• Replacement for iMac 2018

    From Doctor Strange@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 10:27:34 2023
    I have a 2018 27inch iMac.

    I surf, check emails and play the odd Apple Arcade game, so not high
    powered use!

    Its specs are as follows

    4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
    Radeon Pro 580 8 GB
    64 GB 2400 MHz DDR4

    I fancy a change and there are no M1/M2 27ich iMacs at the moment.

    So what do I change to?


    Will there be an M1/M2 27 inch in the near future??

    I think the 24 inch iMac will be a much smaller screen than I am used to
    and I think even the top end 24 inch iMac will be not much different
    than my current set up.

    So do I go for a Mac Mini with 10-Core CPU 16-Core GPU 26GB Unified Memory?

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Doctor Strange on Wed Feb 8 13:56:35 2023
    On 2023-02-08 05:27, Doctor Strange wrote:
    I have a 2018 27inch iMac.

    I surf, check emails and play the odd Apple Arcade game, so not high
    powered use!

    Its specs are as follows

    4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
    Radeon Pro 580 8 GB
    64 GB 2400 MHz DDR4

    I fancy a change and there are no M1/M2 27ich iMacs at the moment.

    So what do I change to?


    Will there be an M1/M2 27 inch in the near future??

    I think the 24 inch iMac will be a much smaller screen than I am used to
    and I think even the top end 24 inch iMac will be not much different
    than my current set up.

    So do I go for a Mac Mini with 10-Core CPU 16-Core GPU 26GB Unified Memory?

    Jump to [AAA] for the shorter version.

    My iMac is 27", 2012 model, i7 quad/HT with 24 GB of RAM.

    I do more than you seem to do with yours (though not arcade games and if
    there is a weak point here, it is the graphics capability).

    I would happily go to a 24" model as I have other screens lying around
    to make a double or triple setup as needs (wants) may be. I don't find
    that I "use" the 27" to its fullness in any case.

    [AAA]

    I haven't upgraded yet as I'm waiting for the next iMac which will be M2
    or M3 depending on which rumour you fancy most. That might not appear
    until the fall - esp. if it is an M3.

    Same rumour mills point to a 27" version as well.

    The Mac Mini M2 rolled out a couple weeks ago. It has a pretty strong
    spec, esp. the higher end models - where you also get more ports. Very tempting.

    So, I'm standing pat for now to see what the next iMac model will bring.
    Once it's announced I'll pour over the spec's of the various models
    and choose. I will certainly order whatever I choose on day 0.

    It is time!

    --
    “Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
    danger to American democracy.”
    - J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee

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  • From heron stone@21:1/5 to Doctor Strange on Wed Feb 8 15:12:26 2023
    On Feb 8, 2023, Doctor Strange wrote
    (in article<jEydnR4JGaqK5H7-nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>):

    I have a 2018 27inch iMac.

    I surf, check emails and play the odd Apple Arcade game, so not high
    powered use!

    Its specs are as follows

    4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
    Radeon Pro 580 8 GB
    64 GB 2400 MHz DDR4

    I fancy a change and there are no M1/M2 27ich iMacs at the moment.

    So what do I change to?

    Will there be an M1/M2 27 inch in the near future??

    I think the 24 inch iMac will be a much smaller screen than I am used to
    and I think even the top end 24 inch iMac will be not much different
    than my current set up.

    So do I go for a Mac Mini with 10-Core CPU 16-Core GPU 26GB Unified Memory?

    keep what you’ve got
    or get a refurbished 2020 iMac

    i can’t live with a 24” monitor

    so i got a 2020 iMac 27” and i’m quite happy with it
    and i added a 32” 4k second monitor

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  • From Fishrrman@21:1/5 to Doctor Strange on Thu Feb 9 13:28:46 2023
    On 2/8/23 5:27 AM, Doctor Strange wrote:
    Will there be an M1/M2 27 inch in the near future??

    That would be a 2017-design iMac you have. Nice Mac.

    There may, or may not be a 27" iMac released in the near
    future. Right now, no one knows.

    If there's to be one, I'm thinking it might be released
    around June, when the World Wide Development conference is on.

    Then again, Apple may be thinking about scaling back the
    iMac, content to release only the 24" model.

