• Ring as comic book

    From ggggg9271@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 20 04:31:00 2020
  • From Bert Coules@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 21 08:04:14 2020
    Pity that the review doesn't reproduce any of the artwork beyond the cover.

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  • From ggggg9271@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Bert Coules on Fri Feb 21 05:36:07 2020
    On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 12:04:12 AM UTC-8, Bert Coules wrote:
    Pity that the review doesn't reproduce any of the artwork beyond the cover.

    https://bibliolore.org/2013/05/22/the-ring-recast/

    https://bibliolore.org/2010/01/25/operas-as-graphic-novels/

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  • From ggggg9271@gmail.com@21:1/5 to gggg...@gmail.com on Fri Feb 21 05:53:50 2020
    On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 4:31:01 AM UTC-8, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
    http://thegreenmanreview.com/graphic-literature-3/roy-thomas-and-gil-kanes-richard-wagners-the-ring-of-the-nibelung/

    Something more appropriate for 16-year-olds:

    https://www.darkhorse.com/Books/24-813/The-Ring-of-the-Nibelung-HC#prettyPhoto

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  • From Bert Coules@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 21 19:07:40 2020
    Naked Valkyries? Interesting thought.

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  • From deb@21:1/5 to gggg...@gmail.com on Fri Feb 21 12:52:11 2020
    On Thursday, 20 February 2020 12:31:01 UTC, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
    http://thegreenmanreview.com/graphic-literature-3/roy-thomas-and-gil-kanes-richard-wagners-the-ring-of-the-nibelung/

    It does suffer in translation, doesn't it? But music is the most directly emotional of all the arts, and pictures can only do so much, engaging with eyes alone. At one point, back in the '80s, when a fantasy writer produced a novelization of Mozart's '
    The Magic Flute,' Mike's agent suggested he give the Ring of the Nibelungen the same treatment; he wisely, though regretfully, turned it down.

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  • From Herman van der Woude@21:1/5 to deb on Fri Feb 21 22:35:36 2020
    deb schreef op 21-2-2020 het volgende:
    deb wrote on 21-2-2020 as follows:

    On Thursday, 20 February 2020 12:31:01 UTC, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
    http://thegreenmanreview.com/graphic-literature-3/roy-thomas-and-gil-kanes-richard-wagners-the-ring-of-the-nibelung/

    It does suffer in translation, doesn't it? But music is the most directly emotional of all the arts, and pictures can only do so much, engaging with eyes alone. At one point, back in the '80s, when a fantasy writer produced a novelization of Mozart's 'The Magic Flute,' Mike's agent suggested he give the Ring of the Nibelungen the same treatment; he wisely, though regretfully, turned it down.

    No, Deb, Mike was right, I think. You can indeed tell the Wagner
    version of The Ring of the Nibelung/Twilight of the Gods in prose
    again, but without the music it is at its very best only half the
    story. The story on its own, as Wagner rewrote it (composed it) is a
    strange one, with a lot of plot twists that are not logical, or even unbelievable, whatever you look at, but they make sense in combination
    with the music he wrote for it.
    The music Wagner wrote for his Ring, how beautiful it is on its own
    right (think of some arrangements and recordings which were made in the
    past of The Ring Without Words), only make sense in combination with
    those strange librettos he wrote.
    In short: without the music, the four operas of the Ring are a set of
    strange and illogical stories; without the words to it, the music is
    beautiful, but rather meaningless – but combined you have an
    experience, that you will likely never forget, how awful the staging
    is. And that is quite another tale!

    --
    Met vriendelijke groet,
    Cheers,
    Herman van der Woude

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  • From REP@21:1/5 to gggg...@gmail.com on Fri Feb 21 14:45:31 2020
    On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 5:53:52 AM UTC-8, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 4:31:01 AM UTC-8, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
    http://thegreenmanreview.com/graphic-literature-3/roy-thomas-and-gil-kanes-richard-wagners-the-ring-of-the-nibelung/
    Even for 1997, this looks dated. Maybe that's why I've never heard of it.

    REP

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  • From REP@21:1/5 to Herman van der Woude on Fri Feb 21 14:44:18 2020
    On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 1:35:39 PM UTC-8, Herman van der Woude wrote:
    deb schreef op 21-2-2020 het volgende:
    deb wrote on 21-2-2020 as follows:

    On Thursday, 20 February 2020 12:31:01 UTC, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
    http://thegreenmanreview.com/graphic-literature-3/roy-thomas-and-gil-kanes-richard-wagners-the-ring-of-the-nibelung/

    It does suffer in translation, doesn't it? But music is the most directly emotional of all the arts, and pictures can only do so much, engaging with eyes alone. At one point, back in the '80s, when a fantasy writer produced a
    novelization of Mozart's 'The Magic Flute,' Mike's agent suggested he give the Ring of the Nibelungen the same treatment; he wisely, though regretfully,
    turned it down.

    No, Deb, Mike was right, I think. You can indeed tell the Wagner
    version of The Ring of the Nibelung/Twilight of the Gods in prose
    again, but without the music it is at its very best only half the
    story. The story on its own, as Wagner rewrote it (composed it) is a
    strange one, with a lot of plot twists that are not logical, or even unbelievable, whatever you look at, but they make sense in combination
    with the music he wrote for it.
    The music Wagner wrote for his Ring, how beautiful it is on its own
    right (think of some arrangements and recordings which were made in the
    past of The Ring Without Words), only make sense in combination with
    those strange librettos he wrote.
    In short: without the music, the four operas of the Ring are a set of strange and illogical stories; without the words to it, the music is beautiful, but rather meaningless – but combined you have an
    experience, that you will likely never forget, how awful the staging
    is. And that is quite another tale!

    --
    Met vriendelijke groet,
    Cheers,
    Herman van der Woude

    There's nothing silly or illogical in Wagner's music drama if you ask me. They're the height of drama.

    Of course, some people will say that about Verdi too. Funny how we all see things differently.

    REP

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