Yall still here
Yall still here
You /do/ realize that you replied to a thread last posted to over 24
years ago, right?
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> writes:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 16:29:59 -0700, Nicolas Vazquez wrote:
Yall still here
You /do/ realize that you replied to a thread last posted to over 24
years ago, right?
How did you know? Did you look the original message in the references header? How do you do that so easily? I'd love to the same. Thanks!
On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 16:29:59 -0700, Nicolas Vazquez wrote:
Yall still here
You /do/ realize that you replied to a thread last posted to over 24
years ago, right?
On Tue, 04 May 2021 17:54:46 -0300, Boris Dorestand wrote:
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> writes:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 16:29:59 -0700, Nicolas Vazquez wrote:
Yall still here
You /do/ realize that you replied to a thread last posted to over 24
years ago, right?
How did you know? Did you look the original message in the references
header? How do you do that so easily? I'd love to the same. Thanks!
I looked it up in google's C.U.P mirror
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.unix.programmer/c/xN3-YrzTeLk/m/e-wNQjBOzsEJ
On 5/4/21 5:07 PM, Lew Pitcher wrote:
On Tue, 04 May 2021 17:54:46 -0300, Boris Dorestand wrote:
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> writes:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 16:29:59 -0700, Nicolas Vazquez wrote:
Yall still here
You /do/ realize that you replied to a thread last posted to over 24
years ago, right?
How did you know? Did you look the original message in the references
header? How do you do that so easily? I'd love to the same. Thanks!
I looked it up in google's C.U.P mirror
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.unix.programmer/c/xN3-YrzTeLk/m/e-wNQjBOzsEJ
To Boris:
Enjoy this while you can. When Deja News was maintaining the archives,
they have a very powerful and reasonably fast search engine. When Google
took over the archive, virtually every change they've made has had the
effect of making the archives less useful by reason of being harder to search. I suspect the end is nigh - pretty soon Google is going to admit
that they have no interest in continuing to maintain and provide access
to those archives. I wouldn't be surprised if they simply delete them
when the time comes, rather than letting someone else take over responsibility.
On Tue, 04 May 2021 17:54:46 -0300, Boris Dorestand wrote:
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> writes:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 16:29:59 -0700, Nicolas Vazquez wrote:
Yall still here
You /do/ realize that you replied to a thread last posted to over 24
years ago, right?
How did you know? Did you look the original message in the references
header? How do you do that so easily? I'd love to the same. Thanks!
I looked it up in google's C.U.P mirror
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.unix.programmer/c/xN3-YrzTeLk/m/e-wNQjBOzsEJ
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> writes:
On Tue, 04 May 2021 17:54:46 -0300, Boris Dorestand wrote:
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> writes:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 16:29:59 -0700, Nicolas Vazquez wrote:
Yall still here
You /do/ realize that you replied to a thread last posted to over 24
years ago, right?
How did you know? Did you look the original message in the references
header? How do you do that so easily? I'd love to the same. Thanks!
I looked it up in google's C.U.P mirror
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.unix.programmer/c/xN3-YrzTeLk/m/e-wNQjBOzsEJ
But how did you know that this was the URL? Did you have to search? I
wish such mirror would index it by message-id --- or perhaps (group, message-id). It doesn't seem to be like that.
The message included
In-Reply-To: <32DA98BA.4457@softart.com>#1/1>
The references were
<5amorl$d2c@rtpnews.raleigh.ibm.com>
<32DA98BA.4457@softart.com>#1/1>
My desire is to look it up from my news reader.
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> writes:
On Tue, 04 May 2021 17:54:46 -0300, Boris Dorestand wrote:
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> writes:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 16:29:59 -0700, Nicolas Vazquez wrote:
Yall still here
You /do/ realize that you replied to a thread last posted to over 24
years ago, right?
How did you know? Did you look the original message in the references
header? How do you do that so easily? I'd love to the same. Thanks!
I looked it up in google's C.U.P mirror
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.unix.programmer/c/xN3-YrzTeLk/m/e-wNQjBOzsEJ
But how did you know that this was the URL? Did you have to search? I
On Fri, 07 May 2021 17:02:52 -0300, Boris Dorestand wrote:
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> writes:
On Tue, 04 May 2021 17:54:46 -0300, Boris Dorestand wrote:
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> writes:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 16:29:59 -0700, Nicolas Vazquez wrote:
Yall still here
You /do/ realize that you replied to a thread last posted to over 24 >>>>> years ago, right?
How did you know? Did you look the original message in the references >>>> header? How do you do that so easily? I'd love to the same. Thanks!
