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  • Telnet Deprecation & Talkers

    From Louis Epstein@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 23 10:06:14 2023
    I have gotten the subscription DVD of 12.4 and
    freebsd-update is telling me I need to upgrade 12.3.

    On the back of the DVD case it says
    * The telnetd(8) daemon has been deprecated.

    Among other out-of-style software are talkers,
    I have one I have hosted,and in years past have
    reached ones hosted elsewhere by telnet.

    Do other options (e.g. ssh) allow you to log
    in to a talker,or let others log into talkers
    you host?
    (I believe what I have runs on Amnuts,have
    not launched in some years but don't want to
    lose the capability).

    -=-=-
    The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
    at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 23 11:45:15 2023
    Am 23.01.2023 um 10:06:14 Uhr schrieb Louis Epstein:

    Do other options (e.g. ssh) allow you to log
    in to a talker,or let others log into talkers
    you host?

    ncat

    -=-=-
    The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
    at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

    Can you please stop sending that spam here?
    If not: PLONK.

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  • From Louis Epstein@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Wed Jan 25 06:58:13 2023
    Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
    Am 23.01.2023 um 10:06:14 Uhr schrieb Louis Epstein:

    Do other options (e.g. ssh) allow you to log
    in to a talker,or let others log into talkers
    you host?

    ncat

    I'm not seeing that as a man page or a port?

    -=-=-
    The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
    at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

    Can you please stop sending that spam here?
    If not: PLONK.


    I've been signing off messages this way since
    September 2001 (by deliberate copy-in,not a
    default save) and will continue to do so as long
    as what's on the 16 acres remains inadequate.

    http://www.lekno.ws/wtc

    I regret your lack of understanding of the symbolism
    of rebuilding what was destroyed undiminished.

    -=-=-
    The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
    at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 25 09:04:28 2023
    Am 25.01.2023 um 06:58:13 Uhr schrieb Louis Epstein:

    Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
    Am 23.01.2023 um 10:06:14 Uhr schrieb Louis Epstein:

    Do other options (e.g. ssh) allow you to log
    in to a talker,or let others log into talkers
    you host?

    ncat

    I'm not seeing that as a man page or a port?

    Then search for it and compile yourself.

    I've been signing off messages this way since
    September 2001 (by deliberate copy-in,not a
    default save) and will continue to do so as long
    as what's on the 16 acres remains inadequate.

    Ok, you are posting bullshit for more than 20 years.

    http://www.lekno.ws/wtc

    Doesn't work.

    I regret your lack of understanding of the symbolism
    of rebuilding what was destroyed undiminished.

    Wrong group.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoOne@21:1/5 to Louis Epstein on Wed Jan 25 18:55:32 2023
    On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 06:58:13 +0000, Louis Epstein wrote:

    I've been signing off messages this way since September 2001 (by
    deliberate copy-in,not a default save) and will continue to do so as long
    as what's on the 16 acres remains inadequate.

    A sig starts wit <dash><dash><space> on a line on it's own.
    After at least 20 years of using Usenet, you ought to know that by now
    Many newsreader can then either not display it at all, or at least
    auto-strip it in replies/quotes. There's a reason it's a standard.

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  • From DaveG@21:1/5 to NoOne on Wed Jan 25 18:57:59 2023
    On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 18:55:32 +0000, NoOne wrote:

    On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 06:58:13 +0000, Louis Epstein wrote:

    I've been signing off messages this way since September 2001 (by
    deliberate copy-in,not a default save) and will continue to do so as long
    as what's on the 16 acres remains inadequate.

    A sig starts wit <dash><dash><space> on a line on it's own.
    After at least 20 years of using Usenet, you ought to know that by now
    Many newsreader can then either not display it at all, or at least
    auto-strip it in replies/quotes. There's a reason it's a standard.

    Sorry, I forgot to add that the ncap command is part of the port /usr/ports/security/nmap or just pkg install nmap.

    --
    ad astra tabernamque

    Don't feed the trolls. You might catch something nasty.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Philip Paeps@21:1/5 to Louis Epstein on Thu Jan 26 12:55:49 2023
    Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
    I have gotten the subscription DVD of 12.4 and
    freebsd-update is telling me I need to upgrade 12.3.

