• looking for an old Unix book

    From Eli the Bearded@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 14 22:37:30 2017
    XPost: comp.unix.questions

    When I started out with Unix, someone gave me a second-hand book. This
    was in the 1991-1992 timeframe. I learned a lot from that book and I
    later passed the book on to another person for them to learn from.

    Now decades later, I'd like to relocate a copy of that book, but I don't remember the title or author. General searches of second hand computer
    books have not been fruitful so far.

    Probably the best way I can positively identify it as the same book, is
    the cover. This one had a picture of the planet springing to life[*]
    at the end of _Star Trek: Wrath of Khan_ because the special effects had
    some tenuous connection to Unix, such as the graphics software ran on a
    Unix system.

    That book taught me things about the standard utilities, kernel tuning
    with adb, why ed is useful, etc. I'd kinda like to get the book and see
    how well the advice has held up in Linux almost everywhere world.
    Clearly adb isn't used for kernel tuning any more (and most people
    don't even know about the assembly debugger, preferring to think of the
    Android program), but I still use ed knowledge, even if it mostly is
    from the : line of vi / ex / vim.

    Is there anyone left reading here? And who knows the book I describe?
    A title and author would be great.

    [*] Or whatever, it's been a long time since I've seen the book, and I
    saw the book more recently than I've watched _Wrath of Khan_.

    Elijah
    ------
    decided long ago that he didn't care about Star Trek

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  • From Randal L. Schwartz@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 15 16:37:56 2017
    XPost: comp.unix.questions

    "EtB" == Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> writes:

    Is there anyone left reading here?

    Hi Eli. Sorry I can't help you... the googles aren't helping.

    --
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  • From Eli the Bearded@21:1/5 to Randal L. Schwartz on Thu Nov 16 00:56:31 2017
    XPost: comp.unix.questions

    In comp.unix.questions, Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com> wrote:
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> writes:
    Is there anyone left reading here?
    Hi Eli. Sorry I can't help you... the googles aren't helping.

    Nice to know the message was read at least. I've been stopping in comp.lang.perl.misc from time to time and noticed you've started
    visiting that group again.

    Do you still have a SOURCE license for your car? I understand they have
    a lot of code in them these days.

    Elijah
    ------
    those LoC numbers probably include the Linux kernel in the radio though...

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  • From Phil Dobbin@21:1/5 to Eli the Bearded on Thu Nov 16 05:23:09 2017
    On Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:37:31 UTC, Eli the Bearded wrote:
    When I started out with Unix, someone gave me a second-hand book. This
    was in the 1991-1992 timeframe. I learned a lot from that book and I
    later passed the book on to another person for them to learn from.

    Now decades later, I'd like to relocate a copy of that book, but I don't remember the title or author. General searches of second hand computer
    books have not been fruitful so far.

    Probably the best way I can positively identify it as the same book, is
    the cover. This one had a picture of the planet springing to life[*]
    at the end of _Star Trek: Wrath of Khan_ because the special effects had
    some tenuous connection to Unix, such as the graphics software ran on a
    Unix system.

    That book taught me things about the standard utilities, kernel tuning
    with adb, why ed is useful, etc. I'd kinda like to get the book and see
    how well the advice has held up in Linux almost everywhere world.
    Clearly adb isn't used for kernel tuning any more (and most people
    don't even know about the assembly debugger, preferring to think of the Android program), but I still use ed knowledge, even if it mostly is
    from the : line of vi / ex / vim.

    Is there anyone left reading here? And who knows the book I describe?
    A title and author would be great.

    [*] Or whatever, it's been a long time since I've seen the book, and I
    saw the book more recently than I've watched _Wrath of Khan_.

    Elijah
    ------
    decided long ago that he didn't care about Star Trek

    Hi.

    The only tome that I can think about (this version is from 1995) is:

    <https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0131510517/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I26UNIVWET7NAI&colid=FNVWAZMWYDBS>

    The cover photo does not look like Star Trek but it's kinda like the same buzz & is distinct.

    I've bought every version of this book since the 2nd version & was saddened to hear of Evi Nemeth being lost at sea off New Zealand a few years back. She was the driving force behind the book and I'd like to think she be happy to see a new version come
    out a few months ago.

    Cheers, Phil.

