On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 1:52:33 PM UTC-5, Carlos Murillo wrote:anybody have by any chance an /etc/mount binary that you could share?
Greetings everyone;
I have recently started to work on bringing up an old 7012-320H that I was given a few years ago. I have pinpointed part of the boot problems to the fact that the machine does not have an /etc/mount binary; the installed AIX version is 3.1 . Does
Regards,
Carlos Murillo.
are you installing from a graphics display or from a serial terminal?
Greetings everyone;anybody have by any chance an /etc/mount binary that you could share?
I have recently started to work on bringing up an old 7012-320H that I was given a few years ago. I have pinpointed part of the boot problems to the fact that the machine does not have an /etc/mount binary; the installed AIX version is 3.1 . Does
Regards,
Carlos Murillo.
On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 2:19:22 PM UTC-5, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:Does anybody have by any chance an /etc/mount binary that you could share?
On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 1:52:33 PM UTC-5, Carlos Murillo wrote:
Greetings everyone;
I have recently started to work on bringing up an old 7012-320H that I was given a few years ago. I have pinpointed part of the boot problems to the fact that the machine does not have an /etc/mount binary; the installed AIX version is 3.1 .
Regards,
Carlos Murillo.
are you installing from a graphics display or from a serial terminal?
From a serial console; this machine is headless.
On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 2:26:57 PM UTC-5, Carlos Murillo wrote:Does anybody have by any chance an /etc/mount binary that you could share?
On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 2:19:22 PM UTC-5, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:
On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 1:52:33 PM UTC-5, Carlos Murillo wrote:
Greetings everyone;
I have recently started to work on bringing up an old 7012-320H that I was given a few years ago. I have pinpointed part of the boot problems to the fact that the machine does not have an /etc/mount binary; the installed AIX version is 3.1 .
Regards,
Carlos Murillo.
are you installing from a graphics display or from a serial terminal?
From a serial console; this machine is headless.
Do you have the original install media?
Greetings everyone;anybody have by any chance an /etc/mount binary that you could share?
I have recently started to work on bringing up an old 7012-320H that I was given a few years ago. I have pinpointed part of the boot problems to the fact that the machine does not have an /etc/mount binary; the installed AIX version is 3.1 . Does
Regards,
Carlos Murillo.
I've got a 320 over here i've been meaning to restore. it had drives in it, but when it arrived, the drives were toast. what a pain in the ass machine this is -- in addition to it's desire for a speaker keyboard, it takes some nonsense cable adapterto create a serial port. I finally assembled all of the parts I thought I would need, only to find out the holes in the hard disk sled, they really only align with the old IBM drives.
I'm almost sure they dumped my IBM 2GB F/W drive stock when we moved warehouses, so I'm more than slightly annoyed.
I don't know what to tell you about your mount malfunction. I started my AIX journey about six months ago with a -39H, a machine much more forgiving than the -320 -- well, only as far as interfaces go, I did blow the fucker up once already)
I really only have less than basic knowledge of 4.3.3 and 5.1. Maybe I know a little bit more, but nothing of any kind of teachable degree. There doesn't seem to be many folks chatty on the forum, and I didn't want to leave you without a response.
but, are you in love with 3.1? the -320 should be able to run 4.3.3 I think.. attach a scsi cdrom to an open box, boot from the cd and lay a new AIX down..
I'll be around if you want to bounce ideas or whatever. OH, and if you do find 3.xx media, let me know !!
Thanks,
Lorenzo
On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 10:05:13 AM UTC-5, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:adapter to create a serial port. I finally assembled all of the parts I thought I would need, only to find out the holes in the hard disk sled, they really only align with the old IBM drives.
I've got a 320 over here i've been meaning to restore. it had drives in it, but when it arrived, the drives were toast. what a pain in the ass machine this is -- in addition to it's desire for a speaker keyboard, it takes some nonsense cable
strings in it were related to errors while _unmounting_ . This made me think that perhaps the mount binary was the same as the /etc/unmount binary, which was present, and on execution it changes its behavior according to its name. So I copied /etc/I'm almost sure they dumped my IBM 2GB F/W drive stock when we moved warehouses, so I'm more than slightly annoyed.