    On the back of the DVD case it says
    * The telnetd(8) daemon has been deprecated.

    Among other out-of-style software are talkers,
    I have one I have hosted,and in years past have
    reached ones hosted elsewhere by telnet.

    Do other options (e.g. ssh) allow you to log
    in to a talker,or let others log into talkers
    you host?
    (I believe what I have runs on Amnuts,have
    not launched in some years but don't want to
    lose the capability).

    Note that only telnetd(8) is gone. The telnet(1) client is still
    included. You can continue to use telnet to connect to talkers on
    others' machines. Though it's probably wise to train your fingers to
    use nc(1) instead. (Bonus: it's a shorter command.)

    If you want to host your own talker that needs telnetd(8) to expose it
    to the internet, you'll need to install a compatible telnetd(8) from ports/packages.

    Philip

    --
    Philip Paeps
    Senior Reality Engineer
    Alternative Enterprises

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  • From Louis Epstein@21:1/5 to NoOne on Thu Jan 26 19:56:18 2023
    NoOne <noone@nowhere.net> wrote:
    On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 06:58:13 +0000, Louis Epstein wrote:

    I've been signing off messages this way since September 2001 (by
    deliberate copy-in,not a default save) and will continue to do so as long
    as what's on the 16 acres remains inadequate.

    A sig starts wit <dash><dash><space> on a line on it's own.
    After at least 20 years of using Usenet, you ought to know that by now
    Many newsreader can then either not display it at all, or at least
    auto-strip it in replies/quotes. There's a reason it's a standard.


    I've had my own hosts since 1995 and started using netnews in 1994.

    I have always been ANNOYED by wanting to quote and respond to someone's
    sig and finding that it disappeared when I tried to post a full-quoting followup of a message...and it feels unfair for me to demand quotable
    sigs of others and hide behind an unquotable sig myself.
    And since the matter of WTC rebuilding is a passion thing for me,
    I don't actually have an automatically-added sig,I type out the
    (carefully NOT dooming the prose to unavoidable deletion) -=-=-
    by hand and then paste in the 2 lines by ctrl-R every time I post
    a message or send an email.

    -=-=-
    The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
    at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Louis Epstein@21:1/5 to DaveG on Thu Jan 26 20:07:00 2023
    DaveG <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
    On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 18:55:32 +0000, NoOne wrote:

    On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 06:58:13 +0000, Louis Epstein wrote:

    I've been signing off messages this way since September 2001 (by
    deliberate copy-in,not a default save) and will continue to do so as long >>> as what's on the 16 acres remains inadequate.

    A sig starts wit <dash><dash><space> on a line on it's own.
    After at least 20 years of using Usenet, you ought to know that by now
    Many newsreader can then either not display it at all, or at least
    auto-strip it in replies/quotes. There's a reason it's a standard.

    Sorry, I forgot to add that the ncap command is part of the port /usr/ports/security/nmap or just pkg install nmap.


    Have now done that though I note nc was already active.

    -=-=-
    The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
    at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Louis Epstein@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Thu Jan 26 20:06:06 2023
    Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
    Am 25.01.2023 um 06:58:13 Uhr schrieb Louis Epstein:

    Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
    Am 23.01.2023 um 10:06:14 Uhr schrieb Louis Epstein:

    Do other options (e.g. ssh) allow you to log
    in to a talker,or let others log into talkers
    you host?

    ncat

    I'm not seeing that as a man page or a port?

    Then search for it and compile yourself.

    I've been signing off messages this way since
    September 2001 (by deliberate copy-in,not a
    default save) and will continue to do so as long
    as what's on the 16 acres remains inadequate.

    Ok, you are posting bullshit for more than 20 years.

    http://www.lekno.ws/wtc

    Doesn't work.

    http://lekno.ws/wtc
    does work,will have to check configs.


    I regret your lack of understanding of the symbolism
    of rebuilding what was destroyed undiminished.

    Wrong group.

    Asides can be made anywhere.

    -=-=-
    The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
    at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)