• Re: (OS X High Sierra) How to edit Saved Searches without putting them

    From Your Name@21:1/5 to Your Name on Wed Dec 22 17:54:01 2021
    On 2021-12-22 04:51:45 +0000, Your Name said:

    On 2021-12-22 01:48:58 +0000, Dudley Brooks said:

    I originally kept all my Saved Searches in the Sidebar. But since they
    are saved automatically into the Saved Searches folder anyway, I moved
    them out of the Sidebar so that the Sidebar would not be so crowded.

    But it seems I can only edit them when they're in the Sidebar. In the
    Saved Searches folder the only similar option is Get Info, which
    *shows* the search criteria, but doesn't let you edit them.

    There's also Add to Sidebar, so I can certainly put them back in the
    Sidebar and edit them there ... but then the only choices are (1) to
    leave the Sidebar crowded, which I would rather not do; or (2) to put a
    file into Sidebar, edit it, then move it back out of Sidebar ... which
    feels like a bit of a time-waster.

    Is there a way to edit Saved Searches when they are only in the Saved
    Search folder?

    Thanks.

    Once you've opend a search / smart folder, you can edit the criteria
    using the Action button (the cog icon) in the window's top toolbar -
    if it's not there you can add it using the Customise Toolbar options.

    Edit a Smart Folder
    1. Open the Search / Smart folder you want to edit

    2. Click the Action button and then choose Show Search Criteria.

    3. Change the search criteria you want to modify.

    4. Click Save, using either a new name or reusing the same name.

    5. Click the Action button and then choose Hide Search Criteria
    (if desired).

    Opps, sorry. Step 3 is a mistake. Clicking save automatically reuses
    the existing name. If you want t anew name, you'll need to duplicate
    the Search Fodler first.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Dudley Brooks on Wed Dec 22 17:51:45 2021
    On 2021-12-22 01:48:58 +0000, Dudley Brooks said:

    I originally kept all my Saved Searches in the Sidebar. But since they
    are saved automatically into the Saved Searches folder anyway, I moved
    them out of the Sidebar so that the Sidebar would not be so crowded.

    But it seems I can only edit them when they're in the Sidebar. In the
    Saved Searches folder the only similar option is Get Info, which
    *shows* the search criteria, but doesn't let you edit them.

    There's also Add to Sidebar, so I can certainly put them back in the
    Sidebar and edit them there ... but then the only choices are (1) to
    leave the Sidebar crowded, which I would rather not do; or (2) to put a
    file into Sidebar, edit it, then move it back out of Sidebar ... which
    feels like a bit of a time-waster.

    Is there a way to edit Saved Searches when they are only in the Saved
    Search folder?

    Thanks.

    Once you've opend a search / smart folder, you can edit the criteria
    using the Action button (the cog icon) in the window's top toolbar -
    if it's not there you can add it using the Customise Toolbar options.

    Edit a Smart Folder
    1. Open the Search / Smart folder you want to edit

    2. Click the Action button and then choose Show Search Criteria.

    3. Change the search criteria you want to modify.

    4. Click Save, using either a new name or reusing the same name.

    5. Click the Action button and then choose Hide Search Criteria
    (if desired).

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  • From Lewis@21:1/5 to Dudley Brooks on Wed Dec 22 06:14:36 2021
    In message <spu06c$if9$1@dont-email.me> Dudley Brooks <dbrooks@runforyourlife.org> wrote:
    Is there a way to edit Saved Searches when they are only in the Saved
    Search folder?

    % bbedit /Users/lewis/Library/Saved\ Searches/PDFs.savedSearch

    (or some other editor of your choice, the files are simply xml ASCII
    text.)

    --
    "Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
    "I think so, Brain, but three round meals a day wouldn't be as hard
    to swallow."

