will and
    patriotic then. "Oh, home of the brave, where the deer and the
    antelope play; where seldom is heard a discouraging word, and the
    skies are not cloudy all day."

    But now we are seeing it all fall apart; why, I wonder?

    Well, from the survivalist point of view, it's a matter of human
    nature exposing how animal and opportunistic we are, IMO. I mean,
    look at what's exposed in the news, as an example. https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/crime-courts/2021/08/16/western-alaska-school-district-that-employed-principal-despite-sex-abuse-complaints-will-pay-38-million-to-his-victims/

    It seems obvious that our legal and law enforcement system is not able
    to contain the animal nature of a large percentage of "citizens."
    Prisons in the U.S. with over 2 million are over-flowing, judges fail
    to account for repeat offenders, criminal organizations control not
    only the streets, judges, and police, political parties in government
    are like "foxes engineering the hen house," and federal agencies are
    said to be in collusion with a hidden "dark side."

    American institutions of marriage, family, public education, and
    religion are evidently failing, and anarchy is taking over, with
    iconoclast expressions of revolt. It seems there has been a gradual
    loss of ideals, so that we now are in a phase of survival that accepts
    a different view of human nature, one that TV news and ads show of our
    animal natures. Even criminal organizations like the Mafia are
    pictured as a necessary development of democracy. Our shameful
    government seems far apart from the ideals expressed in the
    Constitution.

    So I'm saying that our predicament is like that of countries when
    chaos reigned before totalitarianism took over. Human nature in all
    its barbaric manifestations are being expressed, using the freedom our democracy allows.

    Irony is that anymore most humans respect animals better than they do
    humans. As Shakespeare has the king say in King Lear: "like flies to
    wanton boys are we to the gods; they kill us for their sport." And it
    does seem that some balance of nature is asserting itself in terms of
    the evils we see coming in illegal aliens taking over, pandemics, wars
    coming, sub-humans running the country, and citizens running amuck.
    Dictionary definition of "amuck" is:

    " Someone running amuck is showing no self-control. This is a word
    that has to do with chaos and disorder. A riot is an example of people
    running amuck. ... This word applies to times when control has been
    lost: people are showing no self-control, and the situation is out of
    hand."

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  • From John W Kennedy@21:1/5 to Dim Witte on Wed Aug 18 18:30:11 2021
    On 8/17/21 10:38 AM, Dim Witte wrote:
    What the framers of the Constitution put together seems very liberal
    and wise at the same time, considering how it describes government and people's rights. For two centuries in America our states and cities
    have taken advantage of freedoms and liberties (assuming they are not
    the same), so that while economy and culture faired well, all seemed copacetic and highly liveable. Americans could be of good will and
    patriotic then. "Oh, home of the brave, where the deer and the
    antelope play; where seldom is heard a discouraging word, and the
    skies are not cloudy all day."

    But now we are seeing it all fall apart; why, I wonder?

    Well, from the survivalist point of view, it's a matter of human
    nature exposing how animal and opportunistic we are, IMO. I mean,
    look at what's exposed in the news, as an example. https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/crime-courts/2021/08/16/western-alaska-school-district-that-employed-principal-despite-sex-abuse-complaints-will-pay-38-million-to-his-victims/

    It seems obvious that our legal and law enforcement system is not able
    to contain the animal nature of a large percentage of "citizens."
    Prisons in the U.S. with over 2 million are over-flowing, judges fail
    to account for repeat offenders, criminal organizations control not
    only the streets, judges, and police, political parties in government
    are like "foxes engineering the hen house," and federal agencies are
    said to be in collusion with a hidden "dark side."

    American institutions of marriage, family, public education, and
    religion are evidently failing, and anarchy is taking over, with
    iconoclast expressions of revolt. It seems there has been a gradual
    loss of ideals, so that we now are in a phase of survival that accepts
    a different view of human nature, one that TV news and ads show of our
    animal natures. Even criminal organizations like the Mafia are
    pictured as a necessary development of democracy. Our shameful
    government seems far apart from the ideals expressed in the
    Constitution.