    If you had to replace what you have right now?
    I'd be thinking "Mini".
    Either the m2 "midrange" model, or possibly even the m2pro
    model.

    For a display?
    I don't care for the Studio display -- to much $$$.
    I'd be looking at a third party 4k 27" display, but of
    course that will "look like" 1080p when run in "HiDPI" mode.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Wade Garrett on Thu Feb 9 18:33:05 2023
    On 2023-02-09 18:22, Wade Garrett wrote:
    On 2/9/23 1:28 PM, Fishrrman wrote:
    On 2/8/23 5:27 AM, Doctor Strange wrote:
    Will there be an M1/M2 27 inch in the near future??

    That would be a 2017-design iMac you have. Nice Mac.

    There may, or may not be a 27" iMac released in the near future. Right
    now, no one knows.

    If there's to be one, I'm thinking it might be released around June,
    when the World Wide Development conference is on.

    Then again, Apple may be thinking about scaling back the iMac, content
    to release only the 24" model.

    If you had to replace what you have right now?
    I'd be thinking "Mini".
    Either the m2 "midrange" model, or possibly even the m2pro model.

    For a display?
    I don't care for the Studio display -- to much $$$.
    I'd be looking at a third party 4k 27" display, but of course that
    will "look like" 1080p when run in "HiDPI" mode.

    I was hankering for some new silicon to move beyond my 2019 21.5" 1-TB
    Fusion Drive iMac. So I sprung for a 512 M2 Mac mini at Costco and an
    on-sale 27" 4k Samsung monitor at another store and connected them by
    HDMI. Though I kept the Magic Mouse 2 and Magic KB from the iMac, I was
    still needing to add better speakers better than the vintage beige Dell
    pair I pulled out of the closet to temporarily hook up-- plus a
    webcam/mic combo.

    You can use your iPhone as a webcam for the mini if it comes to that.

    To make a long story short, I was disappointed in the new mini's overall performance. Though seek times were certainy quicker from the SSD,
    overall proicessing didn't seem all that much faster than my iMac for my day-to-day casual and not very demanding computer use.

    You'd need to do some intense task to tell ... such as a Handbrake
    conversion of a video, to get a good measure of it...

    And while the large sharp screen was quite nice-- I couldn't adjust
    monitor brightness using the F1 and F2 keys, the monitor lagged coming
    on from wake up, and making common monitor adjustments involved an
    auto-popup 6 line menu requiring a two-finger chicken dance with the
    five buttons mounted under the front edge of the screen to change
    anything. I tried a higher end monitor-- still no joy.

    Sounds like my work Mini (intel) experience ... which is worse as it's
    two smaller monitors and sometime one won't come on at all w/o some
    dancing around...

    Your experience kind of suggests to me that an iMac is probably what I
    really want to replace this one.

    --
    “Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
    danger to American democracy.”
    - J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee

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  • From Wade Garrett@21:1/5 to Fishrrman on Thu Feb 9 18:22:02 2023
    On 2/9/23 1:28 PM, Fishrrman wrote:
    On 2/8/23 5:27 AM, Doctor Strange wrote:
    Will there be an M1/M2 27 inch in the near future??

    That would be a 2017-design iMac you have. Nice Mac.

    There may, or may not be a 27" iMac released in the near future. Right
    now, no one knows.

    If there's to be one, I'm thinking it might be released around June,
    when the World Wide Development conference is on.

    Then again, Apple may be thinking about scaling back the iMac, content
    to release only the 24" model.

    If you had to replace what you have right now?
    I'd be thinking "Mini".
    Either the m2 "midrange" model, or possibly even the m2pro model.

    For a display?
    I don't care for the Studio display -- to much $$$.
    I'd be looking at a third party 4k 27" display, but of course that will
    "look like" 1080p when run in "HiDPI" mode.

    I was hankering for some new silicon to move beyond my 2019 21.5" 1-TB
    Fusion Drive iMac. So I sprung for a 512 M2 Mac mini at Costco and an
    on-sale 27" 4k Samsung monitor at another store and connected them by
    HDMI. Though I kept the Magic Mouse 2 and Magic KB from the iMac, I was
    still needing to add better speakers better than the vintage beige Dell
    pair I pulled out of the closet to temporarily hook up-- plus a
    webcam/mic combo.

