• Crazy cursor after 14.3 update

    From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 6 10:30:58 2024
    Updated to 14.3 this am. (iMac M3).

    When the computer re-started, the trackpad controlled cursor would jump
    all over the place after moving it. I expected this to settle out ... nope.

    With some effort, re-started the computer ... nope - same issue.

    Solution was to hardwire connect the trackpad to the iMac. This
    immediately restored order. Disconnected the wire and all is fine.

    Never seen anything like this.

    I suspect this may be (bizarrely) related to the side monitor which used
    to be TB-3/HDMI and maybe that config was saved, even though about a
    week ago I received a TB-3/Display-Port cable (better connection
    behaviour). The cursor jumping around behaviour was similar to when the
    HDMI was having fits connecting. I know this sounds disparate - but the observed behaviour matches it.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Tue Feb 6 16:30:55 2024
    On 2024-02-06, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Updated to 14.3 this am. (iMac M3).

    When the computer re-started, the trackpad controlled cursor would jump
    all over the place after moving it. I expected this to settle out ... nope.

    With some effort, re-started the computer ... nope - same issue.

    Solution was to hardwire connect the trackpad to the iMac. This
    immediately restored order. Disconnected the wire and all is fine.

    Never seen anything like this.

    I have. It's very likely radio interference interacting with the
    Bluetooth signal. It took me a while to figure out whats going on, but I
    have a Ubiquiti access point near my office computers and the signal
    strength coming from it is enough to cause this issue. So I have to keep
    the trackpad on the nearest computer physically connected pretty much
    full time to avoid this issue with it. I can deal with an occasional
    missed key press on the keyboard, but I need my cursor to be reliable
    and responsive.

    I suspect this may be (bizarrely) related to the side monitor which used
    to be TB-3/HDMI and maybe that config was saved, even though about a
    week ago I received a TB-3/Display-Port cable (better connection
    behaviour). The cursor jumping around behaviour was similar to when the
    HDMI was having fits connecting. I know this sounds disparate - but the observed behaviour matches it.

    I know that leaky USB-C ports / cables can cause interference with WiFi
    and Bluetooth signal nearby. I wonder if this is what's happening with
    your monitor.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Tue Feb 6 16:36:30 2024
    On 2024-02-06 11:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-02-06, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Updated to 14.3 this am. (iMac M3).

    When the computer re-started, the trackpad controlled cursor would jump
    all over the place after moving it. I expected this to settle out ... nope. >>
    With some effort, re-started the computer ... nope - same issue.

    Solution was to hardwire connect the trackpad to the iMac. This
    immediately restored order. Disconnected the wire and all is fine.

    Never seen anything like this.

    I have. It's very likely radio interference interacting with the
    Bluetooth signal. It took me a while to figure out whats going on, but I
    have a Ubiquiti access point near my office computers and the signal
    strength coming from it is enough to cause this issue. So I have to keep
    the trackpad on the nearest computer physically connected pretty much
    full time to avoid this issue with it. I can deal with an occasional
    missed key press on the keyboard, but I need my cursor to be reliable
    and responsive.

    You've written of this before. My setup didn't change during the s/w
    update, so I doubt it's that. Also after getting it sorted, immediately disconnected the trackpad cable ... all good.

    Also, while the trackpad was nutso, the keyboard was fine (to be sure I
    didn't use it much during this episode...)



    I suspect this may be (bizarrely) related to the side monitor which used
    to be TB-3/HDMI and maybe that config was saved, even though about a
    week ago I received a TB-3/Display-Port cable (better connection
    behaviour). The cursor jumping around behaviour was similar to when the
    HDMI was having fits connecting. I know this sounds disparate - but the
    observed behaviour matches it.

    I know that leaky USB-C ports / cables can cause interference with WiFi
    and Bluetooth signal nearby. I wonder if this is what's happening with
    your monitor.

    Anything's possible... OTOH at work I have a 2nd monitor that is HDMI
    only and with two monitors (Mac Mini) the "2nd" monitor (TB->HDMI) is
    often a pain to get it to display. On my home 27" "side" display I was
    having the same issue - then I noticed it had a Display Port input -
    ordered the cable and that one is solved. I believe this goes down to
    how Samsung do their sync connect v. how Apple does theirs (for HDMI)
    and they're not happy with each other. Display Port is no issue.

    (Mouse and keyboard are wired at work too).

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Wed Feb 7 00:40:18 2024
    On 2024-02-06, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-06 11:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-02-06, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Updated to 14.3 this am. (iMac M3).

    When the computer re-started, the trackpad controlled cursor would
    jump all over the place after moving it. I expected this to settle
    out ... nope.

    With some effort, re-started the computer ... nope - same issue.

    Solution was to hardwire connect the trackpad to the iMac. This
    immediately restored order. Disconnected the wire and all is fine.

    Never seen anything like this.

    I have. It's very likely radio interference interacting with the
    Bluetooth signal. It took me a while to figure out whats going on,
    but I have a Ubiquiti access point near my office computers and the
    signal strength coming from it is enough to cause this issue. So I
    have to keep the trackpad on the nearest computer physically
    connected pretty much full time to avoid this issue with it. I can
    deal with an occasional missed key press on the keyboard, but I need
    my cursor to be reliable and responsive.

    You've written of this before. My setup didn't change during the s/w
    update, so I doubt it's that. Also after getting it sorted,
    immediately disconnected the trackpad cable ... all good.

    That's what I observed as well when this was happening. After plugging
    it in and unplugging it, the connection was stable ...until the next
    time it happened *usually anywhere from hours to days later).

    Also, while the trackpad was nutso, the keyboard was fine (to be sure
    I didn't use it much during this episode...)

    It rarely affected both at the same time for me.

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