• V14.8 released!

    From Robin Goodfellow@21:1/5 to Chris on Wed Sep 15 20:04:27 2021
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    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> asked
    227 outstanding CVE records for Outlook. Some from 1999 and many are
    "remote execution".
    https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=Outlook

    It's telling these apologists like Chris blame Microsoft for Apple bugs.

    Why does _nobody_ on the Outlook/Microsoft group blame Apple for their bugs?

    What's so _different_ about apologists that it's never Apple's fault that
    Apple hasn't tested huge swaths of their code in years (proven by Google).
    --
    Apologists are ignorant in that they believe what Apple paints on walls.

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  • From Alan Baker@21:1/5 to Robin Goodfellow on Wed Sep 15 14:37:38 2021
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    On 2021-09-15 1:04 p.m., Robin Goodfellow wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> asked
    227 outstanding CVE records for Outlook. Some from 1999 and many are
    "remote execution".
    https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=Outlook

    It's telling these apologists like Chris blame Microsoft for Apple bugs.

    How is pointing out that bugs are a common problem for many different
    tech companies blaming any of them?


    Why does _nobody_ on the Outlook/Microsoft group blame Apple for their bugs?

    Straw man.


    What's so _different_ about apologists that it's never Apple's fault that Apple hasn't tested huge swaths of their code in years (proven by Google).

    Literally no one has ever said that.

    And do you think Google is as forthcoming about its own bugs?

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Alan Baker on Thu Sep 16 09:33:46 2021
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    On 15/09/2021 22:37, Alan Baker wrote:
    On 2021-09-15 1:04 p.m., Robin Goodfellow wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> asked
    227 outstanding CVE records for Outlook. Some from 1999 and many are
    "remote execution".
    https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=Outlook

    It's telling these apologists like Chris blame Microsoft for Apple bugs.

    How is pointing out that bugs are a common problem for many different
    tech companies blaming any of them?

    Exactly!

    For reference:
    Apple Mail: 89
    https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=Apple+Mail

    Safari: 1302
    https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=Safari

    Internet Explorer: 2057 https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=Internet+Explorer

    Microsoft Edge: 650 https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=Microsoft+Edge

    Chrome: 2806
    https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=Chrome

    Firefox: 2740
    https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=Firefox

    Further evidence that bugs and security vulnerabilities are commonplace.
    Apple, Google, Microsoft, Mozilla, etc all have them in perfectly good
    (IE excepted ;)), useable and professional software.

    But the resident troll doesn't like facts. He prefers name-calling, bias
    and opinion.


    Why does _nobody_ on the Outlook/Microsoft group blame Apple for their
    bugs?

    Straw man.

    And ludicrous.


    What's so _different_ about apologists that it's never Apple's fault that
    Apple hasn't tested huge swaths of their code in years (proven by
    Google).

    Literally no one has ever said that.

    And do you think Google is as forthcoming about its own bugs?

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  • From Alan Baker@21:1/5 to Robin Goodfellow on Thu Sep 16 10:13:32 2021
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    On 2021-09-16 10:00 a.m., Robin Goodfellow wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> asked
    Further evidence that bugs and security vulnerabilities are commonplace.
    Apple, Google, Microsoft, Mozilla, etc all have them in perfectly good
    (IE excepted ;)), useable and professional software.

    Why is it that _only_ on the Apple newsgroups people blame everyone but
    Apple for the bugs that Apple themselves put into their own Apple code?

    You're lying every time you claim that has happened.

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  • From Robin Goodfellow@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu Sep 16 17:00:42 2021
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    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> asked
    Further evidence that bugs and security vulnerabilities are commonplace. Apple, Google, Microsoft, Mozilla, etc all have them in perfectly good
    (IE excepted ;)), useable and professional software.

    Why is it that _only_ on the Apple newsgroups people blame everyone but
    Apple for the bugs that Apple themselves put into their own Apple code?

    I know why... but do the apologists realize they prove me right every time? *Why do you think adult OS newsgroups _never_ blame Apple for their bugs?*

    HINT:
    a. Apple is actually no better than any other operating system;
    b. And, in fact, Apple is far worse in that iOS has _never_ been tested;
    c. But the apologists _believe_ (sans any facts) that Apple is better.

    Yet... and this is key... the apologists _know_ Apple spends _less_ in R&D
    than any other high tech company - where Apple spends it all in marketing!

    Apple only _markets_ itself as being more secure.
    And yet, it's not.

    Apple's sordid record on zero-day zero-click bugs speaks for itself.

    So _every_ time Apple is no better than anyone else, the apologists prove
    they _know_ this, by comparing Apple's sordid record to that of everyone.

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Robin Goodfellow on Thu Sep 16 18:16:33 2021
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    Robin Goodfellow <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> asked
    Further evidence that bugs and security vulnerabilities are commonplace.
    Apple, Google, Microsoft, Mozilla, etc all have them in perfectly good
    (IE excepted ;)), useable and professional software.

    Why is it that _only_ on the Apple newsgroups people blame everyone but
    Apple for the bugs that Apple themselves put into their own Apple code?

    Because the other newsgroups aren't polluted with people like you who lie
    and spoil for a fight.

    Actually they are, but only you have this Apple fixation.

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  • From Alan Baker@21:1/5 to Robin Goodfellow on Thu Sep 16 15:50:21 2021
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    On 2021-09-16 3:23 p.m., Robin Goodfellow wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> asked
    Because the other newsgroups aren't polluted with people like you who lie
    and spoil for a fight.

    Funny, I am on and have been on for decades all the adult operating system newsgroups, including Linux, Windows, and Android newsgroups.

    It's only the apologists on the child-like Apple newsgroups who constantly blame everyone but Apple for the software flaws in Apple operating systems.

    You're just lying.


    a. Nobody on the Windows newsgroup blames Apple for Microsoft flaws.

    A straw man, because nobody on Apple newsgroups does the converse.

    b. Nobody on the Android newsgroup blames Apple for Google's flaws.

    A straw man, because nobody on Apple newsgroups does the converse.

    c. Nobody on the Linux newsgroup blames Apple for Canonical's flaws.

    A straw man, because nobody on Apple newsgroups does the converse.

    It's only on the childish Apple newsgroup that you apologists constantly and repeatedly blame everyone but Apple for the many flaws in Apple's software.

    Pointing out that all technology companies have flaws is not blaming anyone.

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  • From Robin Goodfellow@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu Sep 16 22:23:55 2021
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    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> asked
    Because the other newsgroups aren't polluted with people like you who lie
    and spoil for a fight.

    Funny, I am on and have been on for decades all the adult operating system newsgroups, including Linux, Windows, and Android newsgroups.

    It's only the apologists on the child-like Apple newsgroups who constantly blame everyone but Apple for the software flaws in Apple operating systems.

    a. Nobody on the Windows newsgroup blames Apple for Microsoft flaws.
    b. Nobody on the Android newsgroup blames Apple for Google's flaws.
    c. Nobody on the Linux newsgroup blames Apple for Canonical's flaws.

    It's only on the childish Apple newsgroup that you apologists constantly and repeatedly blame everyone but Apple for the many flaws in Apple's software.
    --
    Apologists mirror Apple in blaming everyone but Apple for Apple's own flaws.

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Robin Goodfellow on Fri Sep 17 06:50:10 2021
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    Robin Goodfellow <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> asked
    Because the other newsgroups aren't polluted with people like you who lie
    and spoil for a fight.

    Funny, I am on and have been on for decades all the adult operating system newsgroups, including Linux, Windows, and Android newsgroups.

    I didn't realise operating systems came with age ratings. Which OS you
    choose to watch porn on is your choice.

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