    To make a long story short, I was disappointed in the new mini's overall performance. Though seek times were certainy quicker from the SSD,
    overall proicessing didn't seem all that much faster than my iMac for my day-to-day casual and not very demanding computer use.

    And while the large sharp screen was quite nice-- I couldn't adjust
    monitor brightness using the F1 and F2 keys, the monitor lagged coming
    on from wake up, and making common monitor adjustments involved an
    auto-popup 6 line menu requiring a two-finger chicken dance with the
    five buttons mounted under the front edge of the screen to change
    anything. I tried a higher end monitor-- still no joy.

    So I said the hell with it, double-wiped/reset the mini, packed up the
    monitor, hit the return counters-- and I'm back on my iMac again with
    over a grand's credit back on the old American Exoress card :-(

    --
    Landy: “Noah, she's one of us. You start down this path, where does it end?”
    Vosen: “It ends when we’ve won.”

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Fishrrman on Thu Feb 9 18:34:23 2023
    On 2023-02-09 13:28, Fishrrman wrote:
    On 2/8/23 5:27 AM, Doctor Strange wrote:
    Will there be an M1/M2 27 inch in the near future??

    That would be a 2017-design iMac you have. Nice Mac.

    There may, or may not be a 27" iMac released in the near future. Right
    now, no one knows.

    If there's to be one, I'm thinking it might be released around June,
    when the World Wide Development conference is on.

    Then again, Apple may be thinking about scaling back the iMac, content
    to release only the 24" model.

    If you had to replace what you have right now?
    I'd be thinking "Mini".
    Either the m2 "midrange" model, or possibly even the m2pro model.

    For a display?
    I don't care for the Studio display -- to much $$$.
    I'd be looking at a third party 4k 27" display, but of course that will
    "look like" 1080p when run in "HiDPI" mode.

    A good quality 3rd party 4K display on the mini should look ... like a
    4K display.

    --
    “Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
    danger to American democracy.”
    - J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Fri Feb 10 00:22:02 2023
    On 2023-02-09, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-02-09 13:28, Fishrrman wrote:
    On 2/8/23 5:27 AM, Doctor Strange wrote:
    Will there be an M1/M2 27 inch in the near future??

    That would be a 2017-design iMac you have. Nice Mac.

    There may, or may not be a 27" iMac released in the near future.
    Right now, no one knows.

    If there's to be one, I'm thinking it might be released around June,
    when the World Wide Development conference is on.

    Then again, Apple may be thinking about scaling back the iMac,
    content to release only the 24" model.

    If you had to replace what you have right now? I'd be thinking
    "Mini". Either the m2 "midrange" model, or possibly even the m2pro
    model.

    For a display? I don't care for the Studio display -- to much $$$.
    I'd be looking at a third party 4k 27" display, but of course that
    will "look like" 1080p when run in "HiDPI" mode.

    A good quality 3rd party 4K display on the mini should look ... like a
    4K display.

    A 5K display is a much better fit as the image will be sharper in
    general. I can say the 27" Apple Studio display is excellent in this
    regard - it puts the LG UltraFine 4K display to shame in terms of image
    and audio quality. I have them sitting side by side on my desk and the difference is stark. Plus it has a good integrated camera and behaves as
    you expect an Apple monitor to behave with regard to overall usability
    and display controls.

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Fri Feb 10 01:42:43 2023
    On 2023-02-10, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-02-09 19:22, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-02-09, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    A good quality 3rd party 4K display on the mini should look ... like
    a 4K display.

    A 5K display is a much better fit as the image will be sharper in
    general. I can say the 27" Apple Studio display is excellent in this
    regard - it puts the LG UltraFine 4K display to shame in terms of
    image and audio quality. I have them sitting side by side on my desk
    and the difference is stark. Plus it has a good integrated camera and
    behaves as you expect an Apple monitor to behave with regard to
    overall usability and display controls.

    Noted, but not where my sheckels are attracted.

    It's not for everyone. Just thought I would mention it. There aren't
    many good-quality 5K displays on the market, and the Studio display
    stands out in that regard.

    --
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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Thu Feb 9 20:17:04 2023
    On 2023-02-09 19:22, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-02-09, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-02-09 13:28, Fishrrman wrote:
    On 2/8/23 5:27 AM, Doctor Strange wrote:
    Will there be an M1/M2 27 inch in the near future??

