• a "default writes" for filter function in Music.app?

    From Tim Lance@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 15 21:14:44 2022
    iTunes had a filter field in the upper right. In Music you can make it appear by hitting option-command-F or go to menubar>View>Show Filter Field. But once you quit Music the next time you start it you must invoke the field again.

    I am not referring to the visible “Search” on the left, at the top of the sidebar. Using this search you also search all of Apple music. I only want my own library. Even the iOS app lets you toggle with one click.

    The only thing I can think to make it permanent, since there is not a Preferences option, is a default writes command if such exists. Anyone knows
    if there is one?

    Thanks for any consideration.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Tim Lance on Fri Sep 16 04:32:05 2022
    On 2022-09-16, Tim Lance <not@here.org> wrote:

    iTunes had a filter field in the upper right. In Music you can make it
    appear by hitting option-command-F or go to menubar>View>Show Filter
    Field. But once you quit Music the next time you start it you must
    invoke the field again.

    I am not referring to the visible “Search” on the left, at the top of
    the sidebar. Using this search you also search all of Apple music. I
    only want my own library. Even the iOS app lets you toggle with one
    click.

    The only thing I can think to make it permanent, since there is not a Preferences option, is a default writes command if such exists. Anyone
    knows if there is one?

    Thanks for any consideration.

    You can do this by running an AppleScript application at login that
    waits for the Music app to launch and then clicks the "Show Filter
    Field" menu command.

    Your AppleScript app would utilize the "on idle" handler to periodically
    get a list of running apps, and then when "Music" appears in the list,
    click the menu with: tell app "System Events" to tell application
    process "Music" to click menu item "Show Filter Field" of menu "View" of
    menu bar item "View" of menu bar 1

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  • From Tim Lance@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Fri Sep 16 02:38:33 2022
    On Sep 15, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <joici5Fbqh6U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 2022-09-16, Tim Lance<not@here.org> wrote:

    iTunes had a filter field in the upper right. In Music you can make it appear by hitting option-command-F or go to menubar>View>Show Filter
    Field. But once you quit Music the next time you start it you must
    invoke the field again.

    I am not referring to the visible “Search” on the left, at the top of the sidebar. Using this search you also search all of Apple music. I
    only want my own library. Even the iOS app lets you toggle with one
    click.

    The only thing I can think to make it permanent, since there is not a Preferences option, is a default writes command if such exists. Anyone knows if there is one?

    Thanks for any consideration.

    You can do this by running an AppleScript application at login that
    waits for the Music app to launch and then clicks the "Show Filter
    Field" menu command.

    Your AppleScript app would utilize the "on idle" handler to periodically
    get a list of running apps, and then when "Music" appears in the list,
    click the menu with: tell app "System Events" to tell application
    process "Music" to click menu item "Show Filter Field" of menu "View" of
    menu bar item "View" of menu bar 1

    Aw, nuts! Thanks much, JR. But after 10 minutes of my feeble scripting skills (i.e.none) I gave up. More, it dawned on me that even though having it always be there would be optimal, and “right”, hitting a simple keystroke just isn’t so hard.

    Pisses me off at Apple and still *wish* it was like in the old days. So I’m thinking my original post was whining/venting and I appreciate your not
    giving me grief for it.



    t

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Tim Lance on Fri Sep 16 20:12:06 2022
    On 2022-09-16, Tim Lance <not@here.org> wrote:
    On Sep 15, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <joici5Fbqh6U1@mid.individual.net>):
    On 2022-09-16, Tim Lance<not@here.org> wrote:

    iTunes had a filter field in the upper right. In Music you can make
    it appear by hitting option-command-F or go to menubar>View>Show
    Filter Field. But once you quit Music the next time you start it
    you must invoke the field again.

    I am not referring to the visible “Search” on the left, at the top
    of the sidebar. Using this search you also search all of Apple
    music. I only want my own library. Even the iOS app lets you toggle
    with one click.

    The only thing I can think to make it permanent, since there is not
    a Preferences option, is a default writes command if such exists.
    Anyone knows if there is one?

    Thanks for any consideration.

    You can do this by running an AppleScript application at login that
    waits for the Music app to launch and then clicks the "Show Filter
    Field" menu command.

