• solaris virtual machines

    From mechanic@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 10 11:59:11 2022
    Very annoying that the Sol. 11 Express virtual machines info is
    still floating about - waste of time trying to follow those as they
    are 12 years out of date. Are there any VMs available that carry the
    current Sol 11.4 systems (for x86 machines)? Nothing on the current
    Oracle site as far as I can see.

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  • From YTC#1@21:1/5 to mechanic on Mon Oct 10 14:47:27 2022
    On 10/10/2022 11:59, mechanic wrote:
    Very annoying that the Sol. 11 Express virtual machines info is
    still floating about - waste of time trying to follow those as they
    are 12 years out of date. Are there any VMs available that carry the
    current Sol 11.4 systems (for x86 machines)? Nothing on the current
    Oracle site as far as I can see.

    What, like this?
    https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E37838_01/html/E61038/gitsf.html

    All I did was google :-
    solaris 11.4 zones

    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

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  • From mechanic@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 10 19:27:04 2022
    On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 14:47:27 +0100, YTC#1 wrote:

    On 10/10/2022 11:59, mechanic wrote:
    Very annoying that the Sol. 11 Express virtual machines info is
    still floating about - waste of time trying to follow those as they
    are 12 years out of date. Are there any VMs available that carry the
    current Sol 11.4 systems (for x86 machines)? Nothing on the current
    Oracle site as far as I can see.

    What, like this?
    https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E37838_01/html/E61038/gitsf.html

    All I did was google :-
    solaris 11.4 zones

    And you got info on Sol 11.4 zones. No iso or ova files that I can
    see. Fortunately I found a virtual machine ova file I could down
    load (3GB!) That seems to install nicely.

    https://www.oracle.com/solaris/solaris11/downloads/solaris11-vm-templates-downloads.html
    (Probable needs an Oracle login)

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  • From YTC#1@21:1/5 to mechanic on Tue Oct 11 17:00:50 2022
    On 10/10/2022 19:27, mechanic wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 14:47:27 +0100, YTC#1 wrote:

    On 10/10/2022 11:59, mechanic wrote:
    Very annoying that the Sol. 11 Express virtual machines info is
    still floating about - waste of time trying to follow those as they
    are 12 years out of date. Are there any VMs available that carry the
    current Sol 11.4 systems (for x86 machines)? Nothing on the current
    Oracle site as far as I can see.

    What, like this?
    https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E37838_01/html/E61038/gitsf.html

    All I did was google :-
    solaris 11.4 zones

    And you got info on Sol 11.4 zones. No iso or ova files that I can
    see. Fortunately I found a virtual machine ova file I could down
    load (3GB!) That seems to install nicely.

    https://www.oracle.com/solaris/solaris11/downloads/solaris11-vm-templates-downloads.html
    (Probable needs an Oracle login)

    Well, that was more info about what you were looking for.

    I would have thoiught you would just download the ISO, install Solaris
    and create a zone. Probably way easier. https://www.oracle.com/uk/solaris/solaris11/downloads/solaris-
    downloads.html

    Start VBox
    * Install OS
    * Install Zone
    ** zonecfg
    ** zoneadm

    done



    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

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  • From Cindy Swearingen@21:1/5 to John D Groenveld on Tue Oct 11 09:52:34 2022
    On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 10:37:24 AM UTC-6, John D Groenveld wrote:
    In article <ti43vi$14ofd$1...@dont-email.me>,
    YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
    I would have thoiught you would just download the ISO, install Solaris
    and create a zone. Probably way easier.
    Pre-built images are easier as they include the preferred extensions.

    Presumably this is why Larry Ellison offers them for high-volume,
    low-margin operating system deployments for Oracle Cloud.

    BTW do Oracle Cloud users still have to upload their Solaris vmdk
    or do they exist as tier 1 native options?

    John
    groe...@acm.org

    Here's a direct OCI Marketplace link:

    https://cloudmarketplace.oracle.com/marketplace/en_US/listing/61750333
    Dave Miner has some good tips too: https://blogs.oracle.com/solaris/authors/dave-miner

    (Hey All: Nice to "see" everyone!)
    Cindy

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  • From John D Groenveld@21:1/5 to bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk on Tue Oct 11 16:37:18 2022
    In article <ti43vi$14ofd$1@dont-email.me>,
    YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
    I would have thoiught you would just download the ISO, install Solaris
    and create a zone. Probably way easier.

    Pre-built images are easier as they include the preferred extensions.

    Presumably this is why Larry Ellison offers them for high-volume,
    low-margin operating system deployments for Oracle Cloud.