    That would be a 2017-design iMac you have. Nice Mac.

    There may, or may not be a 27" iMac released in the near future.
    Right now, no one knows.

    If there's to be one, I'm thinking it might be released around June,
    when the World Wide Development conference is on.

    Then again, Apple may be thinking about scaling back the iMac,
    content to release only the 24" model.

    If you had to replace what you have right now? I'd be thinking
    "Mini". Either the m2 "midrange" model, or possibly even the m2pro
    model.

    For a display? I don't care for the Studio display -- to much $$$.
    I'd be looking at a third party 4k 27" display, but of course that
    will "look like" 1080p when run in "HiDPI" mode.

    A good quality 3rd party 4K display on the mini should look ... like a
    4K display.

    A 5K display is a much better fit as the image will be sharper in
    general. I can say the 27" Apple Studio display is excellent in this
    regard - it puts the LG UltraFine 4K display to shame in terms of image
    and audio quality. I have them sitting side by side on my desk and the difference is stark. Plus it has a good integrated camera and behaves as
    you expect an Apple monitor to behave with regard to overall usability
    and display controls.

    Noted, but not where my sheckels are attracted.

    --
    “Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
    danger to American democracy.”
    - J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to bitbucket@blackhole.com on Thu Feb 9 21:48:57 2023
    In article <%VhFL.567685$8_id.333503@fx09.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    A 5K display is a much better fit as the image will be sharper in
    general. I can say the 27" Apple Studio display is excellent in this
    regard - it puts the LG UltraFine 4K display to shame in terms of
    image and audio quality. I have them sitting side by side on my desk
    and the difference is stark. Plus it has a good integrated camera and
    behaves as you expect an Apple monitor to behave with regard to
    overall usability and display controls.

    Noted, but not where my sheckels are attracted.

    It's not for everyone. Just thought I would mention it. There aren't
    many good-quality 5K displays on the market, and the Studio display
    stands out in that regard.

    I have little doubt about its quality.

    the display is good, the camera not so much.

    it uses an a13 running a variant of ios, making it in effect, a really
    big iphone 11 or 9th gen ipad.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Thu Feb 9 21:24:59 2023
    On 2023-02-09 20:42, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-02-10, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-02-09 19:22, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-02-09, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    A good quality 3rd party 4K display on the mini should look ... like
    a 4K display.

    A 5K display is a much better fit as the image will be sharper in
    general. I can say the 27" Apple Studio display is excellent in this
    regard - it puts the LG UltraFine 4K display to shame in terms of
    image and audio quality. I have them sitting side by side on my desk
    and the difference is stark. Plus it has a good integrated camera and
    behaves as you expect an Apple monitor to behave with regard to
    overall usability and display controls.

    Noted, but not where my sheckels are attracted.

    It's not for everyone. Just thought I would mention it. There aren't
    many good-quality 5K displays on the market, and the Studio display
    stands out in that regard.

    I have little doubt about its quality.

    --
    “Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
    danger to American democracy.”
    - J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to nospam on Fri Feb 10 03:51:32 2023
    On 2023-02-10, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <%VhFL.567685$8_id.333503@fx09.iad>, Alan Browne
    <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    A 5K display is a much better fit as the image will be sharper in
    general. I can say the 27" Apple Studio display is excellent in this
    regard - it puts the LG UltraFine 4K display to shame in terms of
    image and audio quality. I have them sitting side by side on my desk
    and the difference is stark. Plus it has a good integrated camera and
    behaves as you expect an Apple monitor to behave with regard to
    overall usability and display controls.

    Noted, but not where my sheckels are attracted.

    It's not for everyone. Just thought I would mention it. There aren't
    many good-quality 5K displays on the market, and the Studio display
    stands out in that regard.

    I have little doubt about its quality.

    the display is good, the camera not so much.

    it uses an a13 running a variant of ios, making it in effect, a really
    big iphone 11 or 9th gen ipad.

    Yeah, the camera is a camera, but that's about all you can say about its quality, but it works well enough even in low light, and Center Stage is
    nice. The other aspects of the display are what put it above competing
    5K displays.