I don't know what to tell you about your mount malfunction. I started my AIX journey about six months ago with a -39H, a machine much more forgiving than the -320 -- well, only as far as interfaces go, I did blow the fucker up once already)
I really only have less than basic knowledge of 4.3.3 and 5.1. Maybe I know a little bit more, but nothing of any kind of teachable degree. There doesn't seem to be many folks chatty on the forum, and I didn't want to leave you without a response.
but, are you in love with 3.1? the -320 should be able to run 4.3.3 I think.. attach a scsi cdrom to an open box, boot from the cd and lay a new AIX down..
I'll be around if you want to bounce ideas or whatever. OH, and if you do find 3.xx media, let me know !!
Thanks,
Lorenzo
Thanks, Lorenzo. I have actually made good progress: I inspected the image of the hard drive, hoping to find an image of the deleted mount command. I did find it and scraped the binary off the hard drive image, and to my surprise, some of the
The system comes with cc, c89, xlc (all dinosaurs) and cobol. It also has Qcalc, a text-based spreadsheet! I ran a few benchmarks (hanoi, whetstone, flops) and was surprised that it was somewhat faster than I expected; the flops benchmark tops 12MFlops, for example.
I had experience from userland with AIX back in the 90's in the context of an SP2 Blue Gene cluster when I was a grad student, but it is only now (couple of weeks in my scarce spare time) that I have been learning the admin side, so it is all new tome. Very BSD-ish and weird.
I also thought about installing 4.3.3 (I have the media), but I wonder if a 320H with just 32MB RAM will be too sluggish under 4.3.3 ...transferred stuff using kermit at 9600 baud.
For the time being, I used the included /usr/bin/xmodem command to transfer some tarred files and got gkermit compiled and running to be able to better transfer source tar files and start building a better toolchain. It's been a long while since I
Carlos.
if you can get it networked, use ftp from a modern machine, that's how i've been moving files to and from the boxes here... great you're making progress !!
On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 10:05:13 AM UTC-5, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:to create a serial port. I finally assembled all of the parts I thought I would need, only to find out the holes in the hard disk sled, they really only align with the old IBM drives.
I've got a 320 over here i've been meaning to restore. it had drives in it, but when it arrived, the drives were toast. what a pain in the ass machine this is -- in addition to it's desire for a speaker keyboard, it takes some nonsense cable adapter
strings in it were related to errors while _unmounting_ . This made me think that perhaps the mount binary was the same as the /etc/unmount binary, which was present, and on execution it changes its behavior according to its name. So I copied /etc/
I'm almost sure they dumped my IBM 2GB F/W drive stock when we moved warehouses, so I'm more than slightly annoyed.
I don't know what to tell you about your mount malfunction. I started my AIX journey about six months ago with a -39H, a machine much more forgiving than the -320 -- well, only as far as interfaces go, I did blow the fucker up once already)
I really only have less than basic knowledge of 4.3.3 and 5.1. Maybe I know a little bit more, but nothing of any kind of teachable degree. There doesn't seem to be many folks chatty on the forum, and I didn't want to leave you without a response.
but, are you in love with 3.1? the -320 should be able to run 4.3.3 I think.. attach a scsi cdrom to an open box, boot from the cd and lay a new AIX down..
I'll be around if you want to bounce ideas or whatever. OH, and if you do find 3.xx media, let me know !!
Thanks,
Lorenzo
Thanks, Lorenzo. I have actually made good progress: I inspected the image of the hard drive, hoping to find an image of the deleted mount command. I did find it and scraped the binary off the hard drive image, and to my surprise, some of the
The system comes with cc, c89, xlc (all dinosaurs) and cobol. It also has Qcalc, a text-based spreadsheet! I ran a few benchmarks (hanoi, whetstone, flops) and was surprised that it was somewhat faster than I expected; the flops benchmark tops 12MFlops, for example.
I had experience from userland with AIX back in the 90's in the context of an SP2 Blue Gene cluster when I was a grad student, but it is only now (couple of weeks in my scarce spare time) that I have been learning the admin side, so it is all new tome. Very BSD-ish and weird.
I also thought about installing 4.3.3 (I have the media), but I wonder if a 320H with just 32MB RAM will be too sluggish under 4.3.3 ...