    So I'm saying that our predicament is like that of countries when
    chaos reigned before totalitarianism took over. Human nature in all
    its barbaric manifestations are being expressed, using the freedom our democracy allows.

    Irony is that anymore most humans respect animals better than they do
    humans. As Shakespeare has the king say in King Lear: "like flies to
    wanton boys are we to the gods; they kill us for their sport." And it
    does seem that some balance of nature is asserting itself in terms of
    the evils we see coming in illegal aliens taking over, pandemics, wars coming, sub-humans running the country, and citizens running amuck. Dictionary definition of "amuck" is:

    " Someone running amuck is showing no self-control. This is a word
    that has to do with chaos and disorder. A riot is an example of people running amuck. ... This word applies to times when control has been
    lost: people are showing no self-control, and the situation is out of
    hand."

    You misspelled “Dim White”.

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  • From John W Kennedy@21:1/5 to Dim Witte on Wed Aug 18 18:33:01 2021
    On 8/17/21 10:38 AM, Dim Witte wrote:
    What the framers of the Constitution put together seems very liberal
    and wise at the same time, considering how it describes government and people's rights. For two centuries in America our states and cities
    have taken advantage of freedoms and liberties (assuming they are not
    the same), so that while economy and culture faired well, all seemed copacetic and highly liveable. Americans could be of good will and
    patriotic then. "Oh, home of the brave, where the deer and the
    antelope play; where seldom is heard a discouraging word, and the
    skies are not cloudy all day."

    But now we are seeing it all fall apart; why, I wonder?

    Well, from the survivalist point of view, it's a matter of human
    nature exposing how animal and opportunistic we are, IMO. I mean,
    look at what's exposed in the news, as an example. https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/crime-courts/2021/08/16/western-alaska-school-district-that-employed-principal-despite-sex-abuse-complaints-will-pay-38-million-to-his-victims/

    It seems obvious that our legal and law enforcement system is not able
    to contain the animal nature of a large percentage of "citizens."
    Prisons in the U.S. with over 2 million are over-flowing, judges fail
    to account for repeat offenders, criminal organizations control not
    only the streets, judges, and police, political parties in government
    are like "foxes engineering the hen house," and federal agencies are
    said to be in collusion with a hidden "dark side."

    American institutions of marriage, family, public education, and
    religion are evidently failing, and anarchy is taking over, with
    iconoclast expressions of revolt. It seems there has been a gradual
    loss of ideals, so that we now are in a phase of survival that accepts
    a different view of human nature, one that TV news and ads show of our
    animal natures. Even criminal organizations like the Mafia are
    pictured as a necessary development of democracy. Our shameful
    government seems far apart from the ideals expressed in the
    Constitution.

    So I'm saying that our predicament is like that of countries when
    chaos reigned before totalitarianism took over. Human nature in all
    its barbaric manifestations are being expressed, using the freedom our democracy allows.

    Irony is that anymore most humans respect animals better than they do
    humans. As Shakespeare has the king say in King Lear: "like flies to
    wanton boys are we to the gods; they kill us for their sport." And it
    does seem that some balance of nature is asserting itself in terms of
    the evils we see coming in illegal aliens taking over, pandemics, wars coming, sub-humans running the country, and citizens running amuck. Dictionary definition of "amuck" is:

    " Someone running amuck is showing no self-control. This is a word
    that has to do with chaos and disorder. A riot is an example of people running amuck. ... This word applies to times when control has been
    lost: people are showing no self-control, and the situation is out of
    hand."

    You misspelled “Dim White”.

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  • From bookburn@21:1/5 to john.w....@gmail.com on Sat Aug 28 00:06:29 2021
    On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 2:33:08 PM UTC-8, john.w....@gmail.com wrote:
    On 8/17/21 10:38 AM, Dim Witte wrote:
    What the framers of the Constitution put together seems very liberal
    and wise at the same time, considering how it describes government and people's rights. For two centuries in America our states and cities
    have taken advantage of freedoms and liberties (assuming they are not
    the same), so that while economy and culture faired well, all seemed copacetic and highly liveable. Americans could be of good will and patriotic then. "Oh, home of the brave, where the deer and the
    antelope play; where seldom is heard a discouraging word, and the
    skies are not cloudy all day."