    --
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  • From =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Niels_J=F8rgen_Kruse@21:1/5 to Fishrrman on Fri Feb 10 12:34:41 2023
    Fishrrman <Fishrrman2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

    There may, or may not be a 27" iMac released in the near
    future. Right now, no one knows.

    If there's to be one, I'm thinking it might be released
    around June, when the World Wide Development conference is on.

    Then again, Apple may be thinking about scaling back the
    iMac, content to release only the 24" model.

    The discontinuation of the 27" iMac has revived the market for external displays with Mac suitable pixel density.

    Does Apple want to blow that up?

    --
    Mvh./Regards, Niels Jrgen Kruse, Vanlse, Denmark

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to nospam on Fri Feb 10 07:22:51 2023
    On 2023-02-09 21:48, nospam wrote:
    In article <%VhFL.567685$8_id.333503@fx09.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    A 5K display is a much better fit as the image will be sharper in
    general. I can say the 27" Apple Studio display is excellent in this >>>>> regard - it puts the LG UltraFine 4K display to shame in terms of
    image and audio quality. I have them sitting side by side on my desk >>>>> and the difference is stark. Plus it has a good integrated camera and >>>>> behaves as you expect an Apple monitor to behave with regard to
    overall usability and display controls.

    Noted, but not where my sheckels are attracted.

    It's not for everyone. Just thought I would mention it. There aren't
    many good-quality 5K displays on the market, and the Studio display
    stands out in that regard.

    I have little doubt about its quality.

    the display is good, the camera not so much.

    it uses an a13 running a variant of ios, making it in effect, a really
    big iphone 11 or 9th gen ipad.

    More than good enough for most people's Facetime (etc.) calls. Just add
    some lighting to make it work well.

    And you can always use a better camera - including later iPhones.

    --
    “Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
    danger to American democracy.”
    - J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 10 08:02:02 2023
    On 2023-02-10 06:34, Niels Jørgen Kruse wrote:
    Fishrrman <Fishrrman2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

    There may, or may not be a 27" iMac released in the near
    future. Right now, no one knows.

    If there's to be one, I'm thinking it might be released
    around June, when the World Wide Development conference is on.

    Then again, Apple may be thinking about scaling back the
    iMac, content to release only the 24" model.

    The discontinuation of the 27" iMac has revived the market for external displays with Mac suitable pixel density.

    Does Apple want to blow that up?

    A couple rumour mills believe a 27" iMac will be in the offing this year.

    Possibly as a "Pro". Possibly with an M3. If the latter, then likely
    late fall or early 2024.

    --
    “Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
    danger to American democracy.”
    - J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Fri Feb 10 16:05:57 2023
    On 2023-02-10, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-02-09 21:48, nospam wrote:
    In article <%VhFL.567685$8_id.333503@fx09.iad>, Alan Browne
    <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    A 5K display is a much better fit as the image will be sharper in
    general. I can say the 27" Apple Studio display is excellent in
    this regard - it puts the LG UltraFine 4K display to shame in
    terms of image and audio quality. I have them sitting side by
    side on my desk and the difference is stark. Plus it has a good
    integrated camera and behaves as you expect an Apple monitor to
    behave with regard to overall usability and display controls.

    Noted, but not where my sheckels are attracted.

    It's not for everyone. Just thought I would mention it. There
    aren't many good-quality 5K displays on the market, and the Studio
    display stands out in that regard.

    I have little doubt about its quality.

    the display is good, the camera not so much.

    it uses an a13 running a variant of ios, making it in effect, a
    really big iphone 11 or 9th gen ipad.

    More than good enough for most people's Facetime (etc.) calls. Just
    add some lighting to make it work well.

    Yes, I will say it's perfectly sufficient for video calls. It's just
    impressive in terms of resolution or quality compared to higher-end
    cameras.

    And you can always use a better camera - including later iPhones.

    Yep. I have a 1080p Logitech StreamCam that I used before getting the
    Studio display, but the lack of Center Stage and bizarre tendency to
    focus on the background rather than the subject make it less than ideal
    for me. So, I use the built-in camera instead.

    There are definitely alternatives to the Studio display, where you can
    mix and match your own display, microphone, speakers, and camera - some cheaper, some more expensive, and of varying quality - if that's your
    thing. And that's great - competition is good.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to heron stone on Sat Feb 11 01:20:54 2023
    On 2023-02-08 23:12:26 +0000, heron stone said:

    On Feb 8, 2023, Doctor Strange wrote
    (in article<jEydnR4JGaqK5H7-nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>):

    I have a 2018 27inch iMac.