    Your AppleScript app would utilize the "on idle" handler to
    periodically get a list of running apps, and then when "Music"
    appears in the list, click the menu with: tell app "System Events" to
    tell application process "Music" to click menu item "Show Filter
    Field" of menu "View" of menu bar item "View" of menu bar 1

    Aw, nuts! Thanks much, JR. But after 10 minutes of my feeble scripting
    skills (i.e.none) I gave up. More, it dawned on me that even though
    having it always be there would be optimal, and “right”, hitting a
    simple keystroke just isn’t so hard.

    I could probably whip something up, but I too have to wonder if it's
    worth the time.

    For me, I typically go straight to the "Songs" view and drill down to
    the artist and album I want from there in the column browser. I wouldn't
    filter regularly enough for this to matter much to me.

    Pisses me off at Apple and still *wish* it was like in the old days.
    So I’m thinking my original post was whining/venting and I appreciate
    your not giving me grief for it.

    To be fair, there are metric tons of legitimate complaints about various features of iTunes & Music where the UI falls flat on its face and could definitely be improved. : )

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  • From Tim Lance@21:1/5 to Tim Lance on Fri Sep 16 17:55:00 2022
    On Sep 16, 2022, Tim Lance wrote
    (in article <0B6VK.432714$iiS8.71820@fx17.iad>):

    On Sep 16, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <jok3kmFkhs0U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 2022-09-16, Tim Lance<not@here.org> wrote:
    On Sep 15, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <joici5Fbqh6U1@mid.individual.net>):
    On 2022-09-16, Tim Lance<not@here.org> wrote:

    iTunes had a filter field in the upper right. In Music you can make it appear by hitting option-command-F or go to menubar>View>Show Filter Field. But once you quit Music the next time you start it
    you must invoke the field again.

    I am not referring to the visible “Search” on the left, at the top
    of the sidebar. Using this search you also search all of Apple
    music. I only want my own library. Even the iOS app lets you toggle with one click.

    The only thing I can think to make it permanent, since there is not
    a Preferences option, is a default writes command if such exists. Anyone knows if there is one?

    Thanks for any consideration.

    You can do this by running an AppleScript application at login that waits for the Music app to launch and then clicks the "Show Filter Field" menu command.

    Your AppleScript app would utilize the "on idle" handler to periodically get a list of running apps, and then when "Music"
    appears in the list, click the menu with: tell app "System Events" to tell application process "Music" to click menu item "Show Filter
    Field" of menu "View" of menu bar item "View" of menu bar 1

    Aw, nuts! Thanks much, JR. But after 10 minutes of my feeble scripting skills (i.e.none) I gave up. More, it dawned on me that even though having it always be there would be optimal, and “right”, hitting a simple keystroke just isn’t so hard.

    I could probably whip something up, but I too have to wonder if it's
    worth the time.

    Thanks, but not not worth it. It’s like when you say something out loud and at some point realize it was stupid or ill advised.

    For me, I typically go straight to the "Songs" view and drill down to
    the artist and album I want from there in the column browser. I wouldn't filter regularly enough for this to matter much to me.

    That’s often my method, too. But I have 1900+ artists so there’s quite a bit of scrolling.


    Pisses me off at Apple and still *wish* it was like in the old days.
    So I’m thinking my original post was whining/venting and I appreciate your not giving me grief for it.

    To be fair, there are metric tons of legitimate complaints about various features of iTunes & Music where the UI falls flat on its face and could definitely be improved. : )

    Absolutely. FYI the beta version of Decibel v2 is getting extremely mature.

    Again, thanks, JR.



    t
    Not that my ears are golden! (re: Decibel)



    t

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  • From Tim Lance@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Fri Sep 16 17:16:28 2022
    On Sep 16, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <jok3kmFkhs0U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 2022-09-16, Tim Lance<not@here.org> wrote:
    On Sep 15, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <joici5Fbqh6U1@mid.individual.net>):
    On 2022-09-16, Tim Lance<not@here.org> wrote:

    iTunes had a filter field in the upper right. In Music you can make
    it appear by hitting option-command-F or go to menubar>View>Show
    Filter Field. But once you quit Music the next time you start it
    you must invoke the field again.

    I am not referring to the visible “Search” on the left, at the top of the sidebar. Using this search you also search all of Apple
    music. I only want my own library. Even the iOS app lets you toggle with one click.

    The only thing I can think to make it permanent, since there is not
    a Preferences option, is a default writes command if such exists. Anyone knows if there is one?

    Thanks for any consideration.