    But now we are seeing it all fall apart; why, I wonder?

    Well, from the survivalist point of view, it's a matter of human
    nature exposing how animal and opportunistic we are, IMO. I mean,
    look at what's exposed in the news, as an example. https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/crime-courts/2021/08/16/western-alaska-school-district-that-employed-principal-despite-sex-abuse-complaints-will-pay-38-million-to-his-victims/

    It seems obvious that our legal and law enforcement system is not able
    to contain the animal nature of a large percentage of "citizens."
    Prisons in the U.S. with over 2 million are over-flowing, judges fail
    to account for repeat offenders, criminal organizations control not
    only the streets, judges, and police, political parties in government
    are like "foxes engineering the hen house," and federal agencies are
    said to be in collusion with a hidden "dark side."

    American institutions of marriage, family, public education, and
    religion are evidently failing, and anarchy is taking over, with iconoclast expressions of revolt. It seems there has been a gradual
    loss of ideals, so that we now are in a phase of survival that accepts
    a different view of human nature, one that TV news and ads show of our animal natures. Even criminal organizations like the Mafia are
    pictured as a necessary development of democracy. Our shameful
    government seems far apart from the ideals expressed in the
    Constitution.

    So I'm saying that our predicament is like that of countries when
    chaos reigned before totalitarianism took over. Human nature in all
    its barbaric manifestations are being expressed, using the freedom our democracy allows.

    Irony is that anymore most humans respect animals better than they do humans. As Shakespeare has the king say in King Lear: "like flies to wanton boys are we to the gods; they kill us for their sport." And it
    does seem that some balance of nature is asserting itself in terms of
    the evils we see coming in illegal aliens taking over, pandemics, wars coming, sub-humans running the country, and citizens running amuck. Dictionary definition of "amuck" is:

    " Someone running amuck is showing no self-control. This is a word
    that has to do with chaos and disorder. A riot is an example of people running amuck. ... This word applies to times when control has been
    lost: people are showing no self-control, and the situation is out of hand."
    You misspelled “Dim White”.

    My apologies, because "Dim Witte" is the nym I use over at alt. survival news group, and I mistakenly posted here; although I did reference King Lear. Normally I post to hlas as Donald Cameron.

    No idea where you're coming from with "Dim White," unless something like "At the elite colleges - dim white kids - The Boston Globe."

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  • From bookburn@21:1/5 to john.w....@gmail.com on Sat Aug 28 18:04:14 2021
    On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 2:30:17 PM UTC-8, john.w....@gmail.com wrote:
    On 8/17/21 10:38 AM, Dim Witte wrote:
    What the framers of the Constitution put together seems very liberal
    and wise at the same time, considering how it describes government and people's rights. For two centuries in America our states and cities
    have taken advantage of freedoms and liberties (assuming they are not
    the same), so that while economy and culture faired well, all seemed copacetic and highly liveable. Americans could be of good will and patriotic then. "Oh, home of the brave, where the deer and the
    antelope play; where seldom is heard a discouraging word, and the
    skies are not cloudy all day."

    But now we are seeing it all fall apart; why, I wonder?

    Well, from the survivalist point of view, it's a matter of human
    nature exposing how animal and opportunistic we are, IMO. I mean,
    look at what's exposed in the news, as an example. https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/crime-courts/2021/08/16/western-alaska-school-district-that-employed-principal-despite-sex-abuse-complaints-will-pay-38-million-to-his-victims/

    It seems obvious that our legal and law enforcement system is not able
    to contain the animal nature of a large percentage of "citizens."
    Prisons in the U.S. with over 2 million are over-flowing, judges fail
    to account for repeat offenders, criminal organizations control not
    only the streets, judges, and police, political parties in government
    are like "foxes engineering the hen house," and federal agencies are
    said to be in collusion with a hidden "dark side."

    American institutions of marriage, family, public education, and
    religion are evidently failing, and anarchy is taking over, with iconoclast expressions of revolt. It seems there has been a gradual
    loss of ideals, so that we now are in a phase of survival that accepts
    a different view of human nature, one that TV news and ads show of our animal natures. Even criminal organizations like the Mafia are
    pictured as a necessary development of democracy. Our shameful
    government seems far apart from the ideals expressed in the
    Constitution.

