• HomeKit

    From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 12 13:56:55 2023
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Just ordered a couple smartplugs to handle the XMas lights. I had
    ordered one a couple years ago from the Apple Store. It did not work
    well at all. (Not the co. they sell now).

    The new ones are from TP-Link - at least a brand I know well and trust.

    Also ordered a widget to interface to my garage door opener.
    Chamberlain make this weird, alas - we'll see how it goes.

    This will find its home (hub) on the Apple TV downstairs.

    Anyone have experience to share?

    Must have widgets?

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  • From gtr@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 12 22:47:48 2023
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    On Dec 12, 2023 at 10:56:55 AM PST, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:


    Just ordered a couple smartplugs to handle the XMas lights. I had
    ordered one a couple years ago from the Apple Store. It did not work
    well at all. (Not the co. they sell now).

    The new ones are from TP-Link - at least a brand I know well and trust.

    Also ordered a widget to interface to my garage door opener.
    Chamberlain make this weird, alas - we'll see how it goes.

    This will find its home (hub) on the Apple TV downstairs.

    Anyone have experience to share?

    Must have widgets?

    I sometimes take a nap in late afternoon. It starts my audio of rain falling, turns off the nearby reading lamp, sets the phone to "do not disturb", and
    sets it to turn "do not disturb" to on a 5 pm.

    Hmm, technically that's an app, rather than a widget. It's a shortcut that appears on my phone/ipad's desktop. I sometimes poke it and sometimes summon
    it via siri.

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  • From gtr@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 12 22:44:22 2023
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    On Dec 12, 2023 at 10:56:55 AM PST, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:


    Just ordered a couple smartplugs to handle the XMas lights. I had
    ordered one a couple years ago from the Apple Store. It did not work
    well at all. (Not the co. they sell now).

    The new ones are from TP-Link - at least a brand I know well and trust.

    Also ordered a widget to interface to my garage door opener.
    Chamberlain make this weird, alas - we'll see how it goes.

    This will find its home (hub) on the Apple TV downstairs.

    Anyone have experience to share?

    Must have widgets?

    I forget the brand I sent back a few years ago. I now have a number tp-link gizmos around the house mostly connected to with halogen standing lamps or other non-stock lightbulbs.

    For those that take the regular mount I use VOCO bulbs. I really like them because I can bark out a command "Hey Siri, set the worklamp to 20%. It's particularly handy at night with the lamp in the living room with the TV. When the screen is too dark it's nice to dim the room lights.

    We set two last xmas for red and green, it was a fun novelty and we turned it off after a few mintes.

    I have another VOCO on the porch, it's set to come out X minutes after dark
    and turn on X minutes after sunrise. Around the house various lights turn on
    or off at certain times.

    And night "Hey Siri, goodnight." It turns off any home pod mini, all lights.

    At some level, I suppose it's kinda silly, but turning off everything everywhere at bedside remains a delight ever day!

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to gtr on Tue Dec 12 18:49:47 2023
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-12-12 17:44, gtr wrote:
    On Dec 12, 2023 at 10:56:55 AM PST, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:


    Just ordered a couple smartplugs to handle the XMas lights. I had
    ordered one a couple years ago from the Apple Store. It did not work
    well at all. (Not the co. they sell now).

    The new ones are from TP-Link - at least a brand I know well and trust.

    Also ordered a widget to interface to my garage door opener.
    Chamberlain make this weird, alas - we'll see how it goes.

    This will find its home (hub) on the Apple TV downstairs.

    Anyone have experience to share?

    Must have widgets?

    I forget the brand I sent back a few years ago. I now have a number tp-link gizmos around the house mostly connected to with halogen standing lamps or other non-stock lightbulbs.

    For those that take the regular mount I use VOCO bulbs. I really like them because I can bark out a command "Hey Siri, set the worklamp to 20%. It's particularly handy at night with the lamp in the living room with the TV. When
    the screen is too dark it's nice to dim the room lights.

    We set two last xmas for red and green, it was a fun novelty and we turned it off after a few mintes.

    I have another VOCO on the porch, it's set to come out X minutes after dark and turn on X minutes after sunrise. Around the house various lights turn on or off at certain times.

    And night "Hey Siri, goodnight." It turns off any home pod mini, all lights.

    At some level, I suppose it's kinda silly, but turning off everything everywhere at bedside remains a delight ever day!

    Nice summary - I doubt I'll go that far, X-mas lights is about enough
    for now. And on the non-homekit side being able to open the garage
    door from outside w/o getting into the (locked) car will be handy for us.

    Considering a new thermostat for the central furnace but somewhat
    expensive and I doubt I'll get any savings v. the ancient programmable thermostat that I have presently (20 y. old anyway).

    Turns out SO's son has an unused Blink doorbell - so I'll see if that
    can be used w/o signing onto their web oriented system. No way I'll do
    that. Installed their iOS app on my Mac ... wants to set up an account...