Does this old version of AIX have mksysb?-
Keep in mind that RIOS/POWER1 is a superscalar design and with execution width that other architectures didn't match for quite a while. It's possible to get 4 instructions per clock (a branch, a condition-register instruction, a fixed-point instruction, and a floating-point-
instruction) which could include a FMA (fused-multiply add) going on
this implementation.
Yes that would be a bad time. AIX 3.2.5 would be best for that config. Although 4.1 and 4.2 might be ok too but I don't have a lot of
experience with those.
Regards,
Kevin
Yes, there is mksysb.
The included compiler can't build gnu make or binutils.
I haven't found any install media for AIX 3.2.5 either.
Carlos Murillo wrote:
Yes, there is mksysb.
AIX w/o mksysb is hard to imagine.
The included compiler can't build gnu make or binutils.
Well, it's old.
Otoh, often enough, the culprit is not the compiler, but those braindead configure scripts, which treat everything as "gcc".
There seems to be some AIX 3.1 stuff left over at
stuff.mit.edu/afs/athena/system/rs_aix31
I haven't found any install media for AIX 3.2.5 either.
No surprise here. It's IBM IP.
But quite a few folks have those in their closet.
But I'd stay with 3.1.
It's odd, but almost impossible to find these days.
3.2.5 is a good landing version for a 320.
I'd stay away from 4.x unless you have a lot of RAM.
If you have 4.3.3 media, a 43P-140 would be a good match.
Carlos Murillo wrote:
Yes, there is mksysb.
AIX w/o mksysb is hard to imagine.
The included compiler can't build gnu make or binutils.
Well, it's old.
Otoh, often enough, the culprit is not the compiler, but those braindead configure scripts, which treat everything as "gcc".
There seems to be some AIX 3.1 stuff left over at
stuff.mit.edu/afs/athena/system/rs_aix31
I haven't found any install media for AIX 3.2.5 either.
No surprise here. It's IBM IP.
But quite a few folks have those in their closet.
But I'd stay with 3.1.
It's odd, but almost impossible to find these days.
3.2.5 is a good landing version for a 320.
I'd stay away from 4.x unless you have a lot of RAM.
If you have 4.3.3 media, a 43P-140 would be a good match.
But I'd stay with 3.1.
It's odd, but almost impossible to find these days.
3.2.5 is a good landing version for a 320.
I'd stay away from 4.x unless you have a lot of RAM.
If you have 4.3.3 media, a 43P-140 would be a good match.
Speak of the devil, I just found 3.1.5 on 2 QIC cartridges in a
warehouse. Will image at some point. Would like to trade for 3.2.5,
4.1, 4.2 sets.
Regards,
Kevin
Carlos Murillo wrote:
Yes, there is mksysb.
AIX w/o mksysb is hard to imagine.
The included compiler can't build gnu make or binutils.
Well, it's old.
Otoh, often enough, the culprit is not the compiler, but those braindead configure scripts, which treat everything as "gcc".
There seems to be some AIX 3.1 stuff left over at
stuff.mit.edu/afs/athena/system/rs_aix31
I haven't found any install media for AIX 3.2.5 either.
No surprise here. It's IBM IP.
But quite a few folks have those in their closet.
But I'd stay with 3.1.
It's odd, but almost impossible to find these days.
3.2.5 is a good landing version for a 320.
I'd stay away from 4.x unless you have a lot of RAM.
If you have 4.3.3 media, a 43P-140 would be a good match.
On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 4:02:24 PM UTC, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:
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i wonder if it was ever on cd... lol
If I'm not mistaken, the support for AIX on CD came out with 3.2.5e or 3.2.5
[...]
i wonder if it was ever on cd... lol
On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 12:19:12 PM UTC-4, Jose Pina Coelho wrote:
On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 4:02:24 PM UTC, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:
[...]
i wonder if it was ever on cd... lol
If I'm not mistaken, the support for AIX on CD came out with 3.2.5e or 3.2.5
Thanks Jose !
(do you have it? haha)
On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 6:09:09 PM UTC, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:
On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 12:19:12 PM UTC-4, Jose Pina Coelho wrote:
On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 4:02:24 PM UTC, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:
[...]
i wonder if it was ever on cd... lol
If I'm not mistaken, the support for AIX on CD came out with 3.2.5e or 3.2.5
Thanks Jose !
(do you have it? haha)
Errr, no. They were eaten by a Grue.
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