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  • From Doug McIntyre@21:1/5 to Eli the Bearded on Thu Nov 16 10:48:34 2017
    XPost: comp.unix.questions

    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> writes:
    When I started out with Unix, someone gave me a second-hand book. This
    was in the 1991-1992 timeframe. I learned a lot from that book and I
    later passed the book on to another person for them to learn from.

    Now decades later, I'd like to relocate a copy of that book, but I don't >remember the title or author. General searches of second hand computer
    books have not been fruitful so far.


    You could probably search a used book reseller like https://www.alibris.com
    for unix books and see if any of the many 1000s that come up match
    what you remember.


    --
    Doug McIntyre
    doug@themcintyres.us

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  • From Eli the Bearded@21:1/5 to Joe Morris on Fri Nov 17 20:55:26 2017
    XPost: comp.unix.questions

    In comp.unix.questions, Joe Morris <jolomo@gmail.com> wrote:
    Not so long ago in comp.unix.questions, Eli the Bearded wrote:
    Probably the best way I can positively identify it as the same book, is
    the cover. This one had a picture of the planet springing to life[*]
    at the end of _Star Trek: Wrath of Khan_ because the special effects had some tenuous connection to Unix, such as the graphics software ran on a Unix system.
    Could it be something like this System V/386 book? https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_attunixSysIXSystemV386Release3.2SystemAdministrato_33969124

    It's not that book. The cover was definitely _Wrath of Khan_, while that
    is multi-colored Earth.

    Bitsavers seems interesting, but they don't seem to have a lot of
    general materials, focusing on more specific company stuff it seems. I
    recall this was a general Unix book, not one for a specific flavor. (But
    it may have leaned to SysV and away from BSD.)

    Good luck finding it. Too bad abebooks.com has so few cover images

    Yes. And too bad that I have such a terrible memory for names.
    Archive.org has covers for everything (that started as a book), but
    doesn't seem to have this book, having scrolled through pages and pages
    of images. Good idea, though.

    Elijah
    ------
    maybe one of the old computer magazines will have a book review

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  • From Joe Morris@21:1/5 to Eli the Bearded on Fri Nov 17 20:21:01 2017
    XPost: comp.unix.questions

    Not so long ago in comp.unix.questions, Eli the Bearded wrote:
    When I started out with Unix, someone gave me a second-hand book. This
    was in the 1991-1992 timeframe. I learned a lot from that book and I
    later passed the book on to another person for them to learn from.

    Now decades later, I'd like to relocate a copy of that book, but I don't remember the title or author. General searches of second hand computer
    books have not been fruitful so far.

    Probably the best way I can positively identify it as the same book, is
    the cover. This one had a picture of the planet springing to life[*]
    at the end of _Star Trek: Wrath of Khan_ because the special effects had
    some tenuous connection to Unix, such as the graphics software ran on a
    Unix system.

    Could it be something like this System V/386 book? https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_attunixSysIXSystemV386Release3.2SystemAdministrato_33969124

    Good luck finding it. Too bad abebooks.com has so few cover images

    --
    Joe Morris Atlanta history blog
    jolomo@gmail.com http://atlhistory.com

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  • From Randal L. Schwartz@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 24 09:25:27 2017
    XPost: comp.unix.questions

    "EtB" == Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> writes:

    Do you still have a SOURCE license for your car? I understand they have
    a lot of code in them these days.

    Yes, SOURCE has been on 4 different vehicles... currently on my 2002
    Z28. My brother had BINARY right up to the time of his death. I have
    the plates in my shrine to him.

    --
    Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <merlyn@stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
    Perl/Unix/Dart consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
    Still trying to think of something clever for the fourth line of this .sig

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  • From simpleton@simple.gopher@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 9 15:01:59 2017
    XPost: comp.unix.questions

    When I started out with Unix, someone gave me a second-hand book. This
    was in the 1991-1992 timeframe. I learned a lot from that book and I
    later passed the book on to another person for them to learn from.

    Now decades later, I'd like to relocate a copy of that book, but I don't remember the title or author. General searches of second hand computer
    books have not been fruitful so far.

    Probably the best way I can positively identify it as the same book, is
    the cover. This one had a picture of the planet springing to life[*]
    at the end of _Star Trek: Wrath of Khan_ because the special effects had
    some tenuous connection to Unix, such as the graphics software ran on a
    Unix system.

