Message ID: 377930
Posted By: deepdistrust
Posted On: 2006-06-06 16:52:00
Subject: Panglozz losing customers
Recs: 0
Panglozz is losing customers to me. Nobody wants to comment on his irrelevant factoids with the extrememly vague connections. As I mentioned earlier, he has already fallen out of favor with the SEC. (The SEC has several large trash cans all labelled "
Stats For All". They hate him and his overly long documents.)
Now, it seems he has absolutely no customers left. Give it up, Panglozz.
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Message ID: 377942
Posted By: freecode_99
Posted On: 2006-06-06 17:29:00
Subject: Hey Deepy-poo
Recs: 9
So, you care to back this up:
"As I mentioned earlier, he has already fallen out of favor with the SEC. (The SEC has several large trash cans all labelled "Stats For All". They hate him and his overly long documents.)"
Please back iup that assertion. Are you saying that the SEC pays no attention to citizen complaints, or are you saying that the SEC isn't investigating the matter due to improper influence and corruption? And just how would you know? What makes you so
certain?
Your answers will be listened to. Please do make them clear, concise and factual.
Tell us how you, a "non-interested" party would know jack sh*t about what or what not the SEC cares about any other person on the globe. C'mon blowhard - tell us why anyone should give you any credence.
I can't think of any real reason for you to make such claims. I mean, what disinterested party would make such claims unless they were choking their chicken a little too much? The good thing is that you will never procreate. That's a self-saving grace
for the rest of the world.
freecode
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Message ID: 377950
Posted By: deepdistrust
Posted On: 2006-06-06 17:47:00
Subject: Re: Hey Free-poo
Recs: 1
No need to back it up. Just ask the SEC. If you as much as mention stats_for_all, they will stuff *you* in a trash can. Apparently, he has sent them so many inscrutable documents, they got completely fed up with him, and are looking to track him down and
capture him if they can.
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Message ID: 378320
Posted By: deepdistrust
Posted On: 2006-06-07 20:53:00
Subject: Linux Loons' Little White Lies
Recs: 0
When pressed on the subject, Loons claim there are no retail investors. But we see some of them couldn't maintain the pretense long enough, and started talking about "pumpers". Colonel Loon puts up a week excuse about journalists, but he is equally
concerned about "pumpers" (and Wild Fool and Crunchie Loser have openly declared their solidarity with Colonel Loon in that aspect). Panglozz uses multiple nyms to post "bad news" about SCO (mostly his imagination, but still). Give them enough time, and
they will all come clean. They are here on IBM's behalf to keep the stock price in check, so IBM can easily buy SCO off in case of future trouble.
They are paid to post lies on this message board. The Despicable Linux Loons! How low will they sink?
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Message ID: 379878
Posted By: deepdistrust
Posted On: 2006-06-12 16:38:00
Subject: Things are going south
Recs: 4
Things started going south for me very rapidly. One of the Loons seems to have initiated a chain of events that has made things *very* inconvenient for me.
Authorities are approaching from all angles, and I will have to be in a place for an undetermined period of time where I probably won't have an internet connection for more than a couple of hours a day. I will probably use that time on ebay and p0rn
sites rather than waste it here. You will probably not hear from me much for I don't know how long.
Keep an eye on each other while I am gone.
Windows Rules!
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Message ID: 379887
Posted By: akfromak
Posted On: 2006-06-12 17:15:00
Subject: Re: Things are going south
Recs: 3
Authorities are approaching from all angles,...<<
I will probably use that time on ebay and p0rn sites rather than waste it here.<<
So what's the crime, Deep?
Scamming on ebay or are you trafficing kiddie p0rn?
Even on the run, you can't stay away from it?
Or are you just lying *again*?
Alex
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Message ID: 379891
Posted By: stimpsonsaid
Posted On: 2006-06-12 17:38:00
Subject: Re: Things are going south
Recs: 1
< So what's the crime, Deep? >
My lawyer says I should keep my big mouth shut, so I am going to do that.
< Or are you just lying *again*? >
Just like PJ, I *never* lie! ;)
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Message ID: 379896
Posted By: aim_here2002
Posted On: 2006-06-12 18:06:00
Subject: Re: Things are going south
Recs: 3
Lawyers? Keeping quiet?
Could it be that you're NOT Joe Dumb Disillusioned Linux User, and you have legal restrictions on what you're allowed to say on finance related message boards?
Or did you spread one checkable lie too many and actually manage to libel someone?
Oh dear...
