• Re: Spotlight problem

    From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 17 10:50:52 2023
    On 2023-08-17 10:43, André G. Isaak wrote:
    Spotlight seems to be constantly reindexing my Time Machine drive. (i.e.
    the drive seems to be thrashing pretty much whenever the computer is
    awake and mdsync is the culprit). I'd thought of simply excluding that
    drive from spotlight, but apparently you can't do that with TM backup
    drives.

    This isn't slowing down my system, but I'm worried about unnecessary
    wear on the drive.

    Any suggestions for how to fix this? None of my other drives are
    affected by this issue.

    2020 iMac 5K/macOS 12.6.7

    André


    I honestly wouldn't worry about wear on the drive.

    You may hear the activity, but the heads ride on an air cushion.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEcuIElzYWFr?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 17 11:43:32 2023
    Spotlight seems to be constantly reindexing my Time Machine drive. (i.e.
    the drive seems to be thrashing pretty much whenever the computer is
    awake and mdsync is the culprit). I'd thought of simply excluding that
    drive from spotlight, but apparently you can't do that with TM backup
    drives.

    This isn't slowing down my system, but I'm worried about unnecessary
    wear on the drive.

    Any suggestions for how to fix this? None of my other drives are
    affected by this issue.

    2020 iMac 5K/macOS 12.6.7

    André

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 17 20:14:15 2023
    On 17/08/2023 18:43, André G. Isaak wrote:
    Spotlight seems to be constantly reindexing my Time Machine drive. (i.e.
    the drive seems to be thrashing pretty much whenever the computer is
    awake and mdsync is the culprit). I'd thought of simply excluding that
    drive from spotlight, but apparently you can't do that with TM backup
    drives.

    This isn't slowing down my system, but I'm worried about unnecessary
    wear on the drive.

    Any suggestions for how to fix this? None of my other drives are
    affected by this issue.

    2020 iMac 5K/macOS 12.6.7

    Perhaps you should simply update to macOS Ventura 13.5 and see if that situation continues.

    Any particular reason why you have not already done so?

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Thu Aug 17 21:00:22 2023
    On 17/08/2023 20:14, David Brooks wrote:
    On 17/08/2023 18:43, André G. Isaak wrote:
    Spotlight seems to be constantly reindexing my Time Machine drive.
    (i.e. the drive seems to be thrashing pretty much whenever the
    computer is awake and mdsync is the culprit). I'd thought of simply
    excluding that drive from spotlight, but apparently you can't do that
    with TM backup drives.

    This isn't slowing down my system, but I'm worried about unnecessary
    wear on the drive.

    Any suggestions for how to fix this? None of my other drives are
    affected by this issue.

    2020 iMac 5K/macOS 12.6.7

    Perhaps you should simply update to macOS Ventura 13.5 and see if that situation continues.

    Any particular reason why you have not already done so?

    *NOW* macOS Ventura 13.5.1

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 18 14:35:56 2023
    On 2023-08-17 17:43:32 +0000, André G. Isaak said:

    Spotlight seems to be constantly reindexing my Time Machine drive.
    (i.e. the drive seems to be thrashing pretty much whenever the computer
    is awake and mdsync is the culprit). I'd thought of simply excluding
    that drive from spotlight, but apparently you can't do that with TM
    backup drives.

    This isn't slowing down my system, but I'm worried about unnecessary
    wear on the drive.

    Any suggestions for how to fix this? None of my other drives are
    affected by this issue.

    2020 iMac 5K/macOS 12.6.7

    André

    On my older system I installed a shareware utility called Spotless from
    Fixamac Software to turn Spotlight off, and use the EasyFind app in its
    place.

    I don't think they're in business anymore but it looks like this
    utility works on later systems:

    https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/52566/spotoff

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEcuIElzYWFr?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 18 13:48:08 2023
    On 2023-08-18 13:35, super70s wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 17:43:32 +0000, André G. Isaak said:

    Spotlight seems to be constantly reindexing my Time Machine drive.
    (i.e. the drive seems to be thrashing pretty much whenever the
    computer is awake and mdsync is the culprit). I'd thought of simply
    excluding that drive from spotlight, but apparently you can't do that
    with TM backup drives.

    This isn't slowing down my system, but I'm worried about unnecessary
    wear on the drive.

    Any suggestions for how to fix this? None of my other drives are
    affected by this issue.

    2020 iMac 5K/macOS 12.6.7

    André

    On my older system I installed a shareware utility called Spotless from Fixamac Software to turn Spotlight off, and use the EasyFind app in its place.

    I might look into that. I already use EasyFind for most searching which
    is why I had no qualms about excluding the drive from Spotlight had that
    been a possibility.

    André

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 18 13:00:05 2023
    On 2023-08-18 12:35, super70s wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 17:43:32 +0000, André G. Isaak said:

    Spotlight seems to be constantly reindexing my Time Machine drive.
    (i.e. the drive seems to be thrashing pretty much whenever the
    computer is awake and mdsync is the culprit). I'd thought of simply
    excluding that drive from spotlight, but apparently you can't do that
    with TM backup drives.

    This isn't slowing down my system, but I'm worried about unnecessary
    wear on the drive.

    Any suggestions for how to fix this? None of my other drives are
    affected by this issue.

    2020 iMac 5K/macOS 12.6.7

    André

    On my older system I installed a shareware utility called Spotless from Fixamac Software to turn Spotlight off, and use the EasyFind app in its place.

    I don't think they're in business anymore but it looks like this utility works on later systems:

    https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/52566/spotoff


    I believe that Spotlight is an integral part of the Time Machine backup process.

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  • From Fishrrman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 18 22:32:08 2023
    On 8/17/23 1:43 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
    Spotlight seems to be constantly reindexing my Time Machine
    drive.