    So I'm saying that our predicament is like that of countries when
    chaos reigned before totalitarianism took over. Human nature in all
    its barbaric manifestations are being expressed, using the freedom our democracy allows.

    Irony is that anymore most humans respect animals better than they do humans. As Shakespeare has the king say in King Lear: "like flies to wanton boys are we to the gods; they kill us for their sport." And it
    does seem that some balance of nature is asserting itself in terms of
    the evils we see coming in illegal aliens taking over, pandemics, wars coming, sub-humans running the country, and citizens running amuck. Dictionary definition of "amuck" is:

    " Someone running amuck is showing no self-control. This is a word
    that has to do with chaos and disorder. A riot is an example of people running amuck. ... This word applies to times when control has been
    lost: people are showing no self-control, and the situation is out of hand."
    You misspelled “Dim White”.

    Actually, It was Glouster, not Lear, who spoke. Just a troll to see if any would know the difference.

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  • From John W Kennedy@21:1/5 to bookburn on Sun Aug 29 15:27:31 2021
    On 8/28/21 9:04 PM, bookburn wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 2:30:17 PM UTC-8, john.w....@gmail.com wrote:
    On 8/17/21 10:38 AM, Dim Witte wrote:
    What the framers of the Constitution put together seems very liberal
    and wise at the same time, considering how it describes government and
    people's rights. For two centuries in America our states and cities
    have taken advantage of freedoms and liberties (assuming they are not
    the same), so that while economy and culture faired well, all seemed
    copacetic and highly liveable. Americans could be of good will and
    patriotic then. "Oh, home of the brave, where the deer and the
    antelope play; where seldom is heard a discouraging word, and the
    skies are not cloudy all day."

    But now we are seeing it all fall apart; why, I wonder?

    Well, from the survivalist point of view, it's a matter of human
    nature exposing how animal and opportunistic we are, IMO. I mean,
    look at what's exposed in the news, as an example.
    https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/crime-courts/2021/08/16/western-alaska-school-district-that-employed-principal-despite-sex-abuse-complaints-will-pay-38-million-to-his-victims/

    It seems obvious that our legal and law enforcement system is not able
    to contain the animal nature of a large percentage of "citizens."
    Prisons in the U.S. with over 2 million are over-flowing, judges fail
    to account for repeat offenders, criminal organizations control not
    only the streets, judges, and police, political parties in government
    are like "foxes engineering the hen house," and federal agencies are
    said to be in collusion with a hidden "dark side."

    American institutions of marriage, family, public education, and
    religion are evidently failing, and anarchy is taking over, with
    iconoclast expressions of revolt. It seems there has been a gradual
    loss of ideals, so that we now are in a phase of survival that accepts
    a different view of human nature, one that TV news and ads show of our
    animal natures. Even criminal organizations like the Mafia are
    pictured as a necessary development of democracy. Our shameful
    government seems far apart from the ideals expressed in the
    Constitution.

    So I'm saying that our predicament is like that of countries when
    chaos reigned before totalitarianism took over. Human nature in all
    its barbaric manifestations are being expressed, using the freedom our
    democracy allows.

    Irony is that anymore most humans respect animals better than they do
    humans. As Shakespeare has the king say in King Lear: "like flies to
    wanton boys are we to the gods; they kill us for their sport." And it
    does seem that some balance of nature is asserting itself in terms of
    the evils we see coming in illegal aliens taking over, pandemics, wars
    coming, sub-humans running the country, and citizens running amuck.
    Dictionary definition of "amuck" is:

    " Someone running amuck is showing no self-control. This is a word
    that has to do with chaos and disorder. A riot is an example of people
    running amuck. ... This word applies to times when control has been
    lost: people are showing no self-control, and the situation is out of
    hand."
    You misspelled “Dim White”.

    Actually, It was Glouster, not Lear, who spoke. Just a troll to see if any would know the difference.

    Yes, having played Gloucester in two different productions, I’m quite
    aware of that. I’m more concerned with the neo-Nazi propaganda.

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