• Mail 11.5 (3445.9.7) Smart Mailboxes suddenly all empty

    From Dudley Brooks@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 19 12:39:30 2022
    I set up a few Smart Mailboxes just to try them out ... and was so
    pleased with their quick indexing/filtering/whatever-you-call-it that I
    set up a bunch more.

    I've been enjoying them for quite a while ... until suddenly today
    they're all empty. Not just that nothing shows -- they *say* "(0
    messages)".

    I tried
    Mailbox > Get New Mail
    Mailbox > Synchronize "Gmail" (gmail is IMAP)
    Mailbox > Rebuild

    None of them worked.

    (Actually, there are a *tiny* number of mailboxes which still have
    *some* messages. But even those don't have all the messages they used
    to have.)

    --
    Dudley Brooks, Artistic Director
    Run For Your Life! ... it's a dance company!
    San Francisco

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  • From Sn!pe@21:1/5 to Dudley Brooks on Tue Jul 19 22:16:04 2022
    Dudley Brooks <dbrooks@runforyourlife.org> wrote:

    I set up a few Smart Mailboxes just to try them out ... and was so
    pleased with their quick indexing/filtering/whatever-you-call-it that I
    set up a bunch more.

    I've been enjoying them for quite a while ... until suddenly today
    they're all empty. Not just that nothing shows -- they *say* "(0
    messages)".

    I tried
    Mailbox > Get New Mail
    Mailbox > Synchronize "Gmail" (gmail is IMAP)
    Mailbox > Rebuild

    None of them worked.

    (Actually, there are a *tiny* number of mailboxes which still have
    *some* messages. But even those don't have all the messages they used
    to have.)


    Can you see the missing messages on the Gmail web interface?
    That would prove that they haven't been deleted from the server.

    --
    ^^ My pet rock Gordon just is.

    ~ Slava Ukraini ~

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  • From Sn!pe@21:1/5 to Dudley Brooks on Wed Jul 20 00:02:14 2022
    Dudley Brooks <dbrooks@runforyourlife.org> wrote:

    On 7/19/22 2:16 PM, Sn!pe wrote:

    Dudley Brooks <dbrooks@runforyourlife.org> wrote:

    I set up a few Smart Mailboxes just to try them out ... and was so
    pleased with their quick indexing/filtering/whatever-you-call-it that I
    set up a bunch more.

    I've been enjoying them for quite a while ... until suddenly today
    they're all empty. Not just that nothing shows -- they *say* "(0
    messages)".

    I tried
    Mailbox > Get New Mail
    Mailbox > Synchronize "Gmail" (gmail is IMAP)
    Mailbox > Rebuild

    None of them worked.

    (Actually, there are a *tiny* number of mailboxes which still have
    *some* messages. But even those don't have all the messages they used
    to have.)


    Can you see the missing messages on the Gmail web interface?
    That would prove that they haven't been deleted from the server.


    Oh! I forgot to mention that I can even see them all in All Mail in
    (Mac) Mail! Just can no longer see them in the individual smart
    mailboxes I created to sort them out.

    So, yes, I can see them in the web interface. :^)


    That is a blessing.


    So ... not only are they all in gmail ... they are even all in Mac Mail.
    But the Smart Mailboxes are no longer working.

    BTW, is "All Mail" a built-in Mac Mail folder, or is it Mac Mail's
    dowloading of gmail's All Mail folder? (In Thunderbird it's the latter.
    But I don't know whether Mac Mail's relationship to gmail is the same
    as TB's relationship to gmail.)


    I'm sorry, I don't really have the expertise to advise you further;
    at this stage I'd be looking for advice myself. I might try deleting
    the mail accounts from Mail then recreating them but I'm not confident
    that it would work. I really wouldn't want you to risk losing all your
    past mail. Good luck!

    --
    ^^ My pet rock Gordon just is.

    ~ Slava Ukraini ~

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  • From Sn!pe@21:1/5 to snipeco.2@gmail.com on Wed Jul 20 00:06:32 2022
    Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:

    Dudley Brooks <dbrooks@runforyourlife.org> wrote:

    On 7/19/22 2:16 PM, Sn!pe wrote:

    Dudley Brooks <dbrooks@runforyourlife.org> wrote:

    I set up a few Smart Mailboxes just to try them out ... and was so
    pleased with their quick indexing/filtering/whatever-you-call-it that I >> set up a bunch more.

    I've been enjoying them for quite a while ... until suddenly today
    they're all empty. Not just that nothing shows -- they *say* "(0
    messages)".

    I tried
    Mailbox > Get New Mail
    Mailbox > Synchronize "Gmail" (gmail is IMAP)
    Mailbox > Rebuild

    None of them worked.

