I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any use with moder versions of the mac OS?
In article <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps >> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any >> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
which model ricoh, what error did it give and did you use the correct
driver, which should install automatically?
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any use with moder versions of the mac OS?
On Oct 5, 2021 at 5:49:28 PM PDT, "gtr" <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps >> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any >> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
I managed to figure it out to my satisfaction. Ricoh's driver for networked use is limited to the printer, and I figure their hurry-up programmers didn't do the scanner communications right. I've hooked up the USB line to the printer and that works fine for for scanning and printing; so I'll go with that.
Still curious to know if CUPS is of any value. I noted an error in the console
from a few months back.
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any use with moder versions of the mac OS?
On 2021-10-06 3:42 p.m., Gerry wrote:
On Oct 5, 2021 at 5:49:28 PM PDT, "gtr" <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps >>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any >>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
I managed to figure it out to my satisfaction. Ricoh's driver for networked >> use is limited to the printer, and I figure their hurry-up programmers didn't
do the scanner communications right. I've hooked up the USB line to the
printer and that works fine for for scanning and printing; so I'll go with >> that.
Still curious to know if CUPS is of any value. I noted an error in the console
from a few months back.
CUPS stands for "Common Unix Printing System"...
...and has nothing do with scanning.
In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps >> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any >> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
It has nothing to do with scanning AFAIK, that is usually handled by TWAIN or something similar.
On Oct 6, 2021 at 4:34:38 PM PDT, "Alan Baker" <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:
On 2021-10-06 3:42 p.m., Gerry wrote:
On Oct 5, 2021 at 5:49:28 PM PDT, "gtr" <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
use with moder versions of the mac OS?
I managed to figure it out to my satisfaction. Ricoh's driver for networked >>> use is limited to the printer, and I figure their hurry-up programmers didn't
do the scanner communications right. I've hooked up the USB line to the
printer and that works fine for for scanning and printing; so I'll go with >>> that.
Still curious to know if CUPS is of any value. I noted an error in the console
from a few months back.
CUPS stands for "Common Unix Printing System"...
...and has nothing do with scanning.
Right you are but that wasn't my question. My question: "Is CUPS of any use with moder versions of the mac OS?"
On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps >>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any >>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
I've been printing without using CUPS for years,
so it is apparently used for
printing in special circumstances. What would those be? Printing directly from
the unix CLI alone?
It has nothing to do with scanning AFAIK, that is usually handled by TWAIN or
something similar.
Twain has been dead for many years so it has nothing to do with current scanning processes.
On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps >>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any >>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
I've been printing without using CUPS for years,
It has nothing to do with scanning AFAIK, that is usually handled by TWAIN or
something similar.
Twain has been dead for many years so it has nothing to do with current scanning processes.
On 2021-10-06 9:01 p.m., Gerry wrote:
On Oct 6, 2021 at 4:34:38 PM PDT, "Alan Baker" <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> >> wrote:
On 2021-10-06 3:42 p.m., Gerry wrote:
On Oct 5, 2021 at 5:49:28 PM PDT, "gtr" <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
use with moder versions of the mac OS?
I managed to figure it out to my satisfaction. Ricoh's driver for networked
use is limited to the printer, and I figure their hurry-up programmers didn't
do the scanner communications right. I've hooked up the USB line to the >>>> printer and that works fine for for scanning and printing; so I'll go with >>>> that.
Still curious to know if CUPS is of any value. I noted an error in the console
from a few months back.
CUPS stands for "Common Unix Printing System"...
...and has nothing do with scanning.
Right you are but that wasn't my question. My question: "Is CUPS of any use >> with moder versions of the mac OS?"
And my question to you would be:
Have you done any checking AT ALL into this on your own.
In message <sjlrj1$nuo$1@dont-email.me> Gerry <address@domain.com> wrote:
On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
use with moder versions of the mac OS?
CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
I've been printing without using CUPS for years,
Not on macOS (née OS X) you haven't. You may not have realized it, but
the printing subsystem on MacOS is CUPS. It is also used in various
flavors of Linux.
It has nothing to do with scanning AFAIK, that is usually handled by TWAIN or
something similar.
Twain has been dead for many years so it has nothing to do with current
scanning processes.
Thus "or something similar".
On Oct 5, 2021 at 5:51:56 PM PDT, "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps >>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any >>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
which model ricoh, what error did it give and did you use the correct
driver, which should install automatically?
Ricoh Aficio SP C242SF.
"Scanner reported and error. An error occured while communicating with the scanner."
Nothing related to Ricoh ever installed automatically when I bought it some 10+ years ago, but I've updated drivers as systems changed. Currently driver 2.03 PS driver and ICA 1.02 for the scanner.
Printer works find and always has. Scanner won't respond.
On 2021-10-06 9:03 p.m., Gerry wrote:
On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
use with moder versions of the mac OS?
CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
I've been printing without using CUPS for years,
Not on Mac OS you haven't.
so it is apparently used for
printing in special circumstances. What would those be? Printing directly from
the unix CLI alone?