    You can do this by running an AppleScript application at login that
    waits for the Music app to launch and then clicks the "Show Filter
    Field" menu command.

    Your AppleScript app would utilize the "on idle" handler to
    periodically get a list of running apps, and then when "Music"
    appears in the list, click the menu with: tell app "System Events" to tell application process "Music" to click menu item "Show Filter
    Field" of menu "View" of menu bar item "View" of menu bar 1

    Aw, nuts! Thanks much, JR. But after 10 minutes of my feeble scripting skills (i.e.none) I gave up. More, it dawned on me that even though
    having it always be there would be optimal, and “right”, hitting a simple keystroke just isn’t so hard.

    I could probably whip something up, but I too have to wonder if it's
    worth the time.

    Thanks, but not not worth it. It’s like when you say something out loud and at some point realize it was stupid or ill advised.

    For me, I typically go straight to the "Songs" view and drill down to
    the artist and album I want from there in the column browser. I wouldn't filter regularly enough for this to matter much to me.

    That’s often my method, too. But I have 1900+ artists so there’s quite a bit of scrolling.


    Pisses me off at Apple and still *wish* it was like in the old days.
    So I’m thinking my original post was whining/venting and I appreciate your not giving me grief for it.

    To be fair, there are metric tons of legitimate complaints about various features of iTunes & Music where the UI falls flat on its face and could definitely be improved. : )

    Absolutely. FYI the beta version of Decibel v2 is getting extremely mature.

    Again, thanks, JR.



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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Tim Lance on Sat Sep 17 14:28:48 2022
    On 2022-09-16, Tim Lance <not@here.org> wrote:
    On Sep 16, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <jok3kmFkhs0U1@mid.individual.net>):
    On 2022-09-16, Tim Lance<not@here.org> wrote:

    Aw, nuts! Thanks much, JR. But after 10 minutes of my feeble
    scripting skills (i.e.none) I gave up. More, it dawned on me that
    even though having it always be there would be optimal, and
    “right”, hitting a simple keystroke just isn’t so hard.

    I could probably whip something up, but I too have to wonder if it's
    worth the time.

    Thanks, but not not worth it. It’s like when you say something out
    loud and at some point realize it was stupid or ill advised.

    For me, I typically go straight to the "Songs" view and drill down to
    the artist and album I want from there in the column browser. I
    wouldn't filter regularly enough for this to matter much to me.

    That’s often my method, too. But I have 1900+ artists so there’s quite
    a bit of scrolling.

    Wow, that dwarfs my 247 artists. : ) One thing that helps is selecting
    the "All (247) Artists" item at the top of the artist list, then typing
    a few letters of the artist I'm looking for to select it. Have you tried
    that?

    Pisses me off at Apple and still *wish* it was like in the old
    days. So I’m thinking my original post was whining/venting and I
    appreciate your not giving me grief for it.

    To be fair, there are metric tons of legitimate complaints about
    various features of iTunes & Music where the UI falls flat on its
    face and could definitely be improved. : )

    Absolutely. FYI the beta version of Decibel v2 is getting extremely
    mature.

    This is the first I've heard of it, so I'll check it out. Thanks!

    --
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  • From Tim Lance@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Sep 17 10:17:11 2022
    On Sep 17, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <jom3t0Fu0a1U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 2022-09-16, Tim Lance<not@here.org> wrote:
    On Sep 16, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <jok3kmFkhs0U1@mid.individual.net>):
    On 2022-09-16, Tim Lance<not@here.org> wrote:

    Aw, nuts! Thanks much, JR. But after 10 minutes of my feeble
    scripting skills (i.e.none) I gave up. More, it dawned on me that
    even though having it always be there would be optimal, and “right”, hitting a simple keystroke just isn’t so hard.

    I could probably whip something up, but I too have to wonder if it's worth the time.

    Thanks, but not not worth it. It’s like when you say something out
    loud and at some point realize it was stupid or ill advised.

    For me, I typically go straight to the "Songs" view and drill down to
    the artist and album I want from there in the column browser. I
    wouldn't filter regularly enough for this to matter much to me.

    That’s often my method, too. But I have 1900+ artists so there’s quite a bit of scrolling.

    Wow, that dwarfs my 247 artists. : ) One thing that helps is selecting
    the "All (247) Artists" item at the top of the artist list, then typing
    a few letters of the artist I'm looking for to select it. Have you tried that?