    (Actually, there are a *tiny* number of mailboxes which still have
    *some* messages. But even those don't have all the messages they used >> to have.)


    Can you see the missing messages on the Gmail web interface?
    That would prove that they haven't been deleted from the server.


    Oh! I forgot to mention that I can even see them all in All Mail in
    (Mac) Mail! Just can no longer see them in the individual smart
    mailboxes I created to sort them out.

    So, yes, I can see them in the web interface. :^)


    That is a blessing.


    So ... not only are they all in gmail ... they are even all in Mac Mail.
    But the Smart Mailboxes are no longer working.

    BTW, is "All Mail" a built-in Mac Mail folder, or is it Mac Mail's dowloading of gmail's All Mail folder? (In Thunderbird it's the latter.
    But I don't know whether Mac Mail's relationship to gmail is the same
    as TB's relationship to gmail.)


    I'm sorry, I don't really have the expertise to advise you further;
    at this stage I'd be looking for advice myself. I might try deleting
    the mail accounts from Mail then recreating them but I'm not confident
    that it would work. I really wouldn't want you to risk losing all your
    past mail. Good luck!


    Afterthought: You could try recreating a smart mailbox.
    AIUI smart mailboxes are just view filters.

    --
    ^^ My pet rock Gordon just is.

    ~ Slava Ukraini ~

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  • From Dudley Brooks@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 19 15:41:07 2022
    On 7/19/22 2:16 PM, Sn!pe wrote:

    Dudley Brooks <dbrooks@runforyourlife.org> wrote:

    I set up a few Smart Mailboxes just to try them out ... and was so
    pleased with their quick indexing/filtering/whatever-you-call-it that I
    set up a bunch more.

    I've been enjoying them for quite a while ... until suddenly today
    they're all empty. Not just that nothing shows -- they *say* "(0
    messages)".

    I tried
    Mailbox > Get New Mail
    Mailbox > Synchronize "Gmail" (gmail is IMAP)
    Mailbox > Rebuild

    None of them worked.

    (Actually, there are a *tiny* number of mailboxes which still have
    *some* messages. But even those don't have all the messages they used
    to have.)


    Can you see the missing messages on the Gmail web interface?
    That would prove that they haven't been deleted from the server.

    Oh! I forgot to mention that I can even see them all in All Mail in
    (Mac) Mail! Just can no longer see them in the individual smart
    mailboxes I created to sort them out.

    So, yes, I can see them in the web interface. :^)

    So ... not only are they all in gmail ... they are even all in Mac Mail.
    But the Smart Mailboxes are no longer working.

    BTW, is "All Mail" a built-in Mac Mail folder, or is it Mac Mail's
    dowloading of gmail's All Mail folder? (In Thunderbird it's the latter.
    But I don't know whether Mac Mail's relationship to gmail is the same
    as TB's relationship to gmail.)

    --
    Dudley Brooks, Artistic Director
    Run For Your Life! ... it's a dance company!
    San Francisco

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  • From Lewis@21:1/5 to Dudley Brooks on Wed Jul 20 11:19:40 2022
    In message <tb7bu4$179rh$1@dont-email.me> Dudley Brooks <dbrooks@runforyourlife.org> wrote:
    On 7/19/22 2:16 PM, Sn!pe wrote:

    Dudley Brooks <dbrooks@runforyourlife.org> wrote:

    I set up a few Smart Mailboxes just to try them out ... and was so
    pleased with their quick indexing/filtering/whatever-you-call-it that I
    set up a bunch more.

    I've been enjoying them for quite a while ... until suddenly today
    they're all empty. Not just that nothing shows -- they *say* "(0
    messages)".

    I tried
    Mailbox > Get New Mail
    Mailbox > Synchronize "Gmail" (gmail is IMAP)
    Mailbox > Rebuild

    None of them worked.

    (Actually, there are a *tiny* number of mailboxes which still have
    *some* messages. But even those don't have all the messages they used
    to have.)


    Can you see the missing messages on the Gmail web interface?
    That would prove that they haven't been deleted from the server.

    Oh! I forgot to mention that I can even see them all in All Mail in
    (Mac) Mail! Just can no longer see them in the individual smart
    mailboxes I created to sort them out.

    Ok, so the next step is to see what the conditions are for the Smart
    Mailboxes. You can right click one and choose "Edit Smart Mailbox..." in
    the menu.

    I sort all my mail in smart mailboxes, but I've have limited result with
    this on gmail (which I use very very little).

    --
    This is now, and now, and now. Live it, feel it, cling to it. I want to become acutely aware of all I’ve taken for granted.” ― Sylvia Plath

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