It has nothing to do with scanning AFAIK, that is usually handled by TWAIN or
something similar.
Twain has been dead for many years so it has nothing to do with current
scanning processes.
Given that you don't understand what CUPS has been doing for you, you'll understand if I doubt your expertise to declare that.
On 2021-10-06 9:03 p.m., Gerry wrote:
On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
use with moder versions of the mac OS?
CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
I've been printing without using CUPS for years,
Not on Mac OS you haven't.
so it is apparently used for
printing in special circumstances. What would those be? Printing directly from
the unix CLI alone?
It has nothing to do with scanning AFAIK, that is usually handled by TWAIN or
something similar.
Twain has been dead for many years so it has nothing to do with current
scanning processes.
Given that you don't understand what CUPS has been doing for you, you'll understand if I doubt your expertise to declare that.
On Oct 6, 2021 at 9:28:21 PM PDT, "Alan Baker" <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:
On 2021-10-06 9:03 p.m., Gerry wrote:
On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
use with moder versions of the mac OS?
CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
I've been printing without using CUPS for years,
Not on Mac OS you haven't.
Yes I have: I disabled it personally and directly in the terminal.
so it is apparently used for
printing in special circumstances. What would those be? Printing directly from
the unix CLI alone?
It has nothing to do with scanning AFAIK, that is usually handled by TWAIN or
something similar.
Twain has been dead for many years so it has nothing to do with current
scanning processes.
Given that you don't understand what CUPS has been doing for you, you'll
understand if I doubt your expertise to declare that.
Thank you for your complete lack of input.
CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
I've been printing without using CUPS for years,
Not on Mac OS you haven't.
From somewhere on the net I was supposed to look before asking anything here:
"So my advice would be to disable CUPS if you are not printing anything on a public network. One way to do this is by killing the CUPS Daemon from the terminal. Just type in ps ax | grep cupsd and then sudo kill -9 PID# (where PID# is the first number in the output of the ps command) and it's dead Jim!"
On Oct 6, 2021 at 9:28:21 PM PDT, "Alan Baker" <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:
On 2021-10-06 9:03 p.m., Gerry wrote:
On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
use with moder versions of the mac OS?
CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
I've been printing without using CUPS for years,
Not on Mac OS you haven't.
From somewhere on the net I was supposed to look before asking anything here:
"So my advice would be to disable CUPS if you are not printing anything on a public network. One way to do this is by killing the CUPS Daemon from the terminal. Just type in ps ax | grep cupsd and then sudo kill -9 PID# (where PID# is the first number in the output of the ps command) and it's dead Jim!"
There other other disables, one of which I used.
"So my advice would be to disable CUPS if you are not printing anything on a public network. One way to do this is by killing the CUPS Daemon from the terminal. Just type in ps ax | grep cupsd and then sudo kill -9 PID# (where PID# is the first number in the output of the ps command) and it's dead Jim!"
On Oct 6, 2021 at 9:28:21 PM PDT, "Alan Baker" <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:
On 2021-10-06 9:03 p.m., Gerry wrote:
On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
use with moder versions of the mac OS?
CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
I've been printing without using CUPS for years,
Not on Mac OS you haven't.
Yes I have: I disabled it personally and directly in the terminal.
Given that you don't understand what CUPS has been doing for you, you'll
understand if I doubt your expertise to declare that.
Thank you for your complete lack of input.
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any use with moder versions of the mac OS?
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any use with moder versions of the mac OS?
On Oct 6, 2021 at 9:28:21 PM PDT, "Alan Baker"<notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:
On 2021-10-06 9:03 p.m., Gerry wrote:
On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis"<g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
In message<sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of
any
use with moder versions of the mac OS?
CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
I've been printing without using CUPS for years,
Not on Mac OS you haven't.
Yes I have: I disabled it personally and directly in the terminal.
so it is apparently used for
printing in special circumstances. What would those be? Printing directly from
the unix CLI alone?
It has nothing to do with scanning AFAIK, that is usually handled by TWAIN or
something similar.
Twain has been dead for many years so it has nothing to do with current scanning processes.
Given that you don't understand what CUPS has been doing for you, you'll understand if I doubt your expertise to declare that.
Thank you for your complete lack of input.
On 2021 Oct 05, gtr wrote
(in article <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me>):
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps >> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any >> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
CUPS has nothing to do with scanning.
On 2021-10-08 01:36:34 +0000, Wolffan said:
On 2021 Oct 05, gtr wrote
(in article <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me>):
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It
keeps
returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS
of any
use with moder versions of the mac OS?
CUPS has nothing to do with scanning.
Nobody ever said it did ... as it says "wholly unrelated".
On 2021-10-07 7:12 p.m., Your Name wrote:
On 2021-10-08 01:36:34 +0000, Wolffan said:
On 2021 Oct 05, gtr wrote
(in article <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me>):
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It
keeps
returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS
of any
use with moder versions of the mac OS?
CUPS has nothing to do with scanning.
