• New install INND problem

    From Drew Lawson@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 9 19:54:30 2021
    [Forgive the google posting, but my nntp host is dead.]

    I'm building (well, built) a new box that is a clean install of FreeBSD 12.2, with a current port of innd.

    However starting inn leads to (in a few seconds) a syslog of:

    kernel: pid 39316 (innd), jid 0, uid 8: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)

    (core dumps are nowhere to be found.)

    For comparison, I updated my (previously good innd) 11.4 box (which the new is to replace) to all currents ports, and I get the same. This even though the innd version has not changed.

    Is there a current problem that I should have heard of?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to drewlawson42@gmail.com on Mon May 10 13:09:48 2021
    In article <3a7f139e-98a7-4ac0-8668-a957dd402e9bn@googlegroups.com>,
    Drew Lawson <drewlawson42@gmail.com> wrote:
    [Forgive the google posting, but my nntp host is dead.]

    I'm building (well, built) a new box that is a clean install of FreeBSD
    12.2, with a current port of innd.

    However starting inn leads to (in a few seconds) a syslog of:

    kernel: pid 39316 (innd), jid 0, uid 8: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)

    (core dumps are nowhere to be found.)

    For comparison, I updated my (previously good innd) 11.4 box (which the
    new is to replace) to all currents ports, and I get the same. This even >though the innd version has not changed.

    Is there a current problem that I should have heard of?



    Nope. I use the daily snapshot of Inn no problem.

    Are you using clang 11 ?
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  • From Drew Lawson@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 10 06:55:34 2021
    On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 9:09:50 AM UTC-4, YouKnowWho!! wrote:
    In article <3a7f139e-98a7-4ac0...@googlegroups.com>,
    Drew Lawson <drewla...@gmail.com> wrote:
    [Forgive the google posting, but my nntp host is dead.]

    I'm building (well, built) a new box that is a clean install of FreeBSD >12.2, with a current port of innd.

    However starting inn leads to (in a few seconds) a syslog of:

    kernel: pid 39316 (innd), jid 0, uid 8: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)

    Well, a completely clean install (without my config changes and spool) is running fine.
    I'm putting my stuff in one piece at a time and hoping it goes well. 'makehistory -O' was also crashing, so I'm guessing something was wonky in my overview.

    Are you using clang 11 ?

    clang -v
    FreeBSD clang version 10.0.1 (git@github.com:llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-10.0.1-0-gef32c611aa2)
    Target: x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.2
    Thread model: posix
    InstalledDir: /usr/bin

    Just the version that installed with 12.2.
    Thanks for confirming that it *should* work.

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  • From Drew Lawson@21:1/5 to Drew Lawson on Mon May 10 15:04:18 2021
    In article <67680b5d-4578-4506-ba82-bc306630fe84n@googlegroups.com>
    Drew Lawson <drewlawson42@gmail.com> writes:
    On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 9:09:50 AM UTC-4, YouKnowWho!! wrote:
    In article <3a7f139e-98a7-4ac0...@googlegroups.com>,
    Drew Lawson <drewla...@gmail.com> wrote:
    [Forgive the google posting, but my nntp host is dead.]

    I'm building (well, built) a new box that is a clean install of FreeBSD
    12.2, with a current port of innd.

    However starting inn leads to (in a few seconds) a syslog of:

    kernel: pid 39316 (innd), jid 0, uid 8: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)

    Well, a completely clean install (without my config changes and spool) is running fine.
    I'm putting my stuff in one piece at a time and hoping it goes well. >'makehistory -O' was also crashing, so I'm guessing something was wonky in my overview.

    I put back everything in ~news/etc, ~news/db/active, and
    ~news/spool/articles. Ran 'makehistory -O' and it starts up and
    runs just fine.

    I knew the overview from a different machine/disk would be invalid,
    but I didn't expect it to break things. Something learned for the
    month.

    Another thing learned is that the core dump was in ~news/spool.


    --
    Drew Lawson

    I only came in search of answers, never planned to sell my soul
    I only came in search of something left that I could call my own

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Drew Lawson on Mon May 10 22:08:00 2021
    In article <s7bi1i$260v$1@raid2.furrfu.com>,
    Drew Lawson <drew@furrfu.invalid> wrote:
    In article <67680b5d-4578-4506-ba82-bc306630fe84n@googlegroups.com>
    Drew Lawson <drewlawson42@gmail.com> writes:
    On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 9:09:50 AM UTC-4, YouKnowWho!! wrote:
    In article <3a7f139e-98a7-4ac0...@googlegroups.com>,
    Drew Lawson <drewla...@gmail.com> wrote:
    [Forgive the google posting, but my nntp host is dead.]

    I'm building (well, built) a new box that is a clean install of FreeBSD >>> >12.2, with a current port of innd.

    However starting inn leads to (in a few seconds) a syslog of:

    kernel: pid 39316 (innd), jid 0, uid 8: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) >>
    Well, a completely clean install (without my config changes and spool)
    is running fine.
    I'm putting my stuff in one piece at a time and hoping it goes well. >>'makehistory -O' was also crashing, so I'm guessing something was wonky
    in my overview.

    I put back everything in ~news/etc, ~news/db/active, and >~news/spool/articles. Ran 'makehistory -O' and it starts up and
    runs just fine.

    I knew the overview from a different machine/disk would be invalid,
    but I didn't expect it to break things. Something learned for the
    month.

    Another thing learned is that the core dump was in ~news/spool.


    There we go.

    Mind you I tried to migrate from BSD/OS to FreeBSD 6 years
    ago.

    ever thought to type service innd start to get the process going.

    BTW if you need a peer, just e-mail me at doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca .


    --
    Drew Lawson

    I only came in search of answers, never planned to sell my soul
    I only came in search of something left that I could call my own


    --
    Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca
    Yahweh, Queen & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
    Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b Let yourself not be duped out of a fast car for a slower one. -unknown

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  • From Kevin Bowling@21:1/5 to Drew Lawson on Tue Jun 22 14:58:09 2021
    On 5/10/21 8:04 AM, Drew Lawson wrote:
    In article <67680b5d-4578-4506-ba82-bc306630fe84n@googlegroups.com>
    Drew Lawson <drewlawson42@gmail.com> writes:
    On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 9:09:50 AM UTC-4, YouKnowWho!! wrote:
    In article <3a7f139e-98a7-4ac0...@googlegroups.com>,
    Drew Lawson <drewla...@gmail.com> wrote:
    [Forgive the google posting, but my nntp host is dead.]

    I'm building (well, built) a new box that is a clean install of FreeBSD >>>> 12.2, with a current port of innd.

    However starting inn leads to (in a few seconds) a syslog of:

    kernel: pid 39316 (innd), jid 0, uid 8: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) >>
    Well, a completely clean install (without my config changes and spool) is running fine.
    I'm putting my stuff in one piece at a time and hoping it goes well.
    'makehistory -O' was also crashing, so I'm guessing something was wonky in my overview.

    I put back everything in ~news/etc, ~news/db/active, and ~news/spool/articles. Ran 'makehistory -O' and it starts up and
    runs just fine.

    I knew the overview from a different machine/disk would be invalid,
    but I didn't expect it to break things. Something learned for the
    month.

    Another thing learned is that the core dump was in ~news/spool.


    This sounds like ino64. I would maybe consider switching to ovsqlite
    with this transition, I added an inn-current port with it https://www.freshports.org/news/inn-current/.

    "
    These upgrade notes are taken from /usr/ports/UPDATING

    2018-12-11

    Affects: users of news/inn when upgrading to FreeBSD 12

    Author: naddy@FreeBSD.org

    Reason:
    When upgrading from FreeBSD 11 to 12, a change in the size of the
    ino_t type causes a binary incompatibility in the overview
    database
    if the default tradindexed format is used.

    After upgrading the inn package, remove the overview/group.index
    file and regenerate the history and overview database with
    makehistory(8) before starting innd.

    # echo '. /usr/local/news/lib/innshellvars && \
    rm -f $OVERVIEWDIR/group.index && \
    $NEWSBIN/makehistory -O -s `wc -l <$HISTORY`' | \
    su -fm news -c '/bin/sh -s'
    "

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  • From Drew Lawson@21:1/5 to Kevin Bowling on Wed Jun 23 01:46:04 2021
    In article <satmdi$11j1$1@842ffb22-07e1-11e5-a459-00266cf00584.csiph.com>
    Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> writes:
    On 5/10/21 8:04 AM, Drew Lawson wrote:
    In article <67680b5d-4578-4506-ba82-bc306630fe84n@googlegroups.com>
    Drew Lawson <drewlawson42@gmail.com> writes:

    Well, a completely clean install (without my config changes and spool) is running fine.
    I'm putting my stuff in one piece at a time and hoping it goes well.
    'makehistory -O' was also crashing, so I'm guessing something was wonky in my overview.

    I put back everything in ~news/etc, ~news/db/active, and
    ~news/spool/articles. Ran 'makehistory -O' and it starts up and
    runs just fine.

    I knew the overview from a different machine/disk would be invalid,
    but I didn't expect it to break things. Something learned for the
    month.

    Another thing learned is that the core dump was in ~news/spool.


    This sounds like ino64.

    [snip]

    When upgrading from FreeBSD 11 to 12, a change in the size of the
    ino_t type causes a binary incompatibility in the overview
    database
    if the default tradindexed format is used.

    That sounds like exactly the problem.
    And a type size change makes perfect sense.

    I normally only scane UPDATING for base system issues. It didn't
    occur to me to check for port issues. I guess I've gotten lucky
    with sloppy methods.


    --
    Drew Lawson And I know there's more to the story
    I know I need to see more
    I need to see s'more, hear s'more
    feel s'more. I gotta be s'more

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  • From Kevin Bowling@21:1/5 to Drew Lawson on Wed Jun 23 10:04:01 2021
    On 6/22/21 6:46 PM, Drew Lawson wrote:
    In article <satmdi$11j1$1@842ffb22-07e1-11e5-a459-00266cf00584.csiph.com>
    Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> writes:
    On 5/10/21 8:04 AM, Drew Lawson wrote:
    In article <67680b5d-4578-4506-ba82-bc306630fe84n@googlegroups.com>
    Drew Lawson <drewlawson42@gmail.com> writes:

    Well, a completely clean install (without my config changes and spool) is running fine.
    I'm putting my stuff in one piece at a time and hoping it goes well.
    'makehistory -O' was also crashing, so I'm guessing something was wonky in my overview.

    I put back everything in ~news/etc, ~news/db/active, and
    ~news/spool/articles. Ran 'makehistory -O' and it starts up and
    runs just fine.

    I knew the overview from a different machine/disk would be invalid,
    but I didn't expect it to break things. Something learned for the
    month.

    Another thing learned is that the core dump was in ~news/spool.


    This sounds like ino64.

    [snip]

    When upgrading from FreeBSD 11 to 12, a change in the size of the >> ino_t type causes a binary incompatibility in the overview
    database
    if the default tradindexed format is used.

    That sounds like exactly the problem.
    And a type size change makes perfect sense.

    I normally only scane UPDATING for base system issues. It didn't
    occur to me to check for port issues. I guess I've gotten lucky
    with sloppy methods.


    It's somewhat unfortunate the file format uses this kind of system info.
    This is one reason to consider switching to ovsqlite.

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