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Dudley Brooks on Wed Dec 22 19:13:34 2021
    On 2021-12-22 05:28:18 +0000, Dudley Brooks said:
    On 12/21/21 8:54 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-12-22 04:51:45 +0000, Your Name said:
    On 2021-12-22 01:48:58 +0000, Dudley Brooks said:

    I originally kept all my Saved Searches in the Sidebar. But since they >>>> are saved automatically into the Saved Searches folder anyway, I moved >>>> them out of the Sidebar so that the Sidebar would not be so crowded.

    But it seems I can only edit them when they're in the Sidebar. In the >>>> Saved Searches folder the only similar option is Get Info, which
    *shows* the search criteria, but doesn't let you edit them.

    There's also Add to Sidebar, so I can certainly put them back in the
    Sidebar and edit them there ... but then the only choices are (1) to
    leave the Sidebar crowded, which I would rather not do; or (2) to put a >>>> file into Sidebar, edit it, then move it back out of Sidebar ... which >>>> feels like a bit of a time-waster.

    Is there a way to edit Saved Searches when they are only in the Saved
    Search folder?

    Thanks.

    Once you've opend a search / smart folder, you can edit the criteria
    using the Action button (the cog icon) in the window's top toolbar - if
    it's not there you can add it using the Customise Toolbar options.

    Edit a Smart Folder
    1. Open the Search / Smart folder you want to edit

    2. Click the Action button and then choose Show Search Criteria.

    3. Change the search criteria you want to modify.

    4. Click Save, using either a new name or reusing the same name.

    5. Click the Action button and then choose Hide Search Criteria
    (if desired).

    Opps, sorry. Step 3 is a mistake. Clicking save automatically reuses
    the existing name. If you want t anew name, you'll need to duplicate
    the Search Fodler first.

    Ah, thanks! My problem was that the Actions cog did *not* give "Show
    Search Criteria" ... but that seems to be because I was clicking it
    while in the *surrounding* folder ("Saved Searches"), rather than in
    the particular Saved Search that I wanted to edit.

    I did a quick Googel search for some sort of "saved searches manager /
    editor" app, but there doesn't seem to be one, so you're stuck with
    using only Finder's features.



    BTW, #3 *is* correct for me -- the search criteria *are* what I want to modify. I had been doing that frequently in the sidebar, and merely
    did not know to access that capability in the Saved Searches folder.

    Oh! I guess you probably meant #4 is incorrect, right? -- i.e. with
    respect to changing the name.

    D'oh! Yep, I meant step 4. :-(
    It's been a long hot day and car repair problems ... and still quite a
    while before bedtime yet.

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  • From Dudley Brooks@21:1/5 to Your Name on Tue Dec 21 21:28:18 2021
    On 12/21/21 8:54 PM, Your Name wrote:

    On 2021-12-22 04:51:45 +0000, Your Name said:

    On 2021-12-22 01:48:58 +0000, Dudley Brooks said:

    I originally kept all my Saved Searches in the Sidebar.  But since
    they are saved automatically into the Saved Searches folder anyway, I
    moved them out of the Sidebar so that the Sidebar would not be so
    crowded.

    But it seems I can only edit them when they're in the Sidebar.  In
    the Saved Searches folder the only similar option is Get Info, which
    *shows* the search criteria, but doesn't let you edit them.

    There's also Add to Sidebar, so I can certainly put them back in the
    Sidebar and edit them there ... but then the only choices are (1) to
    leave the Sidebar crowded, which I would rather not do; or (2) to put
    a file into Sidebar, edit it, then move it back out of Sidebar ...
    which feels like a bit of a time-waster.

    Is there a way to edit Saved Searches when they are only in the Saved
    Search folder?

    Thanks.

    Once you've opend a search / smart folder, you can edit the criteria
    using the Action button (the cog icon) in the window's top toolbar -
    if it's not there you can add it using the Customise Toolbar options.

