• Permissions repair trick

    From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 15 13:53:33 2021
    Stumbled on this as I was looking up migration assistant issues.

    https://osxdaily.com/2011/11/15/repair-user-permissions-in-mac-os-x-lion/

    Footnote claims this works through Yosemite and later.

    Short version (copied from site).

    Restart OS X and hold down the Command and R keys.

    You will boot into the Repair Utilities screen. On top, in the Menu Bar
    click the Utilities item then select Terminal.

    In the Terminal window, type “resetpassword” (without the quotes) and
    hit Return.

    The Password reset utility launches, but you’re not going to reset the password. Instead, click on the icon for your Mac’s hard drive at the
    top. From the drop-down below it, select the user account where you are
    having issues.

    At the bottom of the window, you’ll see an area labeled ‘Reset Home Directory Permissions and ACLs’. Click the Reset button there.

    <churns>

    Quit and restart the Mac...

    --
    Beginning in the 1970's, all birds in North America were replaced by
    drones made to look and act like birds. By 2004, no real birds are to
    be found. They are all drones. They all belong to the government.
    They spy on everyone. All of the time. Birds are not real.

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  • From Lewis@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Wed Dec 15 20:44:35 2021
    In message <OQquJ.125405$np6.9406@fx46.iad> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Stumbled on this as I was looking up migration assistant issues.

    https://osxdaily.com/2011/11/15/repair-user-permissions-in-mac-os-x-lion/

    From a decade ago?

    [ Snip ]

    At the bottom of the window, you’ll see an area labeled ‘Reset Home Directory Permissions and ACLs’. Click the Reset button there.

    This hasn't been necessary on a very long time.

    It is also trivial to do without booting into recovery.

    chown -R <shortusername> ~

    done.

    --
    "Why, you stuck-up, half-witted, scruffy-looking... NERFHERDER!"
    "Who's Scruffy looking?"

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Lewis on Wed Dec 15 15:54:16 2021
    On 2021-12-15 15:44, Lewis wrote:
    In message <OQquJ.125405$np6.9406@fx46.iad> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Stumbled on this as I was looking up migration assistant issues.

    https://osxdaily.com/2011/11/15/repair-user-permissions-in-mac-os-x-lion/

    From a decade ago?

    [ Snip ]

    Speaking of snipping you snipped out where it is still valid until at
    least Yosemite (and "later" per the article writer).



    At the bottom of the window, you’ll see an area labeled ‘Reset Home
    Directory Permissions and ACLs’. Click the Reset button there.

    This hasn't been necessary on a very long time.

    It is also trivial to do without booting into recovery.

    chown -R <shortusername> ~

    The good ones are hard to find.


    --
    Beginning in the 1970's, all birds in North America were replaced by
    drones made to look and act like birds. By 2004, no real birds are to
    be found. They are all drones. They all belong to the government.
    They spy on everyone. All of the time. Birds are not real.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lewis@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Thu Dec 16 03:52:56 2021
    In message <YBsuJ.122614$aF1.59898@fx98.iad> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-15 15:44, Lewis wrote:
    In message <OQquJ.125405$np6.9406@fx46.iad> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Stumbled on this as I was looking up migration assistant issues.

    https://osxdaily.com/2011/11/15/repair-user-permissions-in-mac-os-x-lion/ >>
    From a decade ago?

    [ Snip ]

    Speaking of snipping you snipped out where it is still valid until at
    least Yosemite (and "later" per the article writer).

    That was the opinion of whoever wrote that. Fixing permissions on your
    home folder does not require recovery mode and hasn't for a very long
    time, if it ever did.

    --
    'Good and bad is tricky, she [Esme] said. 'I ain't too certain about
    where people stand. P'raps what matters is which way you face.'

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Lewis on Thu Dec 16 11:13:17 2021
    On 2021-12-15 22:52, Lewis wrote:
    In message <YBsuJ.122614$aF1.59898@fx98.iad> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2021-12-15 15:44, Lewis wrote:
    In message <OQquJ.125405$np6.9406@fx46.iad> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Stumbled on this as I was looking up migration assistant issues.

    https://osxdaily.com/2011/11/15/repair-user-permissions-in-mac-os-x-lion/ >>>
    From a decade ago?

    [ Snip ]

    Speaking of snipping you snipped out where it is still valid until at
    least Yosemite (and "later" per the article writer).

    That was the opinion of whoever wrote that. Fixing permissions on your
    home folder does not require recovery mode and hasn't for a very long
    time, if it ever did.

    Glad to know it in case I need it.


    --
    Beginning in the 1970's, all birds in North America were replaced by
    drones made to look and act like birds. By 2004, no real birds are to
    be found. They are all drones. They all belong to the government.
    They spy on everyone. All of the time. Birds are not real.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From nospam@21:1/5 to bitbucket@blackhole.com on Thu Dec 16 12:00:09 2021
    In article <xAJuJ.155128$831.6344@fx40.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:


    https://osxdaily.com/2011/11/15/repair-user-permissions-in-mac-os-x-lion/

    From a decade ago?

    [ Snip ]

    Speaking of snipping you snipped out where it is still valid until at
    least Yosemite (and "later" per the article writer).

    That was the opinion of whoever wrote that. Fixing permissions on your
    home folder does not require recovery mode and hasn't for a very long
    time, if it ever did.