    Maybe it's "C and UNIX : Tools for Software Design" ? Sort of looks like
    what you've described WRT 'The Genesis Device' in action.

    Several used copies in the usual places; I might pick one up myself..

    Book details:

    Synopsis
    An excellent introduction to the essential features of C and UNIX,
    designed to encourage readers to use them together in order to write
    more powerful and more efficient programs. Software design is emphasized throughout the text and every chapter includes a thorough synopsis,
    review problems with answers as well as several programming problems. The appendices contain solutions for nearly all review problems plus summaries
    of C, UNIX and vi commands, standard function libraries and C operator precedences.

    Product Identifiers
    ISBN-10 0471309273
    ISBN-13 9780471309277

    Key Details
    Author Clifford H. Wagner, Martin L. Barrett
    Number Of Pages 464 pages
    Format Paperback
    Language English
    Publisher Wiley & Sons, Incorporated, John
    Publication Year 1995

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  • From Eli the Bearded@21:1/5 to simpleton@simple.gopher on Sun Dec 10 04:50:19 2017
    XPost: comp.unix.questions

    In comp.unix.questions, <simpleton@simple.gopher> wrote:
    When I started out with Unix, someone gave me a second-hand book. This
    was in the 1991-1992 timeframe. I learned a lot from that book and I
    ^^^^^^^^^

    Publication Year 1995
    ^^^^

    Definitely too late. I had A/UX 2.0 and the Quadras had not been
    released yet when I was reading the book. Thanks for the suggestion,
    though.

    Elijah
    ------
    had forgotten the phrase "Genesis Device"

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  • From simpleton@simple.gopher@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 11 16:49:29 2017
    XPost: comp.unix.questions

    When I started out with Unix, someone gave me a second-hand book. This
    was in the 1991-1992 timeframe. I learned a lot from that book and I

    Publication Year 1995
    ^^^^
    Definitely too late. I had A/UX 2.0 and the Quadras had not been
    released yet when I was reading the book. Thanks for the suggestion,
    though.

    Elijah
    ------
    had forgotten the phrase "Genesis Device"

    Heh, no problem. I did notice the later date but human memory being
    a rather malleable thing I thought it might still be The One.

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  • From Eli the Bearded@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 17 02:03:14 2020
    XPost: comp.unix.questions

    In November 2017, I wrote here (c.u.question and c.u.misc):
    When I started out with Unix, someone gave me a second-hand book. This
    was in the 1991-1992 timeframe. I learned a lot from that book and I
    later passed the book on to another person for them to learn from.

    Now decades later, I'd like to relocate a copy of that book, but I don't remember the title or author. General searches of second hand computer
    books have not been fruitful so far.

    Probably the best way I can positively identify it as the same book, is
    the cover. This one had a picture of the planet springing to life[*]
    at the end of _Star Trek: Wrath of Khan_ because the special effects had
    some tenuous connection to Unix, such as the graphics software ran on a
    Unix system.

    That book taught me things about the standard utilities, kernel tuning
    with adb, why ed is useful, etc. I'd kinda like to get the book and see
    how well the advice has held up in Linux almost everywhere world.
    Clearly adb isn't used for kernel tuning any more (and most people
    don't even know about the assembly debugger, preferring to think of the Android program), but I still use ed knowledge, even if it mostly is
    from the : line of vi / ex / vim.

    There were a bunch of suggestions, but no one had _the_ answer. I'm
    reporting back today to say that I've figured it out.

    I saw some references to Khan this week, so I tried my periodic search
    again. Today, I used Bing image search for "{year} unix book" with years
    of 1990, 1989, and then 1988. Up popped an image from Abe Books UK that
    looked right:

    https://i.imgur.com/IzB33Px.jpg

    Kaare Christian's _The Unix Operation System_, second edition, published
    in 1988.

    The preface to the third edition (1994) can be read at archive.org, (or
    the whole book "borrowed" with an account) and the first page of that
    preface (page 6 as scanned, page v as numbered), confirms it for me:

    https://archive.org/details/unixoperatingsys00chri/page/n5/mode/2up

    Both the first and second editions of this book were notable for the
    cover, a single frame from the movie _Star Trek II, The Wrath of
    Khan_. The image was created by Ed Catmull, Alvy Ray Smith, and
    others at Lucas Film Ltd, and at the time was the state of the art
    of computer graphics.