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Message ID: 379975
Posted By: deepdistrust
Posted On: 2006-06-12 23:47:00
Subject: Re: Things are going south
Recs: 1
< My lawyer says I should keep my big mouth shut, so I am going to do that. >
I was only kidding, you stupid Linux Loons!
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Message ID: 381025
Posted By: deepdistrust
Posted On: 2006-06-16 12:27:00
Subject: Loon output falling off
Recs: 0
The Loons, led by Chief Loon panglozz, have been crying for their message board back so they can whine better without 'disruption'. I leave them alone, and they hardly fill a page in two hours (of mostly off-topic rants).
Get to work, guys! (Yarro fantasies don't count, mind you! Gates, Ballmer, McBride, Yarro - none of these guys are going to jail. The only one that may be incarcerated in connection with this case is probably panglozz. He is troubling the SEC so much, I
heard they are looking to capture him and teach him a lesson he will not forget!)
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Message ID: 381130
Posted By: panglozz
Posted On: 2006-06-16 17:50:00
Subject: RFC: Nymshifting
Recs: 5
I'm getting dinged by DDT for nymshifting. Is this a hanging offense?
Obviously DDT is cycling through several attacks: SEC/kook letter, nym-shifting, failure to return library books***.
I have noticed a more than a bit of overt hostility between the given name crowd, and the nymshifters. For instance, an anonymous poster (insert irony here) followed me around Groklaw linking back to Y! crossposts.
I'd like to hear from the "who-I-am-and-proud-of-it wing" on whether they hold grudges of the nymshifters.
***my own sarcastic attack, though no one followed up on the straight man jest.
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Message ID: 381162
Posted By: al_petrofsky
Posted On: 2006-06-16 20:14:00
Subject: Re: RFC: Nymshifting
Recs: 1
An acknowledged nymshifter asks:
Is this a hanging offense?
No. It can be annoying, but I certainly
wouldn't attempt to hang anyone for it.
On the other hand, people sometimes make
a metaphorical connection between
"plonking" and capital punishment (in
fact, one commentator has noted that
"under constitutional law, they are
viewed as the same thing in many
instances", see message 275549). As
mentioned in message 380134, there are
some of us who, when filtering posts,
make less use of a black-list and more
use of a white-list -- in other words,
"a file of those few people not to be
killed". To us, you do tend to cause
your own death, at least temporarily,
when you shift 'nyms.
I have noticed a more than a bit of
overt hostility between the given name
crowd, and the nymshifters. For
instance, an anonymous poster (insert
irony here) followed me around Groklaw
linking back to Y! crossposts.
I don't get it.I'm not sure what's
hostile about links to yahoo posts, but
even assuming that these groklaw posts
by an anonymous poster were overtly
hostile to you, then wouldn't that be an
instance of hostility between the
anonymous crowd and the nymshifters?
How is it an instance of hostility
between "the given name crowd" and
anybody? What's the given name of the
member of the given name crowd that was
involved in this instance?
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Message ID: 381253
Posted By: deepdistrust
Posted On: 2006-06-17 09:14:00
Subject: The Loon Hypocricy
Recs: 0
Panglozz tried various methods to send me away from here. He tried to get people to ignore me. He tried threats - subtle and not so subtle. Finally, he started crying, hoping to induce feelings of guilt in me. Now, as I start to stay away, he goes and
starts a thread on nym shifting.
Panglozz doesn't mind off-topic discussions, so long as *he* starts them.
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Message ID: 381266
Posted By: panglozz
Posted On: 2006-06-17 10:10:00
Subject: Re: RFC: Nymshifting
Recs: 11
SSM asks:
For what purpose does stats post under both the stats nym and the panglozz nym?? Seriously. Why do that?<<
"stats" was a very confining persona. I expressed my discomfort with this very early in my first "usenet" style posting career (May 2004), when Al. P. questioned missing sources for a post on the Bert Young relationship with the March First bankruptcy.
I felt recently that "stats" had become an "issue". So it was easier to send him off to a well deserved rest, than try and solve whatever the issue might be. Of course now, Panglozz has created a "stats shifting" issue-- further proof of just how stupid
stats can be.
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Message ID: 381336
Posted By: al_petrofsky
Posted On: 2006-06-17 13:48:00
Subject: Re: RFC: Nymshifting
Recs: 1
Panglozz writes:
"stats" was a very confining
persona. I expressed my discomfort
with this very early in my first
"usenet" style posting career (May
2004) ...