      Edit a Smart Folder
      1. Open the Search / Smart folder you want to edit

      2. Click the Action button and then choose Show Search Criteria.

      3. Change the search criteria you want to modify.

      4. Click Save, using either a new name or reusing the same name.

      5. Click the Action button and then choose Hide Search Criteria
         (if desired).

    Opps, sorry. Step 3 is a mistake. Clicking save automatically reuses the existing name. If you want t anew name, you'll need to duplicate the
    Search Fodler first.

    Ah, thanks! My problem was that the Actions cog did *not* give "Show
    Search Criteria" ... but that seems to be because I was clicking it
    while in the *surrounding* folder ("Saved Searches"), rather than in the particular Saved Search that I wanted to edit.

    BTW, #3 *is* correct for me -- the search criteria *are* what I want to
    modify. I had been doing that frequently in the sidebar, and merely did
    not know to access that capability in the Saved Searches folder.

    Oh! I guess you probably meant #4 is incorrect, right? -- i.e. with
    respect to changing the name.

    --
    Dudley Brooks, Artistic Director
    Run For Your Life! ... it's a dance company!
    San Francisco

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  • From Dudley Brooks@21:1/5 to Lewis on Wed Dec 22 10:47:13 2021
    On 12/21/21 10:14 PM, Lewis wrote:

    In message <spu06c$if9$1@dont-email.me> Dudley Brooks <dbrooks@runforyourlife.org> wrote:

    Is there a way to edit Saved Searches when they are only in the Saved
    Search folder?

    % bbedit /Users/lewis/Library/Saved\ Searches/PDFs.savedSearch

    (or some other editor of your choice, the files are simply xml ASCII
    text.)

    In another branch of this thread, "Your Name" shows how to do it simply
    using the built-in Finder tools. I simply had not previously been
    looking in the right place for those tools.

    It's great to also be able to edit with a text editor the file which you mention. Thanks. But the fact that they are XML makes it more tedious
    to do. It's easier to let Finder handle it for you.


    --
    Dudley Brooks, Artistic Director
    Run For Your Life! ... it's a dance company!
    San Francisco

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  • From Dudley Brooks@21:1/5 to Your Name on Wed Dec 22 10:39:57 2021
    On 12/21/21 10:13 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-12-22 05:28:18 +0000, Dudley Brooks said:
    On 12/21/21 8:54 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-12-22 04:51:45 +0000, Your Name said:
    On 2021-12-22 01:48:58 +0000, Dudley Brooks said:

    I originally kept all my Saved Searches in the Sidebar.  But since
    they are saved automatically into the Saved Searches folder anyway,
    I moved them out of the Sidebar so that the Sidebar would not be so
    crowded.

    But it seems I can only edit them when they're in the Sidebar.  In
    the Saved Searches folder the only similar option is Get Info,
    which *shows* the search criteria, but doesn't let you edit them.

    There's also Add to Sidebar, so I can certainly put them back in
    the Sidebar and edit them there ... but then the only choices are
    (1) to leave the Sidebar crowded, which I would rather not do; or
    (2) to put a file into Sidebar, edit it, then move it back out of
    Sidebar ... which feels like a bit of a time-waster.

    Is there a way to edit Saved Searches when they are only in the
    Saved Search folder?

    Thanks.

    Once you've opend a search / smart folder, you can edit the criteria
    using the Action button (the cog icon) in the window's top toolbar -
    if it's not there you can add it using the Customise Toolbar options.

      Edit a Smart Folder
      1. Open the Search / Smart folder you want to edit

      2. Click the Action button and then choose Show Search Criteria.

      3. Change the search criteria you want to modify.

      4. Click Save, using either a new name or reusing the same name.

      5. Click the Action button and then choose Hide Search Criteria
         (if desired).

    Opps, sorry. Step 3 is a mistake. Clicking save automatically reuses
    the existing name. If you want t anew name, you'll need to duplicate
    the Search Fodler first.

    Ah, thanks!  My problem was that the Actions cog did *not* give "Show
    Search Criteria" ... but that seems to be because I was clicking it
    while in the *surrounding* folder ("Saved Searches"), rather than in
    the particular Saved Search that I wanted to edit.