I looked it up in google's C.U.P mirror
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.unix.programmer/c/xN3-YrzTeLk/m/e-wNQjBOzsEJ
But how did you know that this was the URL? Did you have to search? I
wish such mirror would index it by message-id --- or perhaps (group,
message-id). It doesn't seem to be like that.
The message included
In-Reply-To: <32DA98BA.4457@softart.com>#1/1>
The references were
<5amorl$d2c@rtpnews.raleigh.ibm.com>
<32DA98BA.4457@softart.com>#1/1>
My desire is to look it up from my news reader.
Depending on your news provider, that may not be possible at all.
Best case, you can use the
Message-ID:
of the message you are looking for, or the
In-Reply-To:
or
References:
that lead to it.
If your news provider keeps an archive, then your news reader /might/
be able search that archive. But, FWIW, most news providers don't keep archives of past articles, preferring to drop articles from their store
after a reasonable (and often short) period of time.
On 5/7/21 4:02 PM, Boris Dorestand wrote:
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> writes:
On Tue, 04 May 2021 17:54:46 -0300, Boris Dorestand wrote:
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> writes:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 16:29:59 -0700, Nicolas Vazquez wrote:
Yall still here
You /do/ realize that you replied to a thread last posted to over 24 >>>>> years ago, right?
How did you know? Did you look the original message in the references
The first message I saw in my newsreader recently had a title of "Re:
How to check (in C) if a process (with". The "Re:" indicates that it was
a response to some earlier message, so I knew there should be earlier messages. I could have also figured it out by looking at the message
headers, but just noticing the "Re:" is much simpler.
header? How do you do that so easily? I'd love to the same. Thanks!
I looked it up in google's C.U.P mirror
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.unix.programmer/c/xN3-YrzTeLk/m/e-wNQjBOzsEJ
But how did you know that this was the URL? Did you have to search? I
Since I knew it was posted to comp.unix.programmer, I went to
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.unix.programmer
I then searched manually through the threads to find the title of this thread. Since the most recent message on that thread was posted quite recently, it was near the top. However, if you're interested in an older message, there's a box near the top of the screen which says "Search conversations within comp.unix.prog...". You can just type a simple
search string in that box, or you can fill out a slightly more
sophisticated search form by clicking the downward-pointing triangle on
the right hand side of that search box.
If you want to search all groups, click on the downward-pointing
triangle to the left of the search box.
They used to have an option of searching for a particular message using
its usenet message ID, but that's one of the many useful features that
they have slowly been removing over the years. Even as recently as a
year ago, Google Groups' search capabilities were significantly more sophisticated than they are today (while being positively primitive
compared to what you could do with Deja News).
I meant to look it up on an HTTP server, say, not from an NNTP server or
my NNTP server. For instance, why doesn't Google Groups lets us do that right now since it probably has it all archived and available on the
web?
On 5/8/21 8:36 AM, Boris Dorestand wrote:
...
I meant to look it up on an HTTP server, say, not from an NNTP server or
my NNTP server. For instance, why doesn't Google Groups lets us do that
right now since it probably has it all archived and available on the
web?
They used to offer such a feature, and as far as I can tell, have
dropped it. Why? I have no idea - nothing seems particularly sane about
the way Google Groups has been managed. The simplest explanation is that Google has no particular interest in providing useful access to their
usenet archives, but if that's the case, why do they bother providing
any access to them at all? Why do they regularly modify their interface
to make it less useful? Surely just maintaining their existing software
would have been easier?
James Kuyper <james...@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:...
the way Google Groups has been managed. The simplest explanation is that Google has no particular interest in providing useful access to their usenet archives, but if that's the case, why do they bother providingAll good questions. They should just provide us with a series of
any access to them at all? Why do they regularly modify their interface
to make it less useful? Surely just maintaining their existing software would have been easier?
packages of all the archive and let us handle it some other way. I
wonder what is the size it of all.
On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 2:38:13 PM UTC-4, Boris Dorestand wrote:
James Kuyper <james...@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:...
the way Google Groups has been managed. The simplest explanation is that >> > Google has no particular interest in providing useful access to theirAll good questions. They should just provide us with a series of
usenet archives, but if that's the case, why do they bother providing
any access to them at all? Why do they regularly modify their interface
to make it less useful? Surely just maintaining their existing software
would have been easier?
packages of all the archive and let us handle it some other way. I
wonder what is the size it of all.
See
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet#Usenet_traffic_changes>. Unfortunately, those numbers include the binaries newsgroups, which would require
enormously more space to archive than the purely text messages, which
is why most places don't even consider archiving the binaries. Still,
I suspect that even the text archives are too big for most users to
even consider downloading them.
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