On Friday, 30 October 2015 06:42:46 UTC+13, Michael Crotty wrote:

Hello,
I am interested in finding a reference manager solution for use in FrameMaker. I have found CiteMaker (http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~citemaker), but it doesn't look like it has been updated since the timeframe of FM 5.5. I've found a version of it and

gotten it to sort of work with FM 12, but it's not fully functional.

Bottom line, I'd like to find a reference manager that allows me to maintain a database of references that can then be referenced with citations in the text. Ideally, the tool would then generate a reference list for the FM book (as a References

chapter).

Thanks!
Michael

Michael Crotty
Statistical Writer
SAS Institute, JMP Division

I used CiteMaker back in the day but it was never especially straight forward. So far as I am aware, there is no reference manager for FM and is part of the reason why when I have that need, I use bibtex in LaTeX.

I suppose you could export to Word and use something painful like EndNote and then bring the content back into Frame. You would need to create appropriate para and char formats, then manually format all the entries to get them looking right. Zapping the
Word formats might also present an issue so Silicon Prairie's Paragraph Tools would be helpful.

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Hello,
I am interested in finding a reference manager solution for use in FrameMaker. I have found CiteMaker (http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~citemaker), but it doesn't look like it has been updated since the timeframe of FM 5.5. I've found a version of it and
gotten it to sort of work with FM 12, but it's not fully functional.

Bottom line, I'd like to find a reference manager that allows me to maintain a database of references that can then be referenced with citations in the text. Ideally, the tool would then generate a reference list for the FM book (as a References chapter).

Thanks!
Michael


Michael Crotty
Statistical Writer
SAS Institute, JMP Division

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I've used bibtex (and JabRef) in LaTeX before, and that is exactly the type system I'm looking for, just with FrameMaker documents rather than .tex documents.

On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 2:54:21 PM UTC-4, disco2hse wrote:

On Friday, 30 October 2015 06:42:46 UTC+13, Michael Crotty wrote:

Hello,
I am interested in finding a reference manager solution for use in FrameMaker. I have found CiteMaker (http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~citemaker), but it doesn't look like it has been updated since the timeframe of FM 5.5. I've found a version of it and

gotten it to sort of work with FM 12, but it's not fully functional.

Bottom line, I'd like to find a reference manager that allows me to maintain a database of references that can then be referenced with citations in the text. Ideally, the tool would then generate a reference list for the FM book (as a References

chapter).

Thanks!
Michael

Michael Crotty
Statistical Writer
SAS Institute, JMP Division

I used CiteMaker back in the day but it was never especially straight forward. So far as I am aware, there is no reference manager for FM and is part of the reason why when I have that need, I use bibtex in LaTeX.

I suppose you could export to Word and use something painful like EndNote and then bring the content back into Frame. You would need to create appropriate para and char formats, then manually format all the entries to get them looking right. Zapping

the Word formats might also present an issue so Silicon Prairie's Paragraph Tools would be helpful.

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I'm not familiar with CiteMaker, but it sounds like you need a content management system, and perhaps a DITA workflow.

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On Thursday, 19 November 2015 07:39:26 UTC+13, Michael Crotty wrote:

I've used bibtex (and JabRef) in LaTeX before, and that is exactly the type system I'm looking for, just with FrameMaker documents rather than .tex documents.

I hear you and yes, there is nothing on the market that I am aware of that does this. As I said, the only way to achieve that is to round trip rtf/doc/docx. Or if you can consider linking anchored text.

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On 18/11/15 18:39, Michael Crotty wrote:

I've used bibtex (and JabRef) in LaTeX before, and that is exactly
the type system I'm looking for, just with FrameMaker documents
rather than .tex documents.

The LaTeX world is moving away from BiBTeX to the biblatex package,
which has much increased functionality and is written in LaTeX code,
rather than the unique — if interesting — reverse Polish notation used
for BiBTeX .bst files.

To go with this is a new program (biber) to replace the old bibtex
executable. The chief advantages are that biblatex+biber is *much* more extensible; it still uses the same .bib file format, so all existing
.bib files still work; and it offers full UTF-8 support. AFAIK all the
major formats are now available in biblatex and are under active
maintenance.

There is a biblatexml markup format available in the biber program,
although I haven't investigated this much yet; if it means it can output
the cited references in XML, then it would be possible to write a small
XSLT2 program to turn that into whatever Frame imports (DITA, DocBook,
TEI, etc).

///Peter
--
XML FAQ: http://xml.silmaril.ie/
Formatting Information: http://latex.silmaril.ie/

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On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 10:42:46 AM UTC-7, Michael Crotty wrote:

Hello,
I am interested in finding a reference manager solution for use in FrameMaker. I have found CiteMaker (http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~citemaker), but it doesn't look like it has been updated since the timeframe of FM 5.5. I've found a version of it and

gotten it to sort of work with FM 12, but it's not fully functional.

Bottom line, I'd like to find a reference manager that allows me to maintain a database of references that can then be referenced with citations in the text. Ideally, the tool would then generate a reference list for the FM book (as a References

chapter).

Thanks!
Michael

Michael Crotty
Statistical Writer
SAS Institute, JMP Division

Hi Michael,
You can try using the FM-biblio package from http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker70.html, which can work with Endnote or Citavi reference management software. I hope, with the new scripting capabilities added to Framemaker, that someone will write a script
using a modern database structure for references, like bibjson.
Regards,
Edmond

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