    Glad to know it in case I need it.

    you won't. nobody does. permissions repair is a waste of time.

    the term itself is misleading, since there is nothing to 'repair'. all
    it did was reset permissions to what apple thinks it should be, which
    is not the only valid choice. those who watched its progress could see permissions on some files change, only to change back moments later
    because the list of 'correct' permissions contradicted itself.

    permissions 'repair' came to be because there were some *potential*
    issues caused by dual-booting into mac os 9, which knew nothing of mac
    os x permissions. this was usually from installers that did dumb
    things, not everyday use.

    booting into mac os 9 hasn't been possible for roughly 20 years, thus
    need to 'repair' permissions no longer exists, and even back then, it
    was very rare that it helped.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Dec 16 12:32:31 2021
    On 2021-12-16 12:00, nospam wrote:
    In article <xAJuJ.155128$831.6344@fx40.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:


    https://osxdaily.com/2011/11/15/repair-user-permissions-in-mac-os-x-lion/

    From a decade ago?

    [ Snip ]

    Speaking of snipping you snipped out where it is still valid until at
    least Yosemite (and "later" per the article writer).

    That was the opinion of whoever wrote that. Fixing permissions on your
    home folder does not require recovery mode and hasn't for a very long
    time, if it ever did.

    Glad to know it in case I need it.

    you won't. nobody does. permissions repair is a waste of time.

    the term itself is...
    Even better to know. Every time I initialize a new Mac and move files
    to it, I'm worried this issue may crop up. I did have such issues back
    in the early days (2007 ish) for reasons I no longer recall. I may have
    had such issues in 2013 when I moved from the Core Duo Mac to the i7.
    (There were various issues - but I don't recall if permissions was in
    there).

    IAC, new M1 MBA move went flawlessly. I didn't use MA, just copied the
    files over and pruned more crud along the way (a lot of dupes,
    questionably useful files, old downloads, etc. I backed that stuff up
    on an external drive for my SO to filter over the holidays...

    I picked iCloud (her account) for the recovery key, but I don't recall
    seeing the key at all. Pretty sure I didn't miss it - was going slowly
    enough.

    --
    Beginning in the 1970's, all birds in North America were replaced by
    drones made to look and act like birds. By 2004, no real birds are to
    be found. They are all drones. They all belong to the government.
    They spy on everyone. All of the time. Birds are not real.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From nospam@21:1/5 to bitbucket@blackhole.com on Thu Dec 16 12:50:11 2021
    In article <PKKuJ.222906$I%1.134364@fx36.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Every time I initialize a new Mac and move files
    to it, I'm worried this issue may crop up. I did have such issues back
    in the early days (2007 ish) for reasons I no longer recall. I may have
    had such issues in 2013 when I moved from the Core Duo Mac to the i7.
    (There were various issues - but I don't recall if permissions was in
    there).

    it's extremely unlikely that any issues were related to permissions
    unless you migrated *after* initial setup, which creates a second
    account whose user id doesn't match the one on the original mac.

    the mismatch can cause problems, which is why migration should always
    be done during initial setup. it's also something that is unaffected by permissions repair.

    IAC, new M1 MBA move went flawlessly. I didn't use MA, just copied the
    files over and pruned more crud along the way (a lot of dupes,
    questionably useful files, old downloads, etc. I backed that stuff up
    on an external drive for my SO to filter over the holidays...

    migration assistant would have made that significantly easier.

    computers are there to do work *for* you.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Dec 16 13:32:31 2021
    On 2021-12-16 12:50, nospam wrote:
    In article <PKKuJ.222906$I%1.134364@fx36.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Every time I initialize a new Mac and move files
    to it, I'm worried this issue may crop up. I did have such issues back
    in the early days (2007 ish) for reasons I no longer recall. I may have
    had such issues in 2013 when I moved from the Core Duo Mac to the i7.
    (There were various issues - but I don't recall if permissions was in
    there).

    it's extremely unlikely that any issues were related to permissions
    unless you migrated *after* initial setup, which creates a second
    account whose user id doesn't match the one on the original mac.

    the mismatch can cause problems, which is why migration should always
    be done during initial setup. it's also something that is unaffected by permissions repair.

    IAC, new M1 MBA move went flawlessly. I didn't use MA, just copied the
    files over and pruned more crud along the way (a lot of dupes,
    questionably useful files, old downloads, etc. I backed that stuff up
    on an external drive for my SO to filter over the holidays...

    migration assistant would have made that significantly easier.

    Not really. Connected over WiFi, selected the folders I had already
    pruned, dropped them on the new MBA in the correct or new folders.

    While they transferred played with the settings for various things
    (trackpad is quite different for example). Checked a myriad of things
    out, etc.

    computers are there to do work *for* you.

    MA doesn't leave behind what I don't want to transfer from user files.
    The whole thing (valid user files) was about 30 GB and change over a
    half dozen folders.

    Haven't figured out what to do with the 2015, i5, 4 GB/128GB MBA yet.
    Though I may need it temporarily for work. I'll probably update it to
    Monterey over the holidays too.

    Local market prices (ask) are surprisingly high for MBA's - despite the
    M1 MBA. Not sure what actual sales prices are happening though.

    --
    Beginning in the 1970's, all birds in North America were replaced by
    drones made to look and act like birds. By 2004, no real birds are to
    be found. They are all drones. They all belong to the government.
    They spy on everyone. All of the time. Birds are not real.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)