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  • From gtr@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 13 01:06:35 2023
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On Dec 12, 2023 at 3:49:47 PM PST, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    On 2023-12-12 17:44, gtr wrote:
    On Dec 12, 2023 at 10:56:55 AM PST, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> >> wrote:


    Just ordered a couple smartplugs to handle the XMas lights. I had
    ordered one a couple years ago from the Apple Store. It did not work
    well at all. (Not the co. they sell now).

    The new ones are from TP-Link - at least a brand I know well and trust.

    Also ordered a widget to interface to my garage door opener.
    Chamberlain make this weird, alas - we'll see how it goes.

    This will find its home (hub) on the Apple TV downstairs.

    Anyone have experience to share?

    Must have widgets?

    I forget the brand I sent back a few years ago. I now have a number tp-link >> gizmos around the house mostly connected to with halogen standing lamps or >> other non-stock lightbulbs.

    For those that take the regular mount I use VOCO bulbs. I really like them >> because I can bark out a command "Hey Siri, set the worklamp to 20%. It's
    particularly handy at night with the lamp in the living room with the TV. When
    the screen is too dark it's nice to dim the room lights.

    We set two last xmas for red and green, it was a fun novelty and we turned it
    off after a few mintes.

    I have another VOCO on the porch, it's set to come out X minutes after dark >> and turn on X minutes after sunrise. Around the house various lights turn on >> or off at certain times.

    And night "Hey Siri, goodnight." It turns off any home pod mini, all lights. >>
    At some level, I suppose it's kinda silly, but turning off everything
    everywhere at bedside remains a delight ever day!

    Nice summary - I doubt I'll go that far, X-mas lights is about enough
    for now. And on the non-homekit side being able to open the garage
    door from outside w/o getting into the (locked) car will be handy for us.

    Considering a new thermostat for the central furnace but somewhat
    expensive and I doubt I'll get any savings v. the ancient programmable thermostat that I have presently (20 y. old anyway).

    Turns out SO's son has an unused Blink doorbell - so I'll see if that
    can be used w/o signing onto their web oriented system. No way I'll do
    that. Installed their iOS app on my Mac ... wants to set up an account...

    We got a forced air system a few years back with a Honeywell thermostat. Luckily it was BT ready and there's an app for it. it would be nicer if it was homekit, but as long as I can operate it while sitting on my ass, I'm happy.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Wed Dec 13 01:26:23 2023
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-12-12, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Just ordered a couple smartplugs to handle the XMas lights. I had
    ordered one a couple years ago from the Apple Store. It did not work
    well at all. (Not the co. they sell now).

    The new ones are from TP-Link - at least a brand I know well and
    trust.

    Also ordered a widget to interface to my garage door opener.
    Chamberlain make this weird, alas - we'll see how it goes.

    This will find its home (hub) on the Apple TV downstairs.

    Anyone have experience to share?

    Must have widgets?

    We have an Eve Energy smart plug, and it's great. You can set up onboard schedules based on time of day and sunrise/sunset, read your power usage
    data from it, and it works very well with HomeKit through Siri etc. I
    bought it to reset a hard-to-reach power connection to a network camera
    that was giving me trouble.

    We have a bunch of smart bulbs around the house in various rooms - all
    from Hue. They're ok, but the occasional "xxx bulb is not responding"
    reply from Siri is irritating. I'm not sure if other brands are better,
    or even if this is an issue with the bulbs / Hue Bridge as opposed to
    some Siri / Homepod issue.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Dec 13 01:31:13 2023
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-12-13, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-12, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Just ordered a couple smartplugs to handle the XMas lights. I had
    ordered one a couple years ago from the Apple Store. It did not work
    well at all. (Not the co. they sell now).

    The new ones are from TP-Link - at least a brand I know well and
    trust.

    Also ordered a widget to interface to my garage door opener.
    Chamberlain make this weird, alas - we'll see how it goes.

    This will find its home (hub) on the Apple TV downstairs.

    Anyone have experience to share?

    Must have widgets?

    We have an Eve Energy smart plug, and it's great. You can set up onboard schedules based on time of day and sunrise/sunset, read your power usage
    data from it, and it works very well with HomeKit through Siri etc. I
    bought it to reset a hard-to-reach power connection to a network camera
    that was giving me trouble.

    We have a bunch of smart bulbs around the house in various rooms - all
    from Hue*. They're ok, but the occasional "xxx bulb is not responding"

    * Philips 🙂

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  • From Alrescha@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Dec 13 14:32:54 2023
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    We have a bunch of smart bulbs around the house in various rooms - all
    from Hue. They're ok, but the occasional "xxx bulb is not responding"
    reply from Siri is irritating. I'm not sure if other brands are better,
    or even if this is an issue with the bulbs / Hue Bridge as opposed to
    some Siri / Homepod issue.

    RF interference is common. I have a USB3 drive on my desk, and if I turn
    it on all the nearby Hue lights go “Not Responding” for the duration.