I can't figure out what you mean by
"'usenet' style" here. I remember you
"wah wah"-ing about the "fact-borg"
confines of your persona in September
2004. Is that what you're talking
about?
http://badpenguins.com/yarchive/yaview/?a=vm&bid=1600684464&mid=176310
"Al, I left out the links cause I
jealous of all the folks that can spout
off wittily, and I'm stuck drudging
along dotting my eye teeth. I just want
to be a regular netizen, not some weird
fact borg. Wah wah..."
To which I responded:
http://badpenguins.com/yarchive/yaview/?a=vm&bid=1600684464&mid=176315
"Stats, I'm only going to say this once: I love you, man.
Now pull your fact borg self together."
Panglozz continues:
... (May 2004) when Al. P. questioned
missing sources for a post on the Bert
Young relationship with the March
First bankruptcy.
Hmm. I believe the only thing I wrote
about your sources for the Bert Young
relationship with the MarchFirst
bankruptcy was "Thanks for pointing us
to the VARbusiness article,
stats_for_all" (in message 127118 in
April 2004, in reference to your message
126963).
Speaking of which, I see that both Yahoo
*and* Badpenguins are missing messages
127118 and 127193, probably as a result
of my using a non-malformed URL in them.
I'll repost them in follow-ups to this
message (with h++p-ized URLs), to get
them in to the search databases for all
of us fact borgs.
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Message ID: 382694
Posted By: panglozz
Posted On: 2006-06-23 12:29:00
Subject: On the Deep Troll
Recs: 20
Let's open source the troll intelligence! Sharing knowledge should help prevent the constant troll feeding that pollutes this forum.
I recieved the email reprinted below from a trusted source. So it is second-hand. The source can verify that the communication comes from the personage using the Deep nym. I think pressure on Deep made him realize his run as uber-TFAD was at risk.
Outing him conclusively will probably just bring him back, since fear of exposure is more confining than actual nomination.
Deep's email follows, only formating oddity I noticed was use of multiple spaces to indent paragraphs, the PDT time zone was hinted at in 2005:
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:29:58 -0700 (PDT)
xxxxxxx,
Sorry about replying so late. I only saw this today - I don't use this
email address that much. Thanks for keeping my confidence. Stats_for_all looks
like a good guy, not at all the kind to call people late at night, but still.
Yes, I am trolling, but only partly. I do mean some of the stuff about
Linux supporters' denial and the like. I'm going to give it up "shortly" anyway. No, there is no payment involved!
As for GL, I guess there is no one thing. The general dishonesty, I guess, the extreme rigidity of position, and the tendency to demonize people over disagreements. We may not see eye to eye on this, but I think all these attributes are present in the Linux world at large. (Yeah, I do the same in my
Y!SCOX posts, but I am trolling!)
Thanks again for keeping my information private, and hopefully, I will be able to largely leave you guys alone.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
9 minutes after this mail, Deep posted to SCOX :
Things are going south
by: deepdistrust
06/12/06 04:38 pm
Msg: 379878 of 382100
Â
Things started going south for me very rapidly. One of the Loons seems to have initiated a chain of events that has made things *very* inconvenient for me.
Authorities are approaching from all angles, and I will have to be in a place for an undetermined period of time where I probably won't have an internet connection for more than a couple of hours a day. I will probably use that time on ebay and p0rn
sites rather than waste it here. You will probably not hear from me much for I don't know how long.
Keep an eye on each other while I am gone.
Windows Rules!
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Message ID: 382704
Posted By: heimdal31
Posted On: 2006-06-23 12:45:00
Subject: Re: On the Deep Troll
Recs: 24
Yep. Stats got that e-mail from me. Deep had used the stimpsonsaid nym a few months back and then responded as deepdistrust that the parent was him. Stats yahoeuvred the stimpsonsaid nym and noted evidence that I had had e-mail interaction with it.
Stats wrote me asking for information. I told him that the person writing me as stimpsonsaid had admitted in e-mail in Jan 2005 that he was also deepdistrust but had asked me not to reveal that. I told stats basically that and told him that I intended to
keep the promise I had made to keep it quiet in a reply e-mail back in 2005.
I did write to ddt using the old e-mail I had and got no response. I told all of that to stats. Just last week, some time after my most recent e-mail to deep, I got a response. I shared it with stats after stripping headers and other identifying
information. I also told deep that I actually agreed with some of his points regarding the problems in the linux crowd and that if he weren't so over the top, that I would rec more of his posts and that he might even get some serious conversation going.
There is no need for anyone to ask me for further information because I did make a promise to keep a confidence. I intend to continue that.
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