I've discovered something a little annoying about xkill.

That is, there doesn't seem to be any way to get out of it without killing anything. Nothing in the man page suggests any way to do this.

I found this out when I happened to run it by accident and then decided I didn't want to kill anything. I was kinda stuck, since I couldn't click
on any window without killing it. (If I could have ssh'd in, I suppose I
could have killed it that way - but this particular machine was not
ssh-able)

Am I missing something? Is there a way?

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Kenny McCormack wrote:

I've discovered something a little annoying about xkill.

That is, there doesn't seem to be any way to get out of it without killing anything. Nothing in the man page suggests any way to do this.

[snip]

Am I missing something? Is there a way?

The man page seems to give clues...
"If a pointer button is pressed over a non-root window, the server will
close its connection to the client that created the window."

"-button number
This option specifies the number of pointer button that should be
used in selecting a window to kill. ... By default, the first button
in the pointer map (which is usually the left-most button) is used."

It looks like, if you don't specify "any" (that is, if you let the button number default), then the /other/ buttons will _abort_ the kill.

Try aborting by pressing the right (or centre) mouse button (assuming that
you didn't specify that button as the kill button).

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In article <p4qtis$avs$1@dont-email.me>,
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote:

Kenny McCormack wrote:

I've discovered something a little annoying about xkill.

That is, there doesn't seem to be any way to get out of it without killing >> anything. Nothing in the man page suggests any way to do this.

[snip]

Am I missing something? Is there a way?

The man page seems to give clues...
"If a pointer button is pressed over a non-root window, the server will
close its connection to the client that created the window."

This implies that you can just click on the desktop background (which is a "root window" (right?)) and it will be a no-op (right?).

I've had mixed results with this. On at least one occasion, my system
started acting generally weird after this - and I'm pretty sure that some system-critical desktop process had, in fact, been killed. So, I've stayed away from this since then.

"-button number
This option specifies the number of pointer button that should be
used in selecting a window to kill. ... By default, the first button
in the pointer map (which is usually the left-most button) is used."

It looks like, if you don't specify "any" (that is, if you let the button >number default), then the /other/ buttons will _abort_ the kill.

Try aborting by pressing the right (or centre) mouse button (assuming that >you didn't specify that button as the kill button).

Yes. That works. Thanks.

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Kenny McCormack wrote:

In article <p4qtis$avs$1@dont-email.me>,
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote:

Kenny McCormack wrote:

I've discovered something a little annoying about xkill.

That is, there doesn't seem to be any way to get out of it without
killing
anything. Nothing in the man page suggests any way to do this.

[snip]

Am I missing something? Is there a way?

The man page seems to give clues...
"If a pointer button is pressed over a non-root window, the server will
close its connection to the client that created the window."

This implies that you can just click on the desktop background (which is a "root window" (right?)) and it will be a no-op (right?).

Given the default xkill commandline
xkill
I've tried a right-click on the desktop, which seems to dismiss xkill with
no side effects. YMMV

I've had mixed results with this. On at least one occasion, my system started acting generally weird after this - and I'm pretty sure that some system-critical desktop process had, in fact, been killed. So, I've
stayed away from this since then.

"-button number
This option specifies the number of pointer button that should be
used in selecting a window to kill. ... By default, the first
button in the pointer map (which is usually the left-most button) is
used."

It looks like, if you don't specify "any" (that is, if you let the button >>number default), then the /other/ buttons will _abort_ the kill.

Try aborting by pressing the right (or centre) mouse button (assuming that >>you didn't specify that button as the kill button).

Yes. That works. Thanks.

You're welcome


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In article <p4rmls$aop$1@news.xmission.com>,
Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:

Given the default xkill commandline
xkill
I've tried a right-click on the desktop, which seems to dismiss xkill with >>no side effects. YMMV

Right - but that's because you "right clicked" and because we've now >established that right-clicking is the magic bullet for how to get out of >xkill without killing anything.

The issue is that before this thread's existence, I didn't know that and, >when I left clicked on the desktop (to get out of xkill), it killed something.

Left-clicking in the background makes it exit without killing anything
for me. But I'm not using anything as sophisticated as a desktop,
just fwm2.

-- Richard

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In article <p4r133$8af$1@dont-email.me>,
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote:
...

This implies that you can just click on the desktop background (which is a >> "root window" (right?)) and it will be a no-op (right?).

Given the default xkill commandline
xkill
I've tried a right-click on the desktop, which seems to dismiss xkill with
no side effects. YMMV

Right - but that's because you "right clicked" and because we've now established that right-clicking is the magic bullet for how to get out of
xkill without killing anything.

The issue is that before this thread's existence, I didn't know that and,
when I left clicked on the desktop (to get out of xkill), it killed something.

Anyway, it is all good, so no worries now.

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still in posession of my wallet.

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On 2018-01-30, Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:

In article <p4qtis$avs$1@dont-email.me>,
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote:

"If a pointer button is pressed over a non-root window, the server will
close its connection to the client that created the window."

This implies that you can just click on the desktop background (which is a "root window" (right?)) and it will be a no-op (right?).

I've had mixed results with this. On at least one occasion, my system started acting generally weird after this - and I'm pretty sure that some system-critical desktop process had, in fact, been killed. So, I've stayed away from this since then.

I seem to remember that some window managers create a
pseudo-root window on top of the real one (don't ask me for what
purpose, that part escapes me now). xkill could conceivably be
fooled into thinking that it is a non-root window.

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 06:11:08 +0000 (UTC)
gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:

In article <p4r133$8af$1@dont-email.me>,
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote:
...

This implies that you can just click on the desktop background (which is a >> "root window" (right?)) and it will be a no-op (right?).

Given the default xkill commandline
xkill
I've tried a right-click on the desktop, which seems to dismiss xkill with >no side effects. YMMV

Right - but that's because you "right clicked" and because we've now established that right-clicking is the magic bullet for how to get out of xkill without killing anything.

The issue is that before this thread's existence, I didn't know that and, when I left clicked on the desktop (to get out of xkill), it killed something.

Anyway, it is all good, so no worries now.

If you're really curious , you can get the list of processes running before starting xkill and compare it with the list of processes running after left clicking on the root window. This way you can see if anything was killed.

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