    BTW do Oracle Cloud users still have to upload their Solaris vmdk
    or do they exist as tier 1 native options?

    John
    groenveld@acm.org

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  • From YTC#1@21:1/5 to John D Groenveld on Thu Oct 13 13:09:37 2022
    On 11/10/2022 17:37, John D Groenveld wrote:
    In article <ti43vi$14ofd$1@dont-email.me>,
    YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
    I would have thoiught you would just download the ISO, install Solaris
    and create a zone. Probably way easier.

    Pre-built images are easier as they include the preferred extensions.

    Ok, I'm curious as to what these prefered extensions are for VBox?


    Presumably this is why Larry Ellison offers them for high-volume,
    low-margin operating system deployments for Oracle Cloud.

    BTW do Oracle Cloud users still have to upload their Solaris vmdk
    or do they exist as tier 1 native options?


    I've never used the OCI, as SPARC has never been (fully) included.
    Everytime I have had client interested and onprem solution has been offered.



    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

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  • From YTC#1@21:1/5 to Cindy Swearingen on Thu Oct 13 13:11:16 2022
    On 11/10/2022 17:52, Cindy Swearingen wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 10:37:24 AM UTC-6, John D Groenveld wrote:
    In article <ti43vi$14ofd$1...@dont-email.me>,
    YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
    I would have thoiught you would just download the ISO, install Solaris
    and create a zone. Probably way easier.
    Pre-built images are easier as they include the preferred extensions.

    Presumably this is why Larry Ellison offers them for high-volume,
    low-margin operating system deployments for Oracle Cloud.

    BTW do Oracle Cloud users still have to upload their Solaris vmdk
    or do they exist as tier 1 native options?

    John
    groe...@acm.org

    Here's a direct OCI Marketplace link:

    https://cloudmarketplace.oracle.com/marketplace/en_US/listing/61750333
    Dave Miner has some good tips too: https://blogs.oracle.com/solaris/authors/dave-miner


    Not all his links work, eg <url:https://blogs.oracle.com/dminer/getting-started-with-oracle-solaris-114-on-oracle-cloud-infrastructure-oci>
    (why do Oracle like breaking stuff?)

    (Hey All: Nice to "see" everyone!)
    Cindy

    <waves>

    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

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  • From John D Groenveld@21:1/5 to bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk on Thu Oct 13 15:35:21 2022
    In article <ti8v61$1ppd5$1@dont-email.me>,
    YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
    Ok, I'm curious as to what these prefered extensions are for VBox?

    The drivers for the VMware virtual video card from pkg.oracle.com
    along with the filesystem module for VBox shared folders from
    VirtualBox.ORG's guest additions ISO.

    John
    groenveld@acm.org

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  • From YTC#1@21:1/5 to John D Groenveld on Thu Oct 13 21:41:49 2022
    On 13/10/2022 16:35, John D Groenveld wrote:
    In article <ti8v61$1ppd5$1@dont-email.me>,
    YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
    Ok, I'm curious as to what these prefered extensions are for VBox?

    The drivers for the VMware virtual video card from pkg.oracle.com
    along with the filesystem module for VBox shared folders from VirtualBox.ORG's guest additions ISO.

    Maybe I am just getting old, but adding the VBox guest additions
    manually is a no brainer.

    Then customize and make your own local image to role out. I'm not
    convinced that a pre-created image is needed.

    (not enough experience to VMware to comment on that)


    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

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  • From YTC#1@21:1/5 to John D Groenveld on Fri Oct 14 11:52:51 2022
    On 14/10/2022 11:37, John D Groenveld wrote:
    In article <ti9t6d$1s95l$1@dont-email.me>,
    YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
    Maybe I am just getting old, but adding the VBox guest additions
    manually is a no brainer.

    Then customize and make your own local image to role out. I'm not
    convinced that a pre-created image is needed.

    Neither does Larry Ellison's Solaris marketing managers.

    (not enough experience to VMware to comment on that)

    The default configuration for Solaris VBox guest uses the VMware
    emulated video device.


    So it has extra stuff that isn't needed?


    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

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  • From John D Groenveld@21:1/5 to bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk on Fri Oct 14 10:37:43 2022
    In article <ti9t6d$1s95l$1@dont-email.me>,
    YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
    Maybe I am just getting old, but adding the VBox guest additions
    manually is a no brainer.

    Then customize and make your own local image to role out. I'm not
    convinced that a pre-created image is needed.

    Neither does Larry Ellison's Solaris marketing managers.

    (not enough experience to VMware to comment on that)

    The default configuration for Solaris VBox guest uses the VMware
    emulated video device.