    I did a quick Googel search for some sort of "saved searches manager / editor" app, but there doesn't seem to be one, so you're stuck with
    using only Finder's features.

    The Finder method which "Your Name" gives, above, works just fine. I
    simply had not previously been able to *find* it, was all.

    BTW, #3 *is* correct for me -- the search criteria *are* what I want
    to modify.  I had been doing that frequently in the sidebar, and
    merely did not know to access that capability in the Saved Searches
    folder.

    Oh!  I guess you probably meant #4 is incorrect, right? -- i.e. with
    respect to changing the name.

    D'oh! Yep, I meant step 4.  :-(
    It's been a long hot day and car repair problems ... and still quite a
    while before bedtime yet.

    Welcome to the crowd


    --
    Dudley Brooks, Artistic Director
    Run For Your Life! ... it's a dance company!
    San Francisco

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  • From Lewis@21:1/5 to Dudley Brooks on Wed Dec 22 20:09:17 2021
    In message <spvrrj$vjr$1@dont-email.me> Dudley Brooks <dbrooks@runforyourlife.org> wrote:
    On 12/21/21 10:14 PM, Lewis wrote:

    In message <spu06c$if9$1@dont-email.me> Dudley Brooks <dbrooks@runforyourlife.org> wrote:

    Is there a way to edit Saved Searches when they are only in the Saved
    Search folder?

    % bbedit /Users/lewis/Library/Saved\ Searches/PDFs.savedSearch

    (or some other editor of your choice, the files are simply xml ASCII
    text.)

    In another branch of this thread, "Your Name" shows how to do it simply
    using the built-in Finder tools. I simply had not previously been
    looking in the right place for those tools.

    I keep my saved searches in the sidebar, so the alternate method is not
    one that I have ever needed to use.

    It's great to also be able to edit with a text editor the file which you mention. Thanks. But the fact that they are XML makes it more tedious
    to do. It's easier to let Finder handle it for you.

    The real benefit of editing the XML is to get rather complicated search
    terms one can use on the command line with mdfind.

    (_kMDItemGroupId = 7) && ((kMDItemDisplayName = "mkv*"cdw) || (kMDItemDisplayName = "avi*"cdw...


    --
    "The prize is the more I drink the blurrier you get"

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  • From Dudley Brooks@21:1/5 to Lewis on Wed Dec 22 16:53:33 2021
    On 12/22/21 12:09 PM, Lewis wrote:
    In message <spvrrj$vjr$1@dont-email.me> Dudley Brooks <dbrooks@runforyourlife.org> wrote:
    On 12/21/21 10:14 PM, Lewis wrote:

    In message <spu06c$if9$1@dont-email.me> Dudley Brooks <dbrooks@runforyourlife.org> wrote:

    Is there a way to edit Saved Searches when they are only in the Saved
    Search folder?

    % bbedit /Users/lewis/Library/Saved\ Searches/PDFs.savedSearch

    (or some other editor of your choice, the files are simply xml ASCII
    text.)

    In another branch of this thread, "Your Name" shows how to do it simply
    using the built-in Finder tools. I simply had not previously been
    looking in the right place for those tools.

    I keep my saved searches in the sidebar, so the alternate method is not
    one that I have ever needed to use.

    It's great to also be able to edit with a text editor the file which you
    mention. Thanks. But the fact that they are XML makes it more tedious
    to do. It's easier to let Finder handle it for you.

    The real benefit of editing the XML is to get rather complicated search
    terms one can use on the command line with mdfind.

    (_kMDItemGroupId = 7) && ((kMDItemDisplayName = "mkv*"cdw) || (kMDItemDisplayName = "avi*"cdw...

    Ah! Yes, always more things you can do "under the hood". At the
    moment, I don't need that. But thanks for the heads-up in case I ever do.


    --
    Dudley Brooks, Artistic Director
    Run For Your Life! ... it's a dance company!
    San Francisco

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