    First edition was 1984, which would be too old to be the one I read.

    I've found a copy, I think of second edition, for sale by Goodwill of
    Seattle and ordered it today, ~$12 with shipping.

    Archive.org's second edition copy:

    https://archive.org/details/unixoperatingsys0000chri

    You can't preview that one far enough to read about the cover.

    Elijah
    ------
    those bing image search results included some distinctly not Unix results

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  • From met@ph.or@21:1/5 to Eli the Bearded on Mon Aug 17 10:39:29 2020
    XPost: comp.unix.questions

    On 8/16/20 8:03 PM, Eli the Bearded wrote:
    In November 2017, I wrote here (c.u.question and c.u.misc):
    When I started out with Unix, someone gave me a second-hand book. This
    was in the 1991-1992 timeframe. I learned a lot from that book and I
    later passed the book on to another person for them to learn from.

    Now decades later, I'd like to relocate a copy of that book, but I don't
    remember the title or author. General searches of second hand computer
    books have not been fruitful so far.

    Probably the best way I can positively identify it as the same book, is
    the cover. This one had a picture of the planet springing to life[*]
    at the end of _Star Trek: Wrath of Khan_ because the special effects had
    some tenuous connection to Unix, such as the graphics software ran on a
    Unix system.

    That book taught me things about the standard utilities, kernel tuning
    with adb, why ed is useful, etc. I'd kinda like to get the book and see
    how well the advice has held up in Linux almost everywhere world.
    Clearly adb isn't used for kernel tuning any more (and most people
    don't even know about the assembly debugger, preferring to think of the
    Android program), but I still use ed knowledge, even if it mostly is
    from the : line of vi / ex / vim.

    There were a bunch of suggestions, but no one had _the_ answer. I'm
    reporting back today to say that I've figured it out.

    I saw some references to Khan this week, so I tried my periodic search
    again. Today, I used Bing image search for "{year} unix book" with years
    of 1990, 1989, and then 1988. Up popped an image from Abe Books UK that looked right:

    https://i.imgur.com/IzB33Px.jpg

    Kaare Christian's _The Unix Operation System_, second edition, published
    in 1988.

    The preface to the third edition (1994) can be read at archive.org, (or
    the whole book "borrowed" with an account) and the first page of that
    preface (page 6 as scanned, page v as numbered), confirms it for me:

    https://archive.org/details/unixoperatingsys00chri/page/n5/mode/2up

    Both the first and second editions of this book were notable for the
    cover, a single frame from the movie _Star Trek II, The Wrath of
    Khan_. The image was created by Ed Catmull, Alvy Ray Smith, and
    others at Lucas Film Ltd, and at the time was the state of the art
    of computer graphics.

    First edition was 1984, which would be too old to be the one I read.

    I've found a copy, I think of second edition, for sale by Goodwill of
    Seattle and ordered it today, ~$12 with shipping.

    Archive.org's second edition copy:

    https://archive.org/details/unixoperatingsys0000chri

    You can't preview that one far enough to read about the cover.

    Elijah
    ------
    those bing image search results included some distinctly not Unix results


    Heh, glad you found your book and it jived with your memory. When you
    first posted I was picturing something different, basically a planet
    undergoing transformation.

    Think this is the frame from the film's terraforming sequence:

    https://youtu.be/jKOwIVjwSPc?t=115

    Enjoy your book reunion!

    -m4

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  • From Eli the Bearded@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 18 19:06:13 2020
    XPost: comp.unix.questions

    In comp.unix.questions, <met@ph.or> wrote:
    [ Archive.org's second edition copy:
    https://archive.org/details/unixoperatingsys0000chri
    ]
    Heh, glad you found your book and it jived with your memory. When you
    first posted I was picturing something different, basically a planet undergoing transformation.

    That's certainly how I remembered it and probably described it, but what
    a "transformation" looks like can vary in one's mind's eye.

    Think this is the frame from the film's terraforming sequence: https://youtu.be/jKOwIVjwSPc?t=115

    About there. I hadn't seen that sequence since about when the movie was
    new.

    Enjoy your book reunion!

    Hasn't arrived yet, but I plan to.

    Elijah
    ------
    became less of a Trek fan over the course of the eighties

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