    John
    groenveld@acm.org

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  • From John D Groenveld@21:1/5 to bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk on Fri Oct 14 18:19:07 2022
    In article <tibf23$22ldf$1@dont-email.me>,
    YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
    So it has extra stuff that isn't needed?

    I dusted off an old Solaris 11 VM.
    Looks like you need the vboxms kernel module from VirtualBox.ORG's SUNWvboxguest package.

    John
    groenveld@acm.org

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  • From YTC#1@21:1/5 to John D Groenveld on Sat Oct 15 10:49:24 2022
    On 14/10/2022 19:19, John D Groenveld wrote:
    In article <tibf23$22ldf$1@dont-email.me>,
    YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
    So it has extra stuff that isn't needed?

    I dusted off an old Solaris 11 VM.
    Looks like you need the vboxms kernel module from VirtualBox.ORG's SUNWvboxguest package.

    I jumpstarted (AI + JET) one, installs and does basics without.
    Package can be added to Jumpstart, I still don't see the need for an OVA.


    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

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  • From John D Groenveld@21:1/5 to bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk on Sun Oct 16 01:57:08 2022
    In article <tidvn5$2lgsq$1@dont-email.me>,
    YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
    I jumpstarted (AI + JET) one, installs and does basics without.
    Package can be added to Jumpstart, I still don't see the need for an OVA.

    Unlike Scott McNealy, Larry Ellison hires only the best product marketing managers.
    Ellison's Solaris product managers agree with you.

    Given Solaris' EOL I'm shocked by Cindy's report of Solaris VM images
    in the Oracle Cloud store. What a waste!

    John
    groenveld@acm.org

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  • From YTC#1@21:1/5 to John D Groenveld on Mon Oct 17 09:28:30 2022
    On 16/10/2022 02:57, John D Groenveld wrote:
    In article <tidvn5$2lgsq$1@dont-email.me>,
    YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
    I jumpstarted (AI + JET) one, installs and does basics without.
    Package can be added to Jumpstart, I still don't see the need for an OVA.

    Unlike Scott McNealy, Larry Ellison hires only the best product marketing managers.
    Ellison's Solaris product managers agree with you.

    Given Solaris' EOL I'm shocked by Cindy's report of Solaris VM images
    in the Oracle Cloud store. What a waste!


    EOL is still abit strong, all that we have listed is End Of Support
    (2031/2034) for S11.4. But adding a lack of roadmap for Solaris the
    industry has taken it as an EoL with no announcement needed.

    As much as will hate to see the demise of Solaris it does still
    currenlty live on via illumos etc.

    And on the bright side, my career will be over before it disappears
    completely :-)


    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

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  • From John D Groenveld@21:1/5 to bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk on Mon Oct 17 12:33:25 2022
    In article <tij3ne$3dcj9$1@dont-email.me>,
    YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
    EOL is still abit strong, all that we have listed is End Of Support >(2031/2034) for S11.4. But adding a lack of roadmap for Solaris the
    industry has taken it as an EoL with no announcement needed.

    As the late great Bob Palowoda said, for Scott McNealy "the network
    is the computer", for Larry Ellison "the database is the computer".

    Ellison has EOLd Solaris support for the database.

    Depending on your mood, you might find it funny or sad that because
    Ellsion's lawfare against HPQ went sideways, Ellsion is committed
    to supporting the database on high-margin, low-volume HP-UX beyond
    Solaris.

    John
    groenveld@acm.org

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  • From YTC#1@21:1/5 to John D Groenveld on Mon Oct 17 19:13:13 2022
    On 17/10/2022 13:33, John D Groenveld wrote:
    In article <tij3ne$3dcj9$1@dont-email.me>,
    YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
    EOL is still abit strong, all that we have listed is End Of Support
    (2031/2034) for S11.4. But adding a lack of roadmap for Solaris the
    industry has taken it as an EoL with no announcement needed.

    As the late great Bob Palowoda said, for Scott McNealy "the network
    is the computer", for Larry Ellison "the database is the computer".

    Ellison has EOLd Solaris support for the database.

    Yep, that happened a while back.
    And no MySQL for Solaris x86 either. SPARC will be next (and then then
    MySQL team)


    Depending on your mood, you might find it funny or sad that because
    Ellsion's lawfare against HPQ went sideways, Ellsion is committed
    to supporting the database on high-margin, low-volume HP-UX beyond
    Solaris.

    Just more insanity.

    But I don't let it get to me now, I can shrug it off and await my
    retirement.
    What I find hard to shrug off is Solaris being badmouthed :-)


    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

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