• Re: Apple says App Store developers have earned $60 billion in 2021

    From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Jan 13 04:06:16 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 12:21:09 -0500, nospam wrote:

    many ios frameworks and apis do not exist on android, or at best, there
    are very poor implementations.

    It's interesting that the apologists are always making excuses for why iOS
    is so crippled that they can't name even a _single_ functionality on iOS not _already_ (long ago) on Android (all by its itty bitty self).

    Not even one.

    Meanwhile, it's trivial to name functionality on Android that is also on all other platforms _except_ on the crippled iOS (e.g., system wide firewalls).

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Jan 13 03:59:25 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 20:53:50 -0500, nospam wrote:

    The other problem is that the two platforms do UI stuff quite differently.

    that's one of many problems.

    Unless things have changed since we last discussed developer profits in
    depth, for iOS, games make the most money (which makes sense given that iOS
    is essentially a gaming platform of sorts given it is crippled otherwise).

    For Android, games also make money but utilities also abound (where iOS
    lacks basic utilities like you can't believe).

    The reason iOS is crippled in utilities isn't due to the hardware though.
    As an iPhone is essentially similar hardware as any similar Android phone.

    The reason iOS is crippled is Apple prevents the market from supplying those functional utilities (such as graphical wifi and cellular signal debuggers).

    Google can't.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Lewis on Thu Jan 13 16:55:30 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 04:53:13 -0000 (UTC), Lewis wrote:

    The reality is that there are app development platforms that can
    generate both Android and iOS apps simultaneously so there's no real
    reason to not release an app on both platforms if possible.

    There is if the app developed for iOS is better.

    Often that is not possible.

    Such bullshit. Very few Android apps reach the level of the most average
    of iPhone apps. The development environment is much better on iOS, the frameworks are better, the "free" features from those frameworks are
    better,

    Where are those _free_ development environments Lewis (lies) about existing?

    There are limits imposed by Apple that limit the functionality of some
    apps.

    Very few limitations, and they are in things that do not matter at all to
    the vast majority of users.

    I guess privacy "does not matter at all to the vast majority of iOS users."

    Q: *Can I run Tor Browser on an iOS device?*
    A: <https://support.torproject.org/tormobile/tormobile-3/>
    "Apple requires browsers on iOS to use something called Webkit,
    which prevents [any browser] from having the same privacy protections
    as Tor Browser."

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to spam@nospam.com on Thu Jan 13 12:54:42 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    In article <srpli1$15pq$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
    <spam@nospam.com> wrote:


    Such bullshit. Very few Android apps reach the level of the most average
    of iPhone apps. The development environment is much better on iOS, the frameworks are better, the "free" features from those frameworks are better,

    Where are those _free_ development environments Lewis (lies) about existing?

    how to say 'i am stupid' without actually saying those words.

    you don't understand what 'free features from those frameworks' even
    means.

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  • From corvid@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Jan 13 10:23:58 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    On 1/13/22 09:54, nospam wrote:
    In article <srpli1$15pq$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
    <spam@nospam.com> wrote:


    Such bullshit. Very few Android apps reach the level of the most
    average of iPhone apps. The development environment is much
    better on iOS, the frameworks are better, the "free" features
    from those frameworks are better,

    Where are those _free_ development environments Lewis (lies) about
    existing?

    how to say 'i am stupid' without actually saying those words.

    you don't understand what 'free features from those frameworks' even
    means.

    Does this article tell anything significant?

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/01/after-ruining-android-messaging-google-says-imessage-is-too-powerful/

    Dunno, I don't use a smartphone.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to corvid on Thu Jan 13 13:42:31 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    In article <srpqnv$1s54$1@gioia.aioe.org>, corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:


    Such bullshit. Very few Android apps reach the level of the most
    average of iPhone apps. The development environment is much
    better on iOS, the frameworks are better, the "free" features
    from those frameworks are better,

    Where are those _free_ development environments Lewis (lies) about
    existing?

    how to say 'i am stupid' without actually saying those words.

    you don't understand what 'free features from those frameworks' even
    means.

    Does this article tell anything significant?

    yes, but it's not relevant to what's being discussed.

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/01/after-ruining-android-messaging-google-
    says-imessage-is-too-powerful/

    this is the significant part:
    As we recently detailed in a 25,000-word article, Google's
    messaging history is one of constant product startups and shutdowns.
    Thanks to a lack of product focus or any kind of top-down mandate
    from Google's CEO, no division is really "in charge" of messaging. As
    a consequence, the company has released 13 half-hearted messaging
    products since iMessage launched in 2011. If Google wants to look to
    someone to blame for iMessage's dominance, it should start with
    itself, since it has continually sabotaged and abandoned its own
    plans to make an iMessage competitor.

    google released *thirteen* messaging apps, all of which failed in the marketplace.

    not just one or two, but thirteen. that takes a special level of
    incompetence.

    the question to ask is why can't google write an imessage competitor.

    Dunno, I don't use a smartphone.

    yep, you dunno.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Jan 13 23:09:31 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 12:54:42 -0500, nospam wrote:

    you don't understand what 'free features from those frameworks' even
    means.

    What I know is that the Android development environment is free.
    And it works on Linux and Windows and even your vaunted Mac, nospam.

    The iOS development environment isn't and doesn't.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to spam@nospam.com on Thu Jan 13 18:15:39 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    In article <srqbfa$1c5f$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
    <spam@nospam.com> wrote:


    you don't understand what 'free features from those frameworks' even
    means.

    What I know is that the Android development environment is free.

    so are the apple development environments (plural).

    that also has nothing to do with 'free features from those frameworks',
    yet another concept you do not understand.

    you continue to dig yourself a deeper hole with every post.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Jan 13 23:16:16 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy

    On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 18:15:39 -0500, nospam wrote:

    that also has nothing to do with 'free features from those frameworks',
    yet another concept you do not understand.

    Name just one.

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 23 07:04:03 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy, free.spam

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    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
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    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to corvid on Thu Jun 23 06:55:12 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy, free.spam

    Doesn't use a smartphone.

    I thought everybody and their great-grandmother uses a smartphone.

    see also...
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    Banders <snap mailchute.com>
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    Jose Curvo <jcurvo mymail.com>
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    Sea <freshness coast.org>
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    triangles <build home.com>
    and others...

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    On 1/13/22 09:54, nospam wrote:
    In article <srpli1$15pq$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
    <spam@nospam.com> wrote:


    Such bullshit. Very few Android apps reach the level of the most
    average of iPhone apps. The development environment is much
    better on iOS, the frameworks are better, the "free" features
    from those frameworks are better,

    Where are those _free_ development environments Lewis (lies) about
    existing?

    how to say 'i am stupid' without actually saying those words.

    you don't understand what 'free features from those frameworks' even
    means.

    Does this article tell anything significant?

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/01/after-ruining-android-messaging-google-says-imessage-is-too-powerful/

    Dunno, I don't use a smartphone.



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