    Daaammnnnn. Never thought of that and I use hitting a first letter all the
    time in Finder.
    Been using Macs since day one. ShakingMyDamnHead.


    Pisses me off at Apple and still *wish* it was like in the old
    days. So I’m thinking my original post was whining/venting and I appreciate your not giving me grief for it.

    To be fair, there are metric tons of legitimate complaints about
    various features of iTunes & Music where the UI falls flat on its
    face and could definitely be improved. : )

    Absolutely. FYI the beta version of Decibel v2 is getting extremely
    mature.

    This is the first I've heard of it, so I'll check it out. Thanks!

    Its raison d’etre is “audiophile” folks. I just like it better than
    Music and other free players. Not sure if it’s worth the $$. I seem to
    recall that beta testers get it freebie. The current v1 is $30.

    for v2 beta signup:

    https://discourse.feisty-dog.com



    t

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Tim Lance on Sat Sep 17 21:51:41 2022
    On 2022-09-17, Tim Lance <not@here.org> wrote:
    On Sep 17, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <jom3t0Fu0a1U1@mid.individual.net>):
    On 2022-09-16, Tim Lance<not@here.org> wrote:

    Wow, that dwarfs my 247 artists. : ) One thing that helps is
    selecting the "All (247) Artists" item at the top of the artist list,
    then typing a few letters of the artist I'm looking for to select it.
    Have you tried that?

    Daaammnnnn. Never thought of that and I use hitting a first letter all
    the time in Finder. Been using Macs since day one. ShakingMyDamnHead.

    I hate when that happens! : ) At least you know now. Better than
    nothing.

    Absolutely. FYI the beta version of Decibel v2 is getting extremely
    mature.

    This is the first I've heard of it, so I'll check it out. Thanks!

    Its raison d’etre is “audiophile” folks. I just like it better than Music and other free players. Not sure if it’s worth the $$. I seem to recall that beta testers get it freebie. The current v1 is $30.

    for v2 beta signup:

    https://discourse.feisty-dog.com

    I couldn't tell from a quick glance, but maybe you know: is it able to
    use your Apple library, or do you basically need to copy your music into
    its own library. In other words, if I wanted to try it out, would I
    essentially double the size of my music storage while using both Music
    and Decibel?

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  • From Tim Lance@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Sep 17 21:04:28 2022
    On Sep 17, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <jomtrdF3do5U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 2022-09-17, Tim Lance<not@here.org> wrote:
    On Sep 17, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <jom3t0Fu0a1U1@mid.individual.net>):
    On 2022-09-16, Tim Lance<not@here.org> wrote:

    Wow, that dwarfs my 247 artists. : ) One thing that helps is
    selecting the "All (247) Artists" item at the top of the artist list, then typing a few letters of the artist I'm looking for to select it. Have you tried that?

    Daaammnnnn. Never thought of that and I use hitting a first letter all
    the time in Finder. Been using Macs since day one. ShakingMyDamnHead.

    I hate when that happens! : ) At least you know now. Better than
    nothing.

    Absolutely. FYI the beta version of Decibel v2 is getting extremely mature.

    This is the first I've heard of it, so I'll check it out. Thanks!

    Its raison d’etre is “audiophile” folks. I just like it better than Music and other free players. Not sure if it’s worth the $$. I seem to recall that beta testers get it freebie. The current v1 is $30.

    for v2 beta signup:

    https://discourse.feisty-dog.com

    I couldn't tell from a quick glance, but maybe you know: is it able to
    use your Apple library, or do you basically need to copy your music into
    its own library. In other words, if I wanted to try it out, would I essentially double the size of my music storage while using both Music
    and Decibel?

    Library is a sqlite database. You add files to Decibel and their location and metadata is collected - no actual files.

    I am in the process of ripping my CD collection and some LPs. My files are on an external drive, organized how I want it, not how Music wants (Preferences>Files - nothing checked, just the location noted). When I add files to Music I eventually add to Decibel.

    Decibel has a watch (termed “sync”) folder function. I tried using it but with the size I have it was not workable. Developer is working on improving
    it. As is, when I added to my music folder, it would take hours for the
    process to register the addition. So I’ve reverted to “manually” adding to Decibel’s library. Developer said today he plans to have it improved in the next update. No ETA but he’s been very active lately.