    My solution to spotlight, from the time it was first
    introduced by Apple some years ago, was to disable it
    permanently.

    I didn't want it messing with my drives.

    One of the very first things I do with a new Mac is go into
    terminal and disable it, still.

    If I want to search for something, I use either EasyFind or
    Find Any File.

    Too old to change now.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Fishrrman on Fri Aug 18 19:41:11 2023
    On 2023-08-18 19:32, Fishrrman wrote:
    On 8/17/23 1:43 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
    Spotlight seems to be constantly reindexing my Time Machine drive.

    My solution to spotlight, from the time it was first introduced by Apple
    some years ago, was to disable it permanently.

    I didn't want it messing with my drives.

    One of the very first things I do with a new Mac is go into terminal and disable it, still.

    If I want to search for something, I use either EasyFind or Find Any File.

    Too old to change now.


    I'm sorry, the the words "too old to change"...

    ...are just the worst form of coward bullshit.

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  • From Chris Schram@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Aug 19 03:53:54 2023
    On 2023-08-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-08-18 19:32, Fishrrman wrote:
    On 8/17/23 1:43 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
    Spotlight seems to be constantly reindexing my Time Machine drive.

    My solution to spotlight, from the time it was first introduced by Apple
    some years ago, was to disable it permanently.

    I didn't want it messing with my drives.

    One of the very first things I do with a new Mac is go into terminal and
    disable it, still.

    If I want to search for something, I use either EasyFind or Find Any File. >>
    Too old to change now.


    I'm sorry, the the words "too old to change"...

    ...are just the worst form of coward bullshit.

    Pardon me if I missed the logical remedy to the original poster's
    Spotlight issue:

    Disable Spotlight on the problematic drive;
    Run First Aid on the problematic drive;
    Restart;
    Re-enable Spotlight on that drive;
    Give it enough time to re-index the drive.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Fishrrman on Sat Aug 19 09:15:35 2023
    On 2023-08-18 22:32, Fishrrman wrote:
    On 8/17/23 1:43 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
    Spotlight seems to be constantly reindexing my Time Machine drive.

    My solution to spotlight, from the time it was first introduced by Apple
    some years ago, was to disable it permanently.

    I didn't want it messing with my drives.

    One of the very first things I do with a new Mac is go into terminal and disable it, still.

    If I want to search for something, I use either EasyFind or Find Any File.

    Spotlight works fine. Spends some time indexing from time to time is all.

    Saves tons of time searching for things, that is for sure.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sat Aug 19 11:58:26 2023
    On 2023-08-19 06:15, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2023-08-18 22:32, Fishrrman wrote:
    On 8/17/23 1:43 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
    Spotlight seems to be constantly reindexing my Time Machine drive.

    My solution to spotlight, from the time it was first introduced by
    Apple some years ago, was to disable it permanently.

    I didn't want it messing with my drives.

    One of the very first things I do with a new Mac is go into terminal
    and disable it, still.

    If I want to search for something, I use either EasyFind or Find Any
    File.

    Spotlight works fine.  Spends some time indexing from time to time is all.

    Saves tons of time searching for things, that is for sure.

    Ideally, it shouldn't spend long periods of time indexing, as the
    process is meant to happen in very small increments as individual files
    are added or modified.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Aug 21 02:31:51 2023
    On 2023-08-18 20:00:05 +0000, Alan said:

    On 2023-08-18 12:35, super70s wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 17:43:32 +0000, André G. Isaak said:

    Spotlight seems to be constantly reindexing my Time Machine drive.
    (i.e. the drive seems to be thrashing pretty much whenever the computer
    is awake and mdsync is the culprit). I'd thought of simply excluding
    that drive from spotlight, but apparently you can't do that with TM
    backup drives.

    This isn't slowing down my system, but I'm worried about unnecessary
    wear on the drive.

    Any suggestions for how to fix this? None of my other drives are
    affected by this issue.

    2020 iMac 5K/macOS 12.6.7

    André

    On my older system I installed a shareware utility called Spotless from
    Fixamac Software to turn Spotlight off, and use the EasyFind app in its
    place.

    I don't think they're in business anymore but it looks like this
    utility works on later systems:

    https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/52566/spotoff


    I believe that Spotlight is an integral part of the Time Machine backup process.

    Just because you apparently use Time Machine to back up doesn't mean
    everyone else does.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 22:34:54 2023
    On 2023-08-21 00:31, super70s wrote:
    On 2023-08-18 20:00:05 +0000, Alan said:

    On 2023-08-18 12:35, super70s wrote:
    On 2023-08-17 17:43:32 +0000, André G. Isaak said:

    Spotlight seems to be constantly reindexing my Time Machine drive.
    (i.e. the drive seems to be thrashing pretty much whenever the
    computer is awake and mdsync is the culprit). I'd thought of simply
    excluding that drive from spotlight, but apparently you can't do
    that with TM backup drives.

    This isn't slowing down my system, but I'm worried about unnecessary
    wear on the drive.

    Any suggestions for how to fix this? None of my other drives are
    affected by this issue.

    2020 iMac 5K/macOS 12.6.7

    André

    On my older system I installed a shareware utility called Spotless
    from Fixamac Software to turn Spotlight off, and use the EasyFind app
    in its place.

    I don't think they're in business anymore but it looks like this
    utility works on later systems:

    https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/52566/spotoff


    I believe that Spotlight is an integral part of the Time Machine
    backup process.

    Just because you apparently use Time Machine to back up doesn't mean
    everyone else does.


    The original poster was asking SPECIFICALLY about Spotlight and his
    "Time Machine drive".

    So why don't you just run along?

    :-)

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