    If HomeKit doesn’t work but the Hue app does, that’s a strong hint that some network device (router, switch) isn’t properly handling mDNS traffic.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alrescha on Wed Dec 13 16:28:39 2023
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-12-13, Alrescha <news@alrescha.com> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    We have a bunch of smart bulbs around the house in various rooms - all
    from Hue. They're ok, but the occasional "xxx bulb is not responding"
    reply from Siri is irritating. I'm not sure if other brands are better,
    or even if this is an issue with the bulbs / Hue Bridge as opposed to
    some Siri / Homepod issue.

    RF interference is common. I have a USB3 drive on my desk, and if I turn
    it on all the nearby Hue lights go “Not Responding” for the duration.

    That's what I suspect is going on.

    If HomeKit doesn’t work but the Hue app does, that’s a strong hint that some network device (router, switch) isn’t properly handling mDNS traffic.

    I'll try that sometime.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Alrescha on Wed Dec 13 14:08:11 2023
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-12-13 09:32, Alrescha wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    We have a bunch of smart bulbs around the house in various rooms - all
    from Hue. They're ok, but the occasional "xxx bulb is not responding"
    reply from Siri is irritating. I'm not sure if other brands are better,
    or even if this is an issue with the bulbs / Hue Bridge as opposed to
    some Siri / Homepod issue.

    RF interference is common. I have a USB3 drive on my desk, and if I turn
    it on all the nearby Hue lights go “Not Responding” for the duration.

    Did you try a different cable?

    If the drive has its own power supply, then perhaps change the power supply.

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  • From Alrescha@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Wed Dec 13 21:05:10 2023
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-13 09:32, Alrescha wrote:

    RF interference is common. I have a USB3 drive on my desk, and if I turn
    it on all the nearby Hue lights go “Not Responding” for the duration.

    Did you try a different cable?

    It’s the only USB3 drive I own (blue connector), so no. It’s a backup drive I use once a month, I just leave it turned off.

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  • From gtr@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Dec 13 23:38:18 2023
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    On Dec 12, 2023 at 5:26:23 PM PST, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    On 2023-12-12, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Just ordered a couple smartplugs to handle the XMas lights. I had
    ordered one a couple years ago from the Apple Store. It did not work
    well at all. (Not the co. they sell now).

    The new ones are from TP-Link - at least a brand I know well and
    trust.

    Also ordered a widget to interface to my garage door opener.
    Chamberlain make this weird, alas - we'll see how it goes.

    This will find its home (hub) on the Apple TV downstairs.

    Anyone have experience to share?

    Must have widgets?

    We have an Eve Energy smart plug, and it's great. You can set up onboard schedules based on time of day and sunrise/sunset, read your power usage
    data from it, and it works very well with HomeKit through Siri etc. I
    bought it to reset a hard-to-reach power connection to a network camera
    that was giving me trouble.

    We have a bunch of smart bulbs around the house in various rooms - all
    from Hue. They're ok, but the occasional "xxx bulb is not responding"
    reply from Siri is irritating. I'm not sure if other brands are better,
    or even if this is an issue with the bulbs / Hue Bridge as opposed to
    some Siri / Homepod issue.

    FYI, I have the same "not responding" thing with both the TPLink ac adaptors and the VOCO bulbs. The TPLink adaptors can simple turned off and back on, there's a button the side. With the bulbs I turned it off/no 3 times quickly and it can usually reset.

    It is the occasional nuisance. I blame it on HomeKit. I find odd wholes and cul-de-sacs with Siri, too.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to gtr on Thu Dec 14 01:28:23 2023
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-12-13, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
    On Dec 12, 2023 at 5:26:23 PM PST, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    On 2023-12-12, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Just ordered a couple smartplugs to handle the XMas lights. I had
    ordered one a couple years ago from the Apple Store. It did not
    work well at all. (Not the co. they sell now).

    The new ones are from TP-Link - at least a brand I know well and
    trust.

    Also ordered a widget to interface to my garage door opener.
    Chamberlain make this weird, alas - we'll see how it goes.

    This will find its home (hub) on the Apple TV downstairs.

    Anyone have experience to share?

    Must have widgets?

    We have an Eve Energy smart plug, and it's great. You can set up
    onboard schedules based on time of day and sunrise/sunset, read your
    power usage data from it, and it works very well with HomeKit through
    Siri etc. I bought it to reset a hard-to-reach power connection to a
    network camera that was giving me trouble.

    We have a bunch of smart bulbs around the house in various rooms -
    all from Hue. They're ok, but the occasional "xxx bulb is not
    responding" reply from Siri is irritating. I'm not sure if other
    brands are better, or even if this is an issue with the bulbs / Hue
    Bridge as opposed to some Siri / Homepod issue.

    FYI, I have the same "not responding" thing with both the TPLink ac
    adaptors and the VOCO bulbs. The TPLink adaptors can simple turned off
    and back on, there's a button the side. With the bulbs I turned it
    off/no 3 times quickly and it can usually reset.

    I'll have to try that sometime. 🤣

    It is the occasional nuisance.

    Yes. Amusingly (and thankfully) even when it says it's not responding,
    it does actually respond.

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