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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Tim Lance on Sun Sep 18 15:05:35 2022
    On 2022-09-18, Tim Lance <not@here.org> wrote:
    On Sep 17, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <jomtrdF3do5U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 2022-09-17, Tim Lance<not@here.org> wrote:
    On Sep 17, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <jom3t0Fu0a1U1@mid.individual.net>):
    On 2022-09-16, Tim Lance<not@here.org> wrote:

    Wow, that dwarfs my 247 artists. : ) One thing that helps is
    selecting the "All (247) Artists" item at the top of the artist list,
    then typing a few letters of the artist I'm looking for to select it.
    Have you tried that?

    Daaammnnnn. Never thought of that and I use hitting a first letter all
    the time in Finder. Been using Macs since day one. ShakingMyDamnHead.

    I hate when that happens! : ) At least you know now. Better than
    nothing.

    Absolutely. FYI the beta version of Decibel v2 is getting extremely
    mature.

    This is the first I've heard of it, so I'll check it out. Thanks!

    Its raison d’etre is “audiophile” folks. I just like it better than >> > Music and other free players. Not sure if it’s worth the $$. I seem to >> > recall that beta testers get it freebie. The current v1 is $30.

    for v2 beta signup:

    https://discourse.feisty-dog.com

    I couldn't tell from a quick glance, but maybe you know: is it able to
    use your Apple library, or do you basically need to copy your music into
    its own library. In other words, if I wanted to try it out, would I
    essentially double the size of my music storage while using both Music
    and Decibel?

    Library is a sqlite database. You add files to Decibel and their location and metadata is collected - no actual files.

    I am in the process of ripping my CD collection and some LPs. My files are on an external drive, organized how I want it, not how Music wants (Preferences>Files - nothing checked, just the location noted). When I add files to Music I eventually add to Decibel.

    Decibel has a watch (termed “sync”) folder function. I tried using it but with the size I have it was not workable. Developer is working on improving it. As is, when I added to my music folder, it would take hours for the process to register the addition. So I’ve reverted to “manually” adding to Decibel’s library. Developer said today he plans to have it improved in the next update. No ETA but he’s been very active lately.

    Cool, that should make trying it out painless. Thanks!

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
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  • From Tim Lance@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Sep 18 10:17:24 2022
    On Sep 18, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <jooqdvFca78U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 2022-09-18, Tim Lance<not@here.org> wrote:
    On Sep 17, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <jomtrdF3do5U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 2022-09-17, Tim Lance<not@here.org> wrote:
    On Sep 17, 2022, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <jom3t0Fu0a1U1@mid.individual.net>):
    On 2022-09-16, Tim Lance<not@here.org> wrote:

    Wow, that dwarfs my 247 artists. : ) One thing that helps is selecting the "All (247) Artists" item at the top of the artist list, then typing a few letters of the artist I'm looking for to select it. Have you tried that?

    Daaammnnnn. Never thought of that and I use hitting a first letter all the time in Finder. Been using Macs since day one. ShakingMyDamnHead.

    I hate when that happens! : ) At least you know now. Better than
    nothing.

    Absolutely. FYI the beta version of Decibel v2 is getting extremely mature.

    This is the first I've heard of it, so I'll check it out. Thanks!

    Its raison d’etre is “audiophile” folks. I just like it better than
    Music and other free players. Not sure if it’s worth the $$. I seem to
    recall that beta testers get it freebie. The current v1 is $30.

    for v2 beta signup:

    https://discourse.feisty-dog.com

    I couldn't tell from a quick glance, but maybe you know: is it able to use your Apple library, or do you basically need to copy your music into its own library. In other words, if I wanted to try it out, would I essentially double the size of my music storage while using both Music and Decibel?

    Library is a sqlite database. You add files to Decibel and their location and
    metadata is collected - no actual files.

    I am in the process of ripping my CD collection and some LPs. My files are on
    an external drive, organized how I want it, not how Music wants (Preferences>Files - nothing checked, just the location noted). When I add files to Music I eventually add to Decibel.

    Decibel has a watch (termed “sync”) folder function. I tried using it but
    with the size I have it was not workable. Developer is working on improving it. As is, when I added to my music folder, it would take hours for the process to register the addition. So I’ve reverted to “manually” adding
    to Decibel’s library. Developer said today he plans to have it improved in
    the next update. No ETA but he’s been very active lately.

    Cool, that should make trying it out painless. Thanks!

    HAha. You, who have done so much (This was not the first time you’ve helped me over the years.) and have been such a voice of reason, are very welcome.



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