    I surf, check emails and play the odd Apple Arcade game, so not high
    powered use!

    Its specs are as follows

    4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
    Radeon Pro 580 8 GB
    64 GB 2400 MHz DDR4

    I fancy a change and there are no M1/M2 27ich iMacs at the moment.

    So what do I change to?

    Will there be an M1/M2 27 inch in the near future??

    I think the 24 inch iMac will be a much smaller screen than I am used to
    and I think even the top end 24 inch iMac will be not much different
    than my current set up.

    So do I go for a Mac Mini with 10-Core CPU 16-Core GPU 26GB Unified Memory?

    keep what you’ve got
    or get a refurbished 2020 iMac

    i can’t live with a 24” monitor

    so i got a 2020 iMac 27” and i’m quite happy with it
    and i added a 32” 4k second monitor

    I'm probably in the severe minority but I don't like huge screens
    myself. One of the reasons I have an old A1225 20", even if it does max
    out with El Capitan. And even 20" seemed like overkill after all the
    years I spent staring at Apple's smaller CRT monitors.

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 11 08:33:26 2023
    Am 11.02.23 um 08:20 schrieb super70s:
    On 2023-02-08 23:12:26 +0000, heron stone said:
    i can’t live with a 24” monitor

    so i got a 2020 iMac 27” and i’m quite happy with it
    and i added a 32” 4k second monitor

    I'm probably in the severe minority but I don't like huge screens
    myself. One of the reasons I have an old A1225 20", even if it does max
    out with El Capitan. And even 20" seemed like overkill after all the
    years I spent staring at Apple's smaller CRT monitors.

    Two weeks ago I switched from my 15" MBA from 2019 to the new mini M2pro
    with a 4K 27" Dell screen because I wanted a more eye-friendly solution
    for my hour long stints at the computer. Does as expected.

    In addition I love the feeling of solution that allows a lot of windows
    open at the same time whithout having them on top of each other. I even
    can watch TV during my computer work (CNN,BBC, n-tv and BFM).

    The Intel-MBA is still a high-end laptop but it has physical limitations
    that cannot be overcome. These changes are due to the fact that I
    retired a while ago.


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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 11 07:57:56 2023
    On 2023-02-11 02:20, super70s wrote:
    On 2023-02-08 23:12:26 +0000, heron stone said:
    i can’t live with a 24” monitor

    so i got a 2020 iMac 27” and i’m quite happy with it
    and i added a 32” 4k second monitor

    I'm probably in the severe minority but I don't like huge screens
    myself. One of the reasons I have an old A1225 20", even if it does max
    out with El Capitan. And even 20" seemed like overkill after all the
    years I spent staring at Apple's smaller CRT monitors.

    Depends on use case. I have a 27" iMac and spend 95% of my time on the
    left 80% (it sits off centre on my desk because I have a 20" side
    monitor). So I've relegated some "info" apps to the right side (Notes, reminders and so on). The side monitor for things like e-mail and
    other secondary utilities.

    For graphics work or when working cross app (Word + Excel both open
    while working), then the large screen is very useful.

    That said, if the new iMac (M2|M3) is only available in 24" I'll be fine
    with it. OTOH, if it's 27", then I'll move a 27" Samsung monitor onto
    the desk to be the side monitor.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to super70s@super70s.invalid on Sat Feb 11 15:45:37 2023
    On 2023-02-11, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    I'm probably in the severe minority but I don't like huge screens
    myself. One of the reasons I have an old A1225 20", even if it does max
    out with El Capitan. And even 20" seemed like overkill after all the
    years I spent staring at Apple's smaller CRT monitors.

    I have a 5K Apple Studio display sitting next to a 4K LG UltraFine
    display and still find myself wanting more real estate. The Studio
    display is my main display and the LG display is secondary. I mostly use
    the secondary display for long-running things that I need to monitor
    like my security cameras, remote screen sharing sessions, and so on. On
    my main display, I typically have 3-4 virtual desktops running in
    Mission Control dedicated to software development, HD video editing and encoding, monitoring various servers, and so on.

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