I just updated the trusty old MacBook Pro (13", 2019 model) from Catalina to Monterey. Smooth update and the startup/shutdown seems faster, and the laptop overall seems a bit snappier. However, the battery seems to deplete faster. Is
it just me or is their increased battery usage with Monterey? I keep all apps closed after using them so I'm not sure what else I need to check (or rememberd to check) to minimize battery use. Thanks.
Otto Pylot <otto.pylot@bogusaddress.com> wrote:
I just updated the trusty old MacBook Pro (13", 2019 model) from
Catalina to Monterey. Smooth update and the startup/shutdown seems
faster, and the laptop overall seems a bit snappier. However, the
battery seems to deplete faster. Is it just me or is their increased
battery usage with Monterey? I keep all apps closed after using them
so I'm not sure what else I need to check (or rememberd to check) to
minimize battery use. Thanks.
Maybe this is normal like in iOS devices? Wait a few days and see if
it improves?
I just updated the trusty old MacBook Pro (13", 2019 model) from Catalina to Monterey. Smooth update and the startup/shutdown seems faster, and the laptop overall seems a bit snappier. However, the battery seems to deplete faster.
In message <VYWdnarAruUkB0b8nZ2dnUU7-bfNnZ2d@supernews.com> Otto Pylot <otto.pylot@bogusaddress.com> wrote:
I just updated the trusty old MacBook Pro (13", 2019 model) from Catalina to >> Monterey. Smooth update and the startup/shutdown seems faster, and the laptop
overall seems a bit snappier. However, the battery seems to deplete faster.
After installing a new system on ANY Apple device you will see increased battery life
as it redoes indexing and caching. This settles down after a few days,
maybe a longer depending on how much time it spends awake.
What does the Battery System Preference tell you?
Can it be be that it just charges up to 80% for improved battery
"health"?
greetings, el
On 10/01/2022 09:08, Ant wrote:
Otto Pylot <otto.pylot@bogusaddress.com> wrote:
I just updated the trusty old MacBook Pro (13", 2019 model) from
Catalina to Monterey. Smooth update and the startup/shutdown seems
faster, and the laptop overall seems a bit snappier. However, the
battery seems to deplete faster. Is it just me or is their increased
battery usage with Monterey? I keep all apps closed after using them
so I'm not sure what else I need to check (or rememberd to check) to
minimize battery use. Thanks.
Maybe this is normal like in iOS devices? Wait a few days and see if
it improves?
After installing a new system on ANY Apple device you will see increased battery life as it redoes indexing and caching. This settles down after
a few days, maybe a longer depending on how much time it spends awake.
After installing a new system on ANY Apple device you will see increased battery life as it redoes indexing and caching. This settles down after
a few days, maybe a longer depending on how much time it spends awake.
I always liked that answer "takes a few days for reindexing".
Apple must really use some piss-poor cpu's and memory management.
Somewhere downstairs I have an old 386 that used to keep track of around 20 bowling teams, maybe 200 players. Once you had all the data entered, anything like sort by team averages, hi scores, most pins, games won, only took a few seconds to spit out what you needed to know.
If the battery life is cut short because it needs a few days to do
something, indexing and caching isn't it.
There is something else going on. It's just another bullshit excuse.
Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
After installing a new system on ANY Apple device you will see increased
battery life as it redoes indexing and caching. This settles down after
a few days, maybe a longer depending on how much time it spends awake.
I always liked that answer "takes a few days for reindexing".
Apple must really use some piss-poor cpu's and memory management.
Somewhere downstairs I have an old 386 that used to keep track of around 20 bowling teams, maybe 200 players. Once you had all the data entered, anything like sort by team averages, hi scores, most pins, games won, only took a few seconds to spit out what you needed to know.
If the battery life is cut short because it needs a few days to do
something, indexing and caching isn't it.
There is something else going on. It's just another bullshit excuse.
Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
After installing a new system on ANY Apple device you will see increased
battery life as it redoes indexing and caching. This settles down after
a few days, maybe a longer depending on how much time it spends awake.
I always liked that answer "takes a few days for reindexing".
Apple must really use some piss-poor cpu's and memory management.
Somewhere downstairs I have an old 386 that used to keep track of around 20 bowling teams, maybe 200 players. Once you had all the data entered, anything like sort by team averages, hi scores, most pins, games won, only took a few seconds to spit out what you needed to know.
If the battery life is cut short because it needs a few days to do
something, indexing and caching isn't it.
Ah, I didn't realize your opinion was based on your vast computer
experience. I look forward to your detailed explanations.
nope. it's intentionally a low priority background process.
Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
Ah, I didn't realize your opinion was based on your vast computer
experience. I look forward to your detailed explanations.
If I knew the answer, I wouldn't be asking the question.
To me it's just a fucking knee jerk answer to the question of reduced
battery life when a new OS is installed.
And don't lecture me on Spotlight and indexing...
https://pages.ripco.net/~blang/ScreenShot2022-01-11at5.32.52AM.png
It's a 10+ year old mini with 19 hard drives mounted on it, internal, usb, firewire (remember those?) and the rest mounted from various NAS's around
the house.
All indexed. I pretty much know how long Spotlight takes just from experience.
If newer macs than mine takes "days and days" using faster processors, solid state drives and more memory (mine is only 8GB), there has to be something else going on.
Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
Ah, I didn't realize your opinion was based on your vast computer
experience. I look forward to your detailed explanations.
If I knew the answer, I wouldn't be asking the question.
To me it's just a fucking knee jerk answer to the question of reduced
battery life when a new OS is installed.
And don't lecture me on Spotlight and indexing...
https://pages.ripco.net/~blang/ScreenShot2022-01-11at5.32.52AM.png
It's a 10+ year old mini with 19 hard drives mounted on it, internal, usb, firewire (remember those?) and the rest mounted from various NAS's around
the house.
All indexed. I pretty much know how long Spotlight takes just from experience.
If newer macs than mine takes "days and days" using faster processors, solid state drives and more memory (mine is only 8GB), there has to be something else going on.
-bruce
bje@ripco.com
Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
Ah, I didn't realize your opinion was based on your vast computer
experience. I look forward to your detailed explanations.
If I knew the answer, I wouldn't be asking the question.
To me it's just a fucking knee jerk answer to the question of reduced
battery life when a new OS is installed.
And don't lecture me on Spotlight and indexing...
https://pages.ripco.net/~blang/ScreenShot2022-01-11at5.32.52AM.png
It's a 10+ year old mini with 19 hard drives mounted on it, internal, usb, firewire (remember those?) and the rest mounted from various NAS's around
the house.
All indexed. I pretty much know how long Spotlight takes just from experience.
If newer macs than mine takes "days and days" using faster processors, solid state drives and more memory (mine is only 8GB), there has to be something else going on.
-bruce
bje@ripco.com
battery usage still goes from about 100% to 16% in about 4 hours with just Mail running in the background and Safari use.
Apple has made an appointment
for me on Thursday under AppleCare to have them take a look at it. Battery Condition is Normal so somehting is going on. Either the update screwed something up or it's just a conincidence that somethat has happend to the battery processes after the update. Catalina was rock solid.
nope. it's intentionally a low priority background process.
A low priority background process that eats up battery life enough for the owner to notice?
Gotcha.
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
nope. it's intentionally a low priority background process.
A low priority background process that eats up battery life enough for the owner to notice?
Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
Ah, I didn't realize your opinion was based on your vast computer
experience. I look forward to your detailed explanations.
If I knew the answer, I wouldn't be asking the question.
To me it's just a fucking knee jerk answer to the question of reduced
battery life when a new OS is installed.
And don't lecture me on Spotlight and indexing...
https://pages.ripco.net/~blang/ScreenShot2022-01-11at5.32.52AM.png
It's a 10+ year old mini with 19 hard drives mounted on it, internal, usb, firewire (remember those?) and the rest mounted from various NAS's around
the house.
All indexed. I pretty much know how long Spotlight takes just from experience.
If newer macs than mine takes "days and days" using faster processors, solid state drives and more memory (mine is only 8GB), there has to be something else going on.
In article <KKmdnVEKCIbgfkD8nZ2dnUU7-KvNnZ2d@supernews.com>, Otto Pylot <otto.pylot@bogusaddress.com> wrote:
battery usage still goes from about 100% to 16% in about 4 hours with just >> Mail running in the background and Safari use.
that is a clear sign of a failing battery.
Apple has made an appointment
for me on Thursday under AppleCare to have them take a look at it. Battery >> Condition is Normal so somehting is going on. Either the update screwed
something up or it's just a conincidence that somethat has happend to the
battery processes after the update. Catalina was rock solid.
coincidence.
Spotlight keeps popping up under Battery - Using Significant Energy
when it is disabled and Activity Monitor indicates nothing is going
on,
On Jan 11, 2022 at 12:10:11 PM PST, "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <KKmdnVEKCIbgfkD8nZ2dnUU7-KvNnZ2d@supernews.com>, Otto Pylot
<otto.pylot@bogusaddress.com> wrote:
battery usage still goes from about 100% to 16% in about 4 hours with just >>> Mail running in the background and Safari use.
that is a clear sign of a failing battery.
Apple has made an appointment
for me on Thursday under AppleCare to have them take a look at it. Battery >>> Condition is Normal so somehting is going on. Either the update screwed
something up or it's just a conincidence that somethat has happend to the >>> battery processes after the update. Catalina was rock solid.
coincidence.
Agreed. It appears to be better now after doing some "rebuilding" with Apple but Spotlight keeps popping up under Battery - Using Significant Energy when it is disabled and Activity Monitor indicates nothing is going on,
For anyone that cares, it appears that Spotlight is enabled
automatically, and even if you don't set it up it will continue to
"look" for something to index unless you add your entire volume to
Privacy. Once done, battery performance returns to normal and
Spotlight is "disabled". Never used Spotlight before so wasn't aware
of how it operates.
You need to keep Applications clicked, if you want the
AppStore to work (wrt updating). The rest can be turned off.
el
On 2022-01-15 08:27 , Otto Pylot wrote:
[...]
For anyone that cares, it appears that Spotlight is enabled
automatically, and even if you don't set it up it will continue to
"look" for something to index unless you add your entire volume to
Privacy. Once done, battery performance returns to normal and
Spotlight is "disabled". Never used Spotlight before so wasn't aware
of how it operates.
On Jan 15, 2022 at 2:17:29 AM PST, "Dr Eberhard W Lisse" <nospam@lisse.NA> wrote:
You need to keep Applications clicked, if you want the AppStore to
work (wrt updating). The rest can be turned off.
el
On 2022-01-15 08:27 , Otto Pylot wrote:
[...]
For anyone that cares, it appears that Spotlight is enabled
automatically, and even if you don't set it up it will continue to
"look" for something to index unless you add your entire volume to
Privacy. Once done, battery performance returns to normal and
Spotlight is "disabled". Never used Spotlight before so wasn't
aware of how it operates.
Interesting. Apple didn't mention that specifically. AppStore
updates have always worked for me before with Spotlight disabled.
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