Nobody ever said it did ... as it says "wholly unrelated".
And then when you were told not only was it of use but essential to
printing on a Mac, your response was essentially "Nuh-uh! I know better
than all of you!"
On 2021 Oct 05, gtr wrote
(in article <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me>):
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps >> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any >> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
CUPS has nothing to do with scanning.
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any use with moder versions of the mac OS?
On 2021-10-05 20:49, gtr wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps >> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any >> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
I am not sure CUPS does "scanning". Its purpose is to take printabel
output and either send it to printer or use a "plug in" to convert the printable stuff into the format needed for that specific printer.
For instance, I have CUPS on my server with a plug in that converts the postscript to Digital,s SIXEL bitmaps to print onto a dot matrix label printer.
Perhaps newer versions handle incoming data, but to me CUPS has always
been mostly from server to printer in terms of data flow outside of
protocol (there is some back and forth for protocol and postcript commands).
As an example, my newer Canon printer is set to postscript only, and I
just put in a .PPD file on moth server and desktop and voila. For
scanning, the Canon "printer" uses totally separate protocols, such as
SMB or email to send documents back to a computer and doesn't use any printing protocols.
On Oct 7, 2021 at 11:07:10 PM PDT, "Alan Baker" <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:
On 2021-10-07 7:12 p.m., Your Name wrote:
On 2021-10-08 01:36:34 +0000, Wolffan said:
On 2021 Oct 05, gtr wrote
(in article <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me>):
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It >>>>> keeps
returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS >>>>> of any
use with moder versions of the mac OS?
CUPS has nothing to do with scanning.
Nobody ever said it did ... as it says "wholly unrelated".
And then when you were told not only was it of use but essential to
printing on a Mac, your response was essentially "Nuh-uh! I know better
than all of you!"
My "do your homework" homework indicated it di not. I disabled CUPS via terminal as a result of "do your homework" homework. When checked it continues
to say it is disabled, while I continue to print.
I never saied I new better than all of you, because I don't. That's why I'm here. But most of you find some petty jihad to keep your fire burning usually on a secondary topic or an incidental phrase having to do with the question. Again.
On 2021-10-06 05:35:41 +0000, Gerry said:
On Oct 5, 2021 at 5:51:56 PM PDT, "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
use with moder versions of the mac OS?
which model ricoh, what error did it give and did you use the correct
driver, which should install automatically?
Ricoh Aficio SP C242SF.
"Scanner reported and error. An error occured while communicating with the >> scanner."
Nothing related to Ricoh ever installed automatically when I bought it some >> 10+ years ago, but I've updated drivers as systems changed. Currently driver >> 2.03 PS driver and ICA 1.02 for the scanner.
Printer works find and always has. Scanner won't respond.
I know you've found a solution now, but this sounds the same to the
problem many of us HP users had a little while back - same problem and
error message.
In that case the problem wasn't with the devices nor the driver
software itself. It was reportedly caused by Apple (possibly at HP's
request) expiring the valdiation certificates for the old versions of
the drivers. Suddenly everything just stopped working. Installing
updated drivers helped some people either fully or partially (printing,
but still no scanning). For those of us with mainly older "outdated"
devices that HP couldn't be bothered updating drivers for, we had to
wait for Apple / HP to fix the problem at their end and re-establish
the validation. From memory it took a few days, but just as suddenly
started working again.
On Oct 6, 2021 at 10:43:34 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 2021-10-06 05:35:41 +0000, Gerry said:
On Oct 5, 2021 at 5:51:56 PM PDT, "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>
In article <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
use with moder versions of the mac OS?
which model ricoh, what error did it give and did you use the correct
driver, which should install automatically?
Ricoh Aficio SP C242SF.
"Scanner reported and error. An error occured while communicating with the >>> scanner."
Nothing related to Ricoh ever installed automatically when I bought it some >>> 10+ years ago, but I've updated drivers as systems changed. Currently driver
2.03 PS driver and ICA 1.02 for the scanner.
Printer works find and always has. Scanner won't respond.
I know you've found a solution now, but this sounds the same to the
problem many of us HP users had a little while back - same problem and
error message.
In that case the problem wasn't with the devices nor the driver
software itself. It was reportedly caused by Apple (possibly at HP's
request) expiring the valdiation certificates for the old versions of
the drivers. Suddenly everything just stopped working. Installing
updated drivers helped some people either fully or partially (printing,
but still no scanning). For those of us with mainly older "outdated"
devices that HP couldn't be bothered updating drivers for, we had to
wait for Apple / HP to fix the problem at their end and re-establish
the validation. From memory it took a few days, but just as suddenly
started working again.
I'm not sure if you've heard my solution regarding the scanner problem, though
this thread at least *intended* to be about something else.
After talking to Ricoh a couple of times--and getting uncommonly attendant service where they have always sucked--I eventually abandoned doing scanning through the TCP/IP driver. I hooked up a previously unused USB line to the printer and all my ills were cured. My wife continues to print, as do I through the TCP/IP pipe